Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Because Calcium and iron can bind with the thyroid hormone making it unusable by your body.... it's like putting the wrong puzzle pieces together, then you find the right one and the space is already jammed up by the wrong one... An advantage to taking natural thyroid sublingually is that you don't have to be so picky about eating or when you take your vitamins. Topper () On Tue, 24 May 2005 13:25:45 -0000 "mike27591" writes: On my Synthroid bottle of medicine it says you need to wait four hours to take any vitamins or minerals after taking the synthroid. Does anyone know why this is?Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 > On my Synthroid bottle of medicine it says you need to wait four hours > to take any vitamins or minerals after taking the synthroid. Does > anyone know why this is? > > Theresa Sorry for butting in here. I put my thyroid medicine between my cheek and gum and let it dissolve there. Doing it that way I can go ahead and eat or drink anything, like Topper said. I have been doing this since August of last year and it really does work. Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Does this mean any vitamins/supplements? I take one of my selenium pills after breakfast (about 90 mins after my pill). Should I wait? Carol From: The_Thyroid_Support_Group [mailto:The_Thyroid_Support_Group ] On Behalf Of topper2@... Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:09 AM To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Vitamins Question Because Calcium and iron can bind with the thyroid hormone making it unusable by your body.... it's like putting the wrong puzzle pieces together, then you find the right one and the space is already jammed up by the wrong one... An advantage to taking natural thyroid sublingually is that you don't have to be so picky about eating or when you take your vitamins. Topper () On Tue, 24 May 2005 13:25:45 -0000 " mike27591 " writes: On my Synthroid bottle of medicine it says you need to wait four hours to take any vitamins or minerals after taking the synthroid. Does anyone know why this is? Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 > On my Synthroid bottle of medicine it says you need to wait four hours > to take any vitamins or minerals after taking the synthroid. Does > anyone know why this is? I believe certain things like calcium can interefere with your medication being absorbed. Does anyone know how long you need to wait for this if on Armour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 No.. the selenium won't bind with the hormone... it's used during conversion and is a good thing.... It's mostly iron and Calcium.. there are a couple of other odd things here and there... but those are the two biggies and the two that are often taken in addition to multi-vitamins... Keep in mind, though.. that if you take Selenium and Vitamin C at the same time they have to be taken with food.. for whatever chemistry is involved (technical stuff involving amino acids and such) Vitamin C, which usually boost absorption for all kinds of stuff, will bind with Selenium unless they are taken separately, as in two different times of the day.. or taken with meals.... Good questions... some of these things us old timers take for granted and forget to talk about with the new folks.... Topper () On Tue, 24 May 2005 08:04:29 -0700 "Carol M. s" writes: Does this mean any vitamins/supplements? I take one of my selenium pills after breakfast (about 90 mins after my pill). Should I wait? Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Rule of thumb is four hours if you are swallowing.. if your are taking the natural sublingually, I've been waiting an hour after.... Since I NEED my natural dose before bed to sleep, I know that on hour wait is working... I do my iron and calcium supps at 9 pm with a snack... and then my bed time thyroid dose between 10 and 10:30 or so.. and sleep well... if I skip my dose of supps I don't sleep any deeper, if I skip my dose of natural, and supps, I don't sleep.... Topper () *the over sensitive system barometer person! hehehehe* On Tue, 24 May 2005 08:45:13 -0700 "J Sisemore" writes: > On my Synthroid bottle of medicine it says you need to wait four hours> to take any vitamins or minerals after taking the synthroid. Does> anyone know why this is?I believe certain things like calcium can interefere with your medication being absorbed. Does anyone know how long you need to wait for this if on Armour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Rule of thumb is four hours if you are swallowing.. Hmmm.... I have been waiting about 3 hours. I have a tiny pre-exercise snack about one hour after meds.. Then take my vitamins with breakfast. If I wait until lunch time, I forget the vitamins. If I take them on an empty stomach I get completely nauseated. I'll have to see how I can tweak that. How long does it take to dissolve sublingually? My one tablet is a 120mg, so it's pretty good sized. Does that alter your dose? Would that be giving me more of my dose than I might need that way? if your are taking the natural sublingually, I've been waiting an hour after.... Since I NEED my natural dose before bed to sleep, I know that on hour wait is working... I do my iron and calcium supps at 9 pm with a snack... and then my bed time thyroid dose between 10 and 10:30 or so.. and sleep well... if I skip my dose of supps I don't sleep any deeper, if I skip my dose of natural, and supps, I don't sleep.... Topper () *the over sensitive system barometer person! hehehehe* On Tue, 24 May 2005 08:45:13 -0700 "J Sisemore" writes: > On my Synthroid bottle of medicine it says you need to wait four hours> to take any vitamins or minerals after taking the synthroid. Does> anyone know why this is?I believe certain things like calcium can interefere with your medication being absorbed. Does anyone know how long you need to wait for this if on Armour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 It's hard to tell how much of a difference there is between swallowing natural and taking it sublingually. Swallowing it you can get as little as 25% of the med... and as much as 79%, these numbers are from the insert on one of my bottles, btw.... depending on stomach contents and the efficiency of your digestive system, taking it sublingually gives you close to 100%. If you are taking them sublingually... I also have 2 grain tabs... and tried a whole tab one time... it took FOREVER for it to dissolve, because of the coating on the tab. Breaking up the tab, either by splitting it into bits with your front teeth or with a pill splitter (I use a single edged razor blade for mine) and then tucking it under your tongue makes it dissolve much faster cuz it can dissolve from the inside out... I current take 1 adrenal glandular (they are VERY much like a thyroid glandular (Armour is thyroid glandular)) that is split into quarters and a quarter tab of my thyroid all at the same time... so four quarter tabs of about the same size.. and they are dissolved in about 20 to 25 minutes.. the little bit off sludge that is left at the end I just swish out with water and swallow. Taking the quarter tab doses of thyroid the rest of the day dissolve in about 15 minutes or so.... Once the pills are tucked under your tongue you can still sip liquids or suck on a hard candy or something... as long as you keep your tongue down over the thyroid pill bits. As the pill breaks down the hormone is absorbed into the blood stream via the millions of capillaries under the tongue without having to deal with food or anything in the stomach or intestines. Once in the blood stream it's still distributed throughout the body the same way if swallowed, it's just that more of it gets there. A huge advantage, to me, other than getting more of the med into me. I don't have to futz around trying to time meals around meds or meds around meals... a HUGE advantage when you consider I dose my thyroid 7 times a day and eat 5 to 7 mini meals a day... It's next to impossible to do both of those things, in that number, if you have to wait umpteen hours between doing each... I'll add, too, that I split my multi-vitamins and take part with every meal... Mine are caplets, so I split them into eights and take one with each mini meal and what ever is left over at the end of the day I take with my 9 pm supps..... (see and you only thought I was crazy !!! ) Topper () On Tue, 24 May 2005 09:19:42 -0700 "J Sisemore" writes: Rule of thumb is four hours if you are swallowing.. Hmmm.... I have been waiting about 3 hours. I have a tiny pre-exercise snack about one hour after meds.. Then take my vitamins with breakfast. If I wait until lunch time, I forget the vitamins. If I take them on an empty stomach I get completely nauseated. I'll have to see how I can tweak that. How long does it take to dissolve sublingually? My one tablet is a 120mg, so it's pretty good sized. Does that alter your dose? Would that be giving me more of my dose than I might need that way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 > It's hard to tell how much of a difference there is between swallowing > natural and taking it sublingually. Swallowing it you can get as little > as 25% of the med... and as much as 79%, these numbers are from the > insert on one of my bottles, btw.... depending on stomach contents and > the efficiency of your digestive system, taking it sublingually gives you > close to 100%. > > Is this also true for the Synthroid? Thanks Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Yes.. that's why we are always saying to take it on an empty stomach and at the same time of day (remember the synthetics must be swallowed because of that pesky sodium molecule).. that means that you'll have the best chance of the stomach condition being the same from one day's dose to the next... so even if the amount of med you get is closer to the 25 rather than the 79, or vice versa, the dosing that your body assimilates and receives will be as consistent from day to day as possible... then, by monitoring labs and or symptoms you can adjust the amount that you take to achieve the results that you want. Taking the meds with food in the stomach or different times during the day, even with the stomach empty, has the potential of making the dose the body receives less consistent from day to day. That's another reason that they can't just calculate your dose, too many variables. Keep in mind, thought, that Synthroid and it's generics, are all T4 only meds, T4 is the thyroid storage hormone.. needed to be stored in the tissues awaiting the body's need for active hormone and it's being converted.... so missing a dose, or being late, or whatever won't have a huge impact on you right away.... That's what makes it so easy to not be consistent with dosing, cause you won't notice a difference, most likely, right away.... but be inconsistent a LOT and over a few weeks time, changes become more noticeable. You don't have to get paranoid about things... just come up with a schedule that you can follow consistently and then do your best to stick to it.... your labs and symptoms will then allow you to adjust the amount that you are taking to end up with the amount that your body needs.... Sounds complicated, at first... but understanding how it works makes it easier to understand, and to follow. Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 13:07:51 -0000 "bsl0619" writes: > It's hard to tell how much of a difference there is between swallowing> natural and taking it sublingually. Swallowing it you can get as little> as 25% of the med... and as much as 79%, these numbers are from the> insert on one of my bottles, btw.... depending on stomach contents and> the efficiency of your digestive system, taking it sublingually gives you> close to 100%.> >Is this also true for the Synthroid?Thanks Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 I always take my Synthroid at 5:30 am (my cat gets me up) take a cup of coffee w/ me back to bed. I need to get up at 6 for work. I usually don't eat breakfast til 7:30. I started on synthroid on April 11. Doc started me on 75 mcg. I'm up to 125 now. I must say, the last couple of days, is the best I have felt in a very long time. I still have a little brain fog, but the energy level is about 85% back to normal. Caroltopper2@... wrote: Yes.. that's why we are always saying to take it on an empty stomach and at the same time of day (remember the synthetics must be swallowed because of that pesky sodium molecule).. that means that you'll have the best chance of the stomach condition being the same from one day's dose to the next... so even if the amount of med you get is closer to the 25 rather than the 79, or vice versa, the dosing that your body assimilates and receives will be as consistent from day to day as possible... then, by monitoring labs and or symptoms you can adjust the amount that you take to achieve the results that you want. Taking the meds with food in the stomach or different times during the day, even with the stomach empty, has the potential of making the dose the body receives less consistent from day to day. That's another reason that they can't just calculate your dose, too many variables. Keep in mind, thought, that Synthroid and it's generics, are all T4 only meds, T4 is the thyroid storage hormone.. needed to be stored in the tissues awaiting the body's need for active hormone and it's being converted.... so missing a dose, or being late, or whatever won't have a huge impact on you right away.... That's what makes it so easy to not be consistent with dosing, cause you won't notice a difference, most likely, right away.... but be inconsistent a LOT and over a few weeks time, changes become more noticeable. You don't have to get paranoid about things... just come up with a schedule that you can follow consistently and then do your best to stick to it.... your labs and symptoms will then allow you to adjust the amount that you are taking to end up with the amount that your body needs.... Sounds complicated, at first... but understanding how it works makes it easier to understand, and to follow. Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 13:07:51 -0000 "bsl0619" writes: > It's hard to tell how much of a difference there is between swallowing> natural and taking it sublingually. Swallowing it you can get as little> as 25% of the med... and as much as 79%, these numbers are from the> insert on one of my bottles, btw.... depending on stomach contents and> the efficiency of your digestive system, taking it sublingually gives you> close to 100%.> >Is this also true for the Synthroid?Thanks Carol__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 What does the sodium molecule do, if you let it dissolve vs. swallowing it.topper2@... wrote: Yes.. that's why we are always saying to take it on an empty stomach and at the same time of day (remember the synthetics must be swallowed because of that pesky sodium molecule).. that means that you'll have the best chance of the stomach condition being the same from one day's dose to the next... so even if the amount of med you get is closer to the 25 rather than the 79, or vice versa, the dosing that your body assimilates and receives will be as consistent from day to day as possible... then, by monitoring labs and or symptoms you can adjust the amount that you take to achieve the results that you want. Taking the meds with food in the stomach or different times during the day, even with the stomach empty, has the potential of making the dose the body receives less consistent from day to day. That's another reason that they can't just calculate your dose, too many variables. Keep in mind, thought, that Synthroid and it's generics, are all T4 only meds, T4 is the thyroid storage hormone.. needed to be stored in the tissues awaiting the body's need for active hormone and it's being converted.... so missing a dose, or being late, or whatever won't have a huge impact on you right away.... That's what makes it so easy to not be consistent with dosing, cause you won't notice a difference, most likely, right away.... but be inconsistent a LOT and over a few weeks time, changes become more noticeable. You don't have to get paranoid about things... just come up with a schedule that you can follow consistently and then do your best to stick to it.... your labs and symptoms will then allow you to adjust the amount that you are taking to end up with the amount that your body needs.... Sounds complicated, at first... but understanding how it works makes it easier to understand, and to follow. Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 13:07:51 -0000 "bsl0619" writes: > It's hard to tell how much of a difference there is between swallowing> natural and taking it sublingually. Swallowing it you can get as little> as 25% of the med... and as much as 79%, these numbers are from the> insert on one of my bottles, btw.... depending on stomach contents and> the efficiency of your digestive system, taking it sublingually gives you> close to 100%.> >Is this also true for the Synthroid?Thanks Carol__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 So you already have a pretty good routine.. although your adrenals would thank you TREMENDOUSLY if you could get off the caffeine.... it really stresses them out... How did your labs look, comparing the second to the first? Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 06:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Carol writes: I always take my Synthroid at 5:30 am (my cat gets me up) take a cup of coffee w/ me back to bed. I need to get up at 6 for work. I usually don't eat breakfast til 7:30. I started on synthroid on April 11. Doc started me on 75 mcg. I'm up to 125 now. I must say, the last couple of days, is the best I have felt in a very long time. I still have a little brain fog, but the energy level is about 85% back to normal. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 I only drink 2 cups in the am.... I have to go back June 13 to a new endo....really disliked the other one. I don't have my labs with me, but the first ones were better than the second time they were done. I increased my dosage myself. topper2@... wrote: So you already have a pretty good routine.. although your adrenals would thank you TREMENDOUSLY if you could get off the caffeine.... it really stresses them out... How did your labs look, comparing the second to the first? Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 06:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Carol writes: I always take my Synthroid at 5:30 am (my cat gets me up) take a cup of coffee w/ me back to bed. I need to get up at 6 for work. I usually don't eat breakfast til 7:30. I started on synthroid on April 11. Doc started me on 75 mcg. I'm up to 125 now. I must say, the last couple of days, is the best I have felt in a very long time. I still have a little brain fog, but the energy level is about 85% back to normal. Carol__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 I have to tell you, I really appreciate all the time that you take to answer these emails from people on a daily basis. There are so many questions people have, and for whatever reason, Doctors don't seem to find the time for patients these days. Whether it is from experience or just your opinion, thank you for taking YOUR time each day to answer us. Caroltopper2@... wrote: So you already have a pretty good routine.. although your adrenals would thank you TREMENDOUSLY if you could get off the caffeine.... it really stresses them out... How did your labs look, comparing the second to the first? Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 06:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Carol writes: I always take my Synthroid at 5:30 am (my cat gets me up) take a cup of coffee w/ me back to bed. I need to get up at 6 for work. I usually don't eat breakfast til 7:30. I started on synthroid on April 11. Doc started me on 75 mcg. I'm up to 125 now. I must say, the last couple of days, is the best I have felt in a very long time. I still have a little brain fog, but the energy level is about 85% back to normal. Carol__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Can you do Synthroid under the tongue or only Armour? Thanks Theresa > It's hard to tell how much of a difference there is between swallowing > natural and taking it sublingually. Swallowing it you can get as little > as 25% of the med... and as much as 79%, these numbers are from the > insert on one of my bottles, btw.... depending on stomach contents and > the efficiency of your digestive system, taking it sublingually gives you > close to 100%. > > If you are taking them sublingually... I also have 2 grain tabs... and > tried a whole tab one time... it took FOREVER for it to dissolve, because > of the coating on the tab. Breaking up the tab, either by splitting it > into bits with your front teeth or with a pill splitter (I use a single > edged razor blade for mine) and then tucking it under your tongue makes > it dissolve much faster cuz it can dissolve from the inside out... > > I current take 1 adrenal glandular (they are VERY much like a thyroid > glandular (Armour is thyroid glandular)) that is split into quarters and > a quarter tab of my thyroid all at the same time... so four quarter tabs > of about the same size.. and they are dissolved in about 20 to 25 > minutes.. the little bit off sludge that is left at the end I just swish > out with water and swallow. Taking the quarter tab doses of thyroid the > rest of the day dissolve in about 15 minutes or so.... > > Once the pills are tucked under your tongue you can still sip liquids or > suck on a hard candy or something... as long as you keep your tongue down > over the thyroid pill bits. > > As the pill breaks down the hormone is absorbed into the blood stream via > the millions of capillaries under the tongue without having to deal with > food or anything in the stomach or intestines. Once in the blood stream > it's still distributed throughout the body the same way if swallowed, > it's just that more of it gets there. > > A huge advantage, to me, other than getting more of the med into me. I > don't have to futz around trying to time meals around meds or meds around > meals... a HUGE advantage when you consider I dose my thyroid 7 times a > day and eat 5 to 7 mini meals a day... It's next to impossible to do both > of those things, in that number, if you have to wait umpteen hours > between doing each... > > I'll add, too, that I split my multi-vitamins and take part with every > meal... Mine are caplets, so I split them into eights and take one with > each mini meal and what ever is left over at the end of the day I take > with my 9 pm supps..... (see and you only thought I was crazy !!! ) > > Topper () > > On Tue, 24 May 2005 09:19:42 -0700 " J Sisemore " <KJfamily@a...> > writes: > > Rule of thumb is four hours if you are swallowing.. > > > Hmmm.... I have been waiting about 3 hours. I have a tiny pre- exercise > snack about one hour after meds.. Then take my vitamins with breakfast. > If I wait until lunch time, I forget the vitamins. If I take them on an > empty stomach I get completely nauseated. > > I'll have to see how I can tweak that. How long does it take to dissolve > sublingually? My one tablet is a 120mg, so it's pretty good sized. Does > that alter your dose? Would that be giving me more of my dose than I > might need that way? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 The sodium molecule is added during the manufacturing process to make the T4 more stable... if it is not removed (by the stomach acid) the T4 is not usable by your body.... It just gets filtered from the blood and passed from the body. Basically, it's like not taking it at all.... An empty stomach means that the stomach acid is at it's strongest and you're gonna be able to process more of the synthetic into usable T4. Here again is where mini meals are beneficial. By limiting how much food the body has to process at any one time it's able to do a better job, thus moving the food on through the digestive system more efficiently. Makes it less likely that food will be backed up in the system.... Another example of things that we can do to help our bodies with stuff they can't do as well as they used to do... It seems unfair, and I guess it is.... but the more 'automatic' things that you can help your body out with... the better it's gonna be able to do things that we can't help with... That's why I'm willing to deal with the multi-dosing that I do.. yeah, it's a pain in the butt..... but if it means that I can get a decent night's sleep, and not have pain ALL the time, and not need crutches to walk... and go poop every day and not be all bloated and crampy and gassy and miserable... hey... I'll deal with the multiple doses (I do natural, with a bit of synthetic, synthetic alone didn't work for me) Some of you guys are gonna laugh at this next statement.. but others will know EXACTLY what I mean..... you have no idea what an absolute joy it is to be able to poop (I'm not using the pretty term on purpose) every day until you've had cramps and bloating and pain for a week, or two or three at a time until you can finally pass it. You're body has to be able to clean out waste, solid and liquid, to be able to function, to be healthy.. to be alive.... you have to be able to do that regularly.... Doing all the 'silly' things I do, found out by trial and error, to find what works for me, is what helps my body to work better.... That's why it's important, if you're not happy with how you feel, how your body works, to figure out what you can do to help... then do it.... help your body... it's sure makes life a whole lot better. Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 06:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Carol writes: What does the sodium molecule do, if you let it dissolve vs. swallowing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Do you have Hashi's? Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 06:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Carol writes: I only drink 2 cups in the am.... I have to go back June 13 to a new endo....really disliked the other one. I don't have my labs with me, but the first ones were better than the second time they were done. I increased my dosage myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 awww shucks... thanks Carol..... I do it for all the folks that helped me to get my life back.... I learned about naturals in the newsgroups and then went from there.... and I have had this group for over two years now ... and just set up to keep on going for another two years..... (I'm so happy about this... the benefactor that donated the funding to set up the domain and hosting for our website just renewed for another two years, it's her contribution to help folks as a way of saying thanks for all the help she got in getting her life back and I'm still not allowed to say who she is.. BUT thankyou Benefactor for helping us to help others!!!!!) I do it because you guys all help me too.... I learn something new just about everyday.... and that helps me to get even better myself.... So it's a WIN for me too! *shy smile* Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 06:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Carol writes: I have to tell you, I really appreciate all the time that you take to answer these emails from people on a daily basis. There are so many questions people have, and for whatever reason, Doctors don't seem to find the time for patients these days. Whether it is from experience or just your opinion, thank you for taking YOUR time each day to answer us. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Only natural, like Armour and it's generics... synthetics, like Synthroid, Levoxyl, Levothroid, etc., must be swallowed. If you have a brand that I've not named.. look at your bottle.. if you see Thyroxine Sodium.. you have a synthetic which must be swallowed... T3 only meds, like Cytomel, are also made with Sodium... you'll see it on the bottle as well, Liothyronine Sodium Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 13:54:36 -0000 "mike27591" writes: Can you do Synthroid under the tongue or only Armour?ThanksTheresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 No, not that I am aware oftopper2@... wrote: Do you have Hashi's? Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 06:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Carol writes: I only drink 2 cups in the am.... I have to go back June 13 to a new endo....really disliked the other one. I don't have my labs with me, but the first ones were better than the second time they were done. I increased my dosage myself. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 What was your diagnosis, the reason for your going hypo... did they tell you? Check your old labs, if you have them.. see if they tested for antibodies... Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 07:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Carol writes: No, not that I am aware oftopper2@... wrote: Do you have Hashi's? Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 He didn't tell me, but I'll look when I get home. When he was asking me my symptoms, I told him, I was always so cold...his comment....its been a cold winter...sorry, I don't live outside..and I do have heat in my house, car and office. When I told him, I was putting on so much weight, he told me to go out and start exercising. I told him, before all this happened, I was running 5 miles a day. I was sleeping so much, I did stop running....he said, well there you go, you stopped, that's the weight issue solved! This endo kept me waiting for an hr. past the apt, so he could meet with the drug reps! Even before his stupid comments, I knew I wasn't going back there.topper2@... wrote: What was your diagnosis, the reason for your going hypo... did they tell you? Check your old labs, if you have them.. see if they tested for antibodies... Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 07:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Carol writes: No, not that I am aware oftopper2@... wrote: Do you have Hashi's? Topper ()__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 He's a jerk.... your the paying customer and he blew you off, scheduled appointment, to talk to sales reps.... does that tell you what his priorities are??? Find a new one.. and tell this one why he's fired... *quietly stepping off soap box* Topper () On Wed, 25 May 2005 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Carol writes: He didn't tell me, but I'll look when I get home. When he was asking me my symptoms, I told him, I was always so cold...his comment....its been a cold winter...sorry, I don't live outside..and I do have heat in my house, car and office. When I told him, I was putting on so much weight, he told me to go out and start exercising. I told him, before all this happened, I was running 5 miles a day. I was sleeping so much, I did stop running....he said, well there you go, you stopped, that's the weight issue solved! This endo kept me waiting for an hr. past the apt, so he could meet with the drug reps! Even before his stupid comments, I knew I wasn't going back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hi Theresa, Only Armour or natural Thryoid meds go under the tongue for sublingual dosing. Synthroid HAS to be swallowed on an empty stomach. Once swallowed at least an hour has to pass before any food or extra drink may be taken. Gossimer > > It's hard to tell how much of a difference there is between > swallowing > > natural and taking it sublingually. Swallowing it you can get as > little > > as 25% of the med... and as much as 79%, these numbers are from the > > insert on one of my bottles, btw.... depending on stomach contents > and > > the efficiency of your digestive system, taking it sublingually > gives you > > close to 100%. > > > > If you are taking them sublingually... I also have 2 grain tabs... > and > > tried a whole tab one time... it took FOREVER for it to dissolve, > because > > of the coating on the tab. Breaking up the tab, either by splitting > it > > into bits with your front teeth or with a pill splitter (I use a > single > > edged razor blade for mine) and then tucking it under your tongue > makes > > it dissolve much faster cuz it can dissolve from the inside out... > > > > I current take 1 adrenal glandular (they are VERY much like a > thyroid > > glandular (Armour is thyroid glandular)) that is split into > quarters and > > a quarter tab of my thyroid all at the same time... so four quarter > tabs > > of about the same size.. and they are dissolved in about 20 to 25 > > minutes.. the little bit off sludge that is left at the end I just > swish > > out with water and swallow. Taking the quarter tab doses of thyroid > the > > rest of the day dissolve in about 15 minutes or so.... > > > > Once the pills are tucked under your tongue you can still sip > liquids or > > suck on a hard candy or something... as long as you keep your > tongue down > > over the thyroid pill bits. > > > > As the pill breaks down the hormone is absorbed into the blood > stream via > > the millions of capillaries under the tongue without having to deal > with > > food or anything in the stomach or intestines. Once in the blood > stream > > it's still distributed throughout the body the same way if > swallowed, > > it's just that more of it gets there. > > > > A huge advantage, to me, other than getting more of the med into > me. I > > don't have to futz around trying to time meals around meds or meds > around > > meals... a HUGE advantage when you consider I dose my thyroid 7 > times a > > day and eat 5 to 7 mini meals a day... It's next to impossible to > do both > > of those things, in that number, if you have to wait umpteen hours > > between doing each... > > > > I'll add, too, that I split my multi-vitamins and take part with > every > > meal... Mine are caplets, so I split them into eights and take one > with > > each mini meal and what ever is left over at the end of the day I > take > > with my 9 pm supps..... (see and you only thought I was crazy !!! ) > > > > Topper () > > > > On Tue, 24 May 2005 09:19:42 -0700 " J Sisemore " <KJfamily@a...> > > writes: > > > > Rule of thumb is four hours if you are swallowing.. > > > > > > Hmmm.... I have been waiting about 3 hours. I have a tiny pre- > exercise > > snack about one hour after meds.. Then take my vitamins with > breakfast. > > If I wait until lunch time, I forget the vitamins. If I take them > on an > > empty stomach I get completely nauseated. > > > > I'll have to see how I can tweak that. How long does it take to > dissolve > > sublingually? My one tablet is a 120mg, so it's pretty good > sized. Does > > that alter your dose? Would that be giving me more of my dose than > I > > might need that way? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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