Re: what whith this millk thing???

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At 09:24 PM 10/26/99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: SISYANGI@...

>

>OK OK ive had enough I cant stand it anymore will someone Please tell me why

>the HE-- we cant drink nonfat milk skim milk??

>I drink it with my cereal and sometimes at dinner.

>I need all the calcium i can get I eat yogurt and nonfat cheese also and i

>was told this was fine as a matter a fact i haven't been getting enough

>calcium because my bones are not shiny and white according to the doctor

>when I got an X-ray of my foot today because i messed it up he said that the

>bones are deterating and then it throws the ligaments of line and they rib

>and tear eaiser And something to do with cartilage well now IM in a half

>cast on my foot

>so tell me why milk and ect is so bad for you ?

>actually now that i think about it when i was first POST they had me drink

>CBI and that was with milk also (( go figure))

Hiya Angi-

Who says you can't drink milk? Esp nonfat/skim milk? Unless you're lactose

intolerant, I'd say drink up It's a good source of calcium--and there's

even calcium-fortified skim milk available. Go for it. Tell them I said so.

Steve

RNY 8/31/98

Dr Reinhold (Hospital of St Raphael, New Haven, CT)

Down 168 lbs so far!!!! (Started at 405, now 237, shooting for 200)

Avoiding the fate of Eglon, King of Moab (Judges 3:12-25)

ICQ #13024360 http://www.alayyan.com/OSSG-NYC-METRO/Profiles/Steve

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milk..no matter WHAT fat content is SUGAR!...at least thats how your body

sees it..and uses it..it's just such a SIMPLE food to omit from your

diet..and..if you look at the most successful long term people on the

list...you'll find milk is one food they avoid like the plague...you can get

better calcium other than milk..oyster shell calcium is the best for your

body... why drown your body in all that sugar?...

De

Proximal RNY August 15, 1997

Beginning wt 308

Ending wt 114

height 5 ft 1 inch Age 45

194 pounds of ugly FAT gone forever

what whith this millk thing???

>From: SISYANGI@...

>

>OK OK ive had enough I cant stand it anymore will someone Please tell me

why

>the HE-- we cant drink nonfat milk skim milk??

>I drink it with my cereal and sometimes at dinner.

>I need all the calcium i can get I eat yogurt and nonfat cheese also and i

>was told this was fine as a matter a fact i haven't been getting enough

>calcium because my bones are not shiny and white according to the doctor

>when I got an X-ray of my foot today because i messed it up he said that

the

>bones are deterating and then it throws the ligaments of line and they rib

>and tear eaiser And something to do with cartilage well now IM in a half

>cast on my foot

>so tell me why milk and ect is so bad for you ?

>actually now that i think about it when i was first POST they had me drink

>CBI and that was with milk also (( go figure))

>hugies ~~

>

>Angi in VA.

>July 17, 1998, 475#s

>October 26 99 >204#s

>271#S gone forever!!

>

>>

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One of the problems with milk is that it contains a high amount of

carbohydrates. For cooking I use heavy cream which has no carbs. If yu have a

lactose problem try Lactaid chewables. I do and they work just fine. also Reddi

Whip is a great topping with few carbs.

If malabsorbtion is part of your post op life (with a distal RNY or other more

radical forms of wls) you must take vitamins to replace what you do not absorb.

Our surgeon has a nutritionist working with him who prescribes certain

compounded (ground up and easily digested) vitamins. I take 6 of these pills a

day and they contain about 30 different vitamins that are needed for wls

patients. I am 12 mos post op, have lost 200 pounds and all my blood work shows

normal levels of all the vitamins and minerals that I need. find a good

nutritionist who is experienced in treating wls patients and get on a vitamin

regimen asap.

BobA

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You are allowed milk. Some doctors want their patients to avoid all sugars

(including natural like fructose and lactose). However, most doctors say

that milk is a very good source of protein and should be used. If you can

stomach it (are not lactose intolerant) don't worry about it and go for it.

I use milk continuously for both protein and calcium.

Rasley

mailto:drasley@...

BTC, Columbus Ohio October 7th, 1998

Starting weight: 348 pounds

After surgery: Healthy, happy and wiser

> what whith this millk thing???

>

>

> From: SISYANGI@...

>

> OK OK ive had enough I cant stand it anymore will someone Please

> tell me why

> the HE-- we cant drink nonfat milk skim milk??

> I drink it with my cereal and sometimes at dinner.

> I need all the calcium i can get I eat yogurt and nonfat cheese

> also and i

> was told this was fine as a matter a fact i haven't been getting enough

> calcium because my bones are not shiny and white according to the doctor

> when I got an X-ray of my foot today because i messed it up he

> said that the

> bones are deterating and then it throws the ligaments of line

> and they rib

> and tear eaiser And something to do with cartilage well now IM

> in a half

> cast on my foot

> so tell me why milk and ect is so bad for you ?

> actually now that i think about it when i was first POST they had

> me drink

> CBI and that was with milk also (( go figure))

> hugies ~~

>

> Angi in VA.

> July 17, 1998, 475#s

> October 26 99 >204#s

> 271#S gone forever!!

>

> >

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RAltman813@... said:

>One of the problems with milk is that it contains a high amount

>of carbohydrates. For cooking I use heavy cream which has no carbs.

I know I am supposed to lurk (since I am pre-op til 11/01), but I wanted

to set this straight.

Heavy cream still has a significant number of carbs (about 7gr in 1

cup). The reason the carton may say 0 carbs or <1 carb is that is for a

SERVING SIZE OF 1 TABLESPOON. 1 TBSP has less than .5 gr of carb and the

USDA allows <.5 to be rounded to 0!

A good resource for checking these sorts of things is the USDA database

at

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

I'll return to my corner and try to lurk for another year! (please keep

me in your thoughts on Monday!

M. in San Diego

Open RNY w/Dr Callery

01 Nov 1999, BMI 48

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Still less carbs than milk and you don't have to use as much. Since I only

have about 40-50 grams of carbs a day I can afford the few I get in the

cream. I don't use much and not that often.

BobA

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Hey - thank you for the wonderful web site! nice one! by my

read, 1 cup of heavy cream has less than 3 grams of carbs... vs. 1 cup

of milk which has more than 12... I think thats a pretty big

difference. Good luck on Monday!!!

LMM wrote:

> Heavy cream still has a significant number of carbs (about 7gr in 1

> cup). The reason the carton may say 0 carbs or <1 carb is that is for a

> SERVING SIZE OF 1 TABLESPOON. 1 TBSP has less than .5 gr of carb and the

>

> me in your thoughts on Monday!

>

> M. in San Diego

> Open RNY w/Dr Callery

> 01 Nov 1999, BMI 48

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Thanks Steve your a sweetie:)