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Yes she has a IEP and we have tried to get an interputer for her for 4 yrs

now. But seeing how it has been such a long time i gave up and so did she,

cause she would have to start over and relearn everything. They dont want her

to loose her hearing aids so they say,

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Larua,

Does you daughter have an IEP or a 504 plan? She sounds like she needs more

support than she is getting. Why would she have to take her hearing aids to the

office every hour?

Worried

Oh its the first of the year and it has already started. My now 7th grader

brought home supply lists that the teacher " told " them and of course she is

hearing impaired and didnt understand now i have to go to the school and try

to figure out what she needs. Do these people at these school just not get it

SHE CAN NOT UNDERSTAND YOU . That is what i would like to scream at them. Its

hard enough being in 7th grade never the less being hoh. They also single her

out by makeing her take her hearing aids to the office every hour to me that

is so stupid she is 12 and has had hearing aids since she was 3 she knows

what she is doing . Anyway thanks for letting me vent.

Larua

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I know just how you feel. My son keeps bringing home stuff that lets me

know he is not aware of some stuff that is going on, and I wonder what

the transliterator he has in the classroom is for! And I'm talking about

the whole message being presented, not any extra " help " or anything that

causes a transliterator to step outside the role, which is important.

Then I begin to wonder how observant the teachers are. I know they have

a lot of kids, but gee! I just keep reminding my son to pay close

attention at all times, but he seems to be missing stuff, anyway. It's

frustrating to feel as if your child is missing out on stuff and not due

to any lack of capability on their part.

By the way, my younger son is ADHD. How does that work out with a deaf

child? What sorts of strategies do you use?

Thanks,

Darla

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:27:55 EDT Nmreddevil@... writes:

> Oh its the first of the year and it has already started. My now 7th

> grader

> brought home supply lists that the teacher " told " them and of course

> she is

> hearing impaired and didnt understand now i have to go to the school

> and try

> to figure out what she needs. Do these people at these school just

> not get it

> SHE CAN NOT UNDERSTAND YOU . That is what i would like to scream at

> them. Its

> hard enough being in 7th grade never the less being hoh. They also

> single her

> out by makeing her take her hearing aids to the office every hour to

> me that

> is so stupid she is 12 and has had hearing aids since she was 3 she

> knows

> what she is doing . Anyway thanks for letting me vent.

>

> Larua

> Mother of 11 hoh (adhd)

> Bobbie 12 hoh and 8

>

>

>

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They have to provide an interpreter if it is shown she needs one. I know

how you feel here, too, though, because we've had to fight every single

year since kindergarten for transliterators, and qualified ones, since we

have to specify that, as ridiculous as it may seem. The hearing aid

thing sounds silly on their part. I would tell them part of your goals

for your daughter, as any mother would have, are independence and

responsibility, and as such, you feel your daughter would benefit from

taking care of her own hearing aids. Also, that's a good argument for an

interpreter, because how can your child be fully independent if she

doesn't have equal access to all that is going on?

Darla

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:14:41 EDT Nmreddevil@... writes:

> Yes she has a IEP and we have tried to get an interputer for her for

> 4 yrs

> now. But seeing how it has been such a long time i gave up and so

> did she,

> cause she would have to start over and relearn everything. They dont

> want her

> to loose her hearing aids so they say,

>

>

>

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It sounds like you need to add some things to the IEP such as, a note taker, and

just how and when she is wearing her hearing aids. Is she taking them off after

every class or does she use an FM system in class and leaves the aids in the

office during this time? I am not quite clear on this. What is she using

during the time the aids are in the office?

Barb

Re: Worried

Yes she has a IEP and we have tried to get an interputer for her for 4 yrs

now. But seeing how it has been such a long time i gave up and so did she,

cause she would have to start over and relearn everything. They dont want her

to loose her hearing aids so they say,

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> Oh its the first of the year and it has already started. My now 7th grader

> brought home supply lists that the teacher " told " them and of course she is

> hearing impaired and didnt understand now i have to go to the school and try

> to figure out what she needs. Do these people at these school just not get it

Sounds like the teachers could use some training (and you can ask at an IEP team

meeting

that the teachers receive training for hearing loss basics-you should be able to

easily

prove it's needed to ensure FAPE). It also seems to me that you need to have the

IEP

specify just who is in charge of making sure all of the items in the IEP are

implemented.

This would include ensuring the teachers give your daughter a written copy of

all

instructions given in class verbally (Yes, you can put this in the IEP). Now,

you have one

person who you can make your complaints to. Also, document when a complaint is

made so if

there are too many, you can file a complaint with the state dept. of education.

> They also single her

> out by makeing her take her hearing aids to the office every hour to me that

> is so stupid she is 12 and has had hearing aids since she was 3 she knows

> what she is doing .

I don't think I've ever heard of this happening before. If it were me, I'd call

another

IEP meeting to address these issues. I would tell them this practice of making

your

daughter go to the office is discriminatory, not to mention the possible damage

it could

cause due to the stigmatism it's likely to attract. In fact, on the Texas IEP's

it has a

place to mention any negative effects anything on the IEP may have, and this

would be the

ideal place for it. If they insist on doing this, I would file a complaint with

the state

education agency, with a CC to whoever is in charge of your daughter's IEP

meeting. I'd

also add up all the time during the day this takes, and ask them, in an IEP

meeting, how

they intend to compensate for the education my child for has lost during this

practice. If

they claimed that it didn't happen during class time, but during breaks, I would

argue

that my child lost out on socialization practice during this time.

Is this actually written into the IEP that she has to do this?

Just when I think I've heard it all, some educrat proves me wrong.

Hugs,

Kay

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--- Nmreddevil@... wrote:

> Oh its the first of the year and it has already started. My now 7th grader

> brought home supply lists that the teacher " told " them

In a very local newspaper, a elementary principal wrote a letter advising

parents on how the handle the first-day-of-school jitters. He surpised me by

advocating that we refuse to buy the suggested items as that doesn't

consititute a free education and that's the law. I don't know think that would

fly well at the jr. high and high school levels.

and of course she is

> hearing impaired and didnt understand now i have to go to the school and try

> to figure out what she needs. Do these people at these school just not get it

> SHE CAN NOT UNDERSTAND YOU .

I'm not defending the schools here, but I've seen an enormous number of

parents, suggested supply lists from meet-the-teacher-night in hand, shaking

their heads in utter confusion in the school supply aisle in WalMart. This

isn't limited to special needs kids.

> Its

> hard enough being in 7th grade never the less being hoh. They also single her

> out by makeing her take her hearing aids to the office every hour to me that

> is so stupid she is 12 and has had hearing aids since she was 3 she knows

> what she is doing .

Wow! I can't imagine what reason they could possibly have for that! I'd say

her IEP needs reviewing.

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Re: external ear infections

>

> In a message dated 8/20/01 6:15:17 AM Central Daylight Time,

> dfisher57@... writes:

>

>

> > Suzette,

> > What is the Audie's name from ville?

> >

> > Donna

> >

>

> Her name is Jo Schuh, M.S., CCC-A. She is the Chief Pediatric

> Audiologist at the Nemours Children's Clinic. Her last name is pronounced

> like " shoe " . Her phone number is . You most likely will reach

a

> voice mail because she's usually with patients, but she's very good about

> getting back with you if you leave a message. You can learn more about

> Nemours at www.KidsHealth.org. Their team is truly gifted and they give

you

> such wonderful, personal service. I had to travel 2.5 hours to get there

when

> we started looking into a cochlear implant for . After my first

visit, I

> wondered why I hadn't done so before. After one look at the audiogram, I

> could clearly see that Jo noted and tested much more extensively than

> the audie we were using locally. I never went back to the other audie. If

you

> are near ville, look into going there. They are so wonderful with

> children.

>

> Suzette

>

>

>

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Oops. Sorry for the useless message sent two minutes ago - pushed the wrong

key. Anyway, I do sympathize with the frustration of teachers not being

aware of the need for visuals for such vital items as lists of supplies. Is

it possible to ask the teacher to assign a peer tutor? We have this in our

school for some students. The " tutor " helps the other student in class only

(so things such as lists would be copied for her) and sits near the person

being tutored. The benefit for the tutor is that he or she gets bonus marks

at the end of the semester (or term). Most kids who are peer tutors are

high achieving kids who will do anything for extra marks! They also like

helping someone else.

As to the problem of " centering " her out, I would encourage the teacher to

do this with, for example, other kids in the class who might be L.D. That's

what we do for some kids and they find it much easier to ask another student

that to always ask the teacher. By the way, we stress to the kids getting

assistance that they are helping the higher achieving students to get better

marks. That way, everyone wins!

Cheryl

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