Re: Advice needed re: Special ed kindergarten

[Guest guest]

Diane, which program are you looking at? I am presuming BOCES, and if so, I

would stick to your guns. It is a very good program.

Orla

[Guest guest]

Hello Diane

My son, , attends special ed kindergarten now. has a cochlear

implant. He has been implanted since August of 1998 when he was 19 mos.

is oral so we preferred to keep within our county school system plus

they have a great program for Deaf/HOH students. attended the D/HOH

pre school for 2 years, the kindergarten for 5 MOS and in February we moved

him to the Outreach kindergarten. It is a small class and very language

intense. Our plan is to repeat kindergarten at our home school next year in

regular classroom with aid of a soundfield FM. has had a great

experience. We put in the IEP that be in a small structured language

based environment. The makeup of the class was not important. Fortunately,

the kids in the class are all there for spech/language reasons..it works out

nice. Best wishes with whichever route you take. This is just our

experience and I am sure you will hear about many.

:)

Mom to , age 5 1/2

N24 8/98

bac men 5/97

HA 7/97-12/97

ASL, oral

[Guest guest]

Yes Orla

It is BOCES and I heard it is great. The two teachers are some of the best

in Long Island. I recall that is where you sent your child.

I don't think that I am going to give in this year. Kara has at least one

year overall communication delays and being in a TOD full day setting has

got to be the way to go.

I hope I am right that if the committee does not reach a concensious that I

have pendency and stay put applies. I will just keep delaying until this

time next year.

Thanks,

DIane

Re: Advice needed re: Special ed kindergarten

Diane, which program are you looking at? I am presuming BOCES, and if so, I

would stick to your guns. It is a very good program.

Orla

[Guest guest]

> I hope I am right that if the committee does not reach a concensious that

I

> have pendency and stay put applies. I will just keep delaying until this

> time next year.

I don't have time to do as large a search as I would like (I'd like to see

the OSEP memo), but that will have to wait till I have more time. I did find

this, however.

http://www.hodgsonruss.com/news.asp?lid=314

Kay

[Guest guest]

Every child's experience and performance with the implant is different.

The answers below are for our daughter, , who was born with a

profound hearing loss.

<<How old were the children when implanted?>>

was implanted in 1995 at 28 months old. She's now 9 years old.

<<Do they have speech like you and I? Can they have regular

conversations?>>

Absolutely. While is behind in vocabulary, her articulation and

voice tone is excellent. She comes home from school with slang that

she picks up from her peers (things like " Hel-LOH! " ). She can have

regular conversations, even with strangers. And she can use the

telephone with little problem, even without additional mechanical

assistance.

<<Do the children with CI's sign?>>

Some do, some don't. We used a little bit of sign in the early days,

but eventually Em just didn't need it.

<<When talking, can you tell they have a hearing loss or .. do they

sound deaf when they talk?>>

Em has a very slight lisp and a lingering problem with the leading " k "

sound (as in " cat " ). But the naive listener cannot tell she is deaf.

Our biggest challenges are vocabulary and comprehension. Em doesn't

have the language competence to function well in a mainstream class

right now. So we're looking for language-based alternatives for the

next few years, with the goal of returning to the mainstream when she's

better prepared. We're not necessarily looking for a D/HOH setting,

because " hearing " is not Em's issue .. it's LANGUAGE. A local private

school for children who are dyslexic provides the best match to Em's

needs .. intensive language, strong structure and repetition, small

class size, and a focus on study skills.

<<I know it's a lot but I would like to make sure we are making the

right decision.>>

Every child is different. Only you can make the best decision for your

child, and you will. Good luck!

Hewlings

father to , 9, profound loss, Esprit-22 8/95

Leah, 7, hearing

--- Fisher wrote:

I am just curious why has to repeat Kindergarten? & nbsp; & nbsp; I

am also curious<BR>

about all the CI children. & nbsp; If people don't mind I would like to

ask a few<BR>

question and make sure we are making the right decision. & nbsp; How old

were the<BR>

children when implanted? & nbsp; Do they have speech like you and

I? & nbsp; Can they have<BR>

conversations regular conversations? & nbsp; Do the children with CI's

sign? & nbsp; When<BR>

talking, can you tell they have a hearing loss or? & nbsp; Do they sound

deaf when<BR>

they talk? & nbsp; Thank you so much. & nbsp; I know it's a lot but I would

like to make<BR>

sure we are making the right decision.<BR>

Thank you,<BR>

Donna<BR>

Mother to ny 6, severe/profound<BR>

3, moderate<BR>

<BR>

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[Guest guest]

,

I am just curious why has to repeat Kindergarten? I am also curious

about all the CI children. If people don't mind I would like to ask a few

question and make sure we are making the right decision. How old were the

children when implanted? Do they have speech like you and I? Can they have

conversations regular conversations? Do the children with CI's sign? When

talking, can you tell they have a hearing loss or? Do they sound deaf when

they talk? Thank you so much. I know it's a lot but I would like to make

sure we are making the right decision.

Thank you,

Donna

Mother to ny 6, severe/profound

3, moderate

> Hello Diane

>

> My son, , attends special ed kindergarten now. has a cochlear

> implant. He has been implanted since August of 1998 when he was 19 mos.

> is oral so we preferred to keep within our county school system plus

> they have a great program for Deaf/HOH students. attended the D/HOH

> pre school for 2 years, the kindergarten for 5 MOS and in February we

moved

> him to the Outreach kindergarten. It is a small class and very language

> intense. Our plan is to repeat kindergarten at our home school next year

in

> regular classroom with aid of a soundfield FM. has had a great

> experience. We put in the IEP that be in a small structured

language

> based environment. The makeup of the class was not important.

Fortunately,

> the kids in the class are all there for spech/language reasons..it works

out

> nice. Best wishes with whichever route you take. This is just our

> experience and I am sure you will hear about many.

> :)

>

>

> Mom to , age 5 1/2

> N24 8/98

> bac men 5/97

> HA 7/97-12/97

> ASL, oral

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would love to read a little something from . That would give me a

flavor of where her expressive language is. Do you think she would write an

email to us?? That would be with no help from anyone, just her own words.

Our two deaf daughters both have serious language delays and their

letters make no sense most of the time.

Thanks much. Tish

[Guest guest]

,

I just wanted to thank you for your response!!

Donna

> Every child's experience and performance with the implant is different.

> The answers below are for our daughter, , who was born with a

> profound hearing loss.

>

> <<How old were the children when implanted?>>

>

> was implanted in 1995 at 28 months old. She's now 9 years old.

>

> <<Do they have speech like you and I? Can they have regular

> conversations?>>

>

> Absolutely. While is behind in vocabulary, her articulation and

> voice tone is excellent. She comes home from school with slang that

> she picks up from her peers (things like " Hel-LOH! " ). She can have

> regular conversations, even with strangers. And she can use the

> telephone with little problem, even without additional mechanical

> assistance.

>

> <<Do the children with CI's sign?>>

>

> Some do, some don't. We used a little bit of sign in the early days,

> but eventually Em just didn't need it.

>

> <<When talking, can you tell they have a hearing loss or .. do they

> sound deaf when they talk?>>

>

> Em has a very slight lisp and a lingering problem with the leading " k "

> sound (as in " cat " ). But the naive listener cannot tell she is deaf.

>

> Our biggest challenges are vocabulary and comprehension. Em doesn't

> have the language competence to function well in a mainstream class

> right now. So we're looking for language-based alternatives for the

> next few years, with the goal of returning to the mainstream when she's

> better prepared. We're not necessarily looking for a D/HOH setting,

> because " hearing " is not Em's issue .. it's LANGUAGE. A local private

> school for children who are dyslexic provides the best match to Em's

> needs .. intensive language, strong structure and repetition, small

> class size, and a focus on study skills.

>

> <<I know it's a lot but I would like to make sure we are making the

> right decision.>>

>

> Every child is different. Only you can make the best decision for your

> child, and you will. Good luck!

>

> Hewlings

> father to , 9, profound loss, Esprit-22 8/95

> Leah, 7, hearing

>

>

> --- Fisher wrote:

>

> I am just curious why has to repeat Kindergarten? & nbsp; & nbsp; I

> am also curious<BR>

> about all the CI children. & nbsp; If people don't mind I would like to

> ask a few<BR>

> question and make sure we are making the right decision. & nbsp; How old

> were the<BR>

> children when implanted? & nbsp; Do they have speech like you and

> I? & nbsp; Can they have<BR>

> conversations regular conversations? & nbsp; Do the children with CI's

> sign? & nbsp; When<BR>

> talking, can you tell they have a hearing loss or? & nbsp; Do they sound

> deaf when<BR>

> they talk? & nbsp; Thank you so much. & nbsp; I know it's a lot but I would

> like to make<BR>

> sure we are making the right decision.<BR>

> Thank you,<BR>

> Donna<BR>

> Mother to ny 6, severe/profound<BR>

> 3, moderate<BR>

> <BR>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/28/02 10:32:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

dfisher57@... writes:

> ,

> I am just curious why has to repeat Kindergarten?

we'd like to repeat for the language...he is a late birthday...December

so he is the same age as 2 kind classes...this prog will be full day in

mainstream class...for social issues and too find out where the breakdowns

will be

II am also curious

>

> about all the CI children. If people don't mind I would like to ask a few

> question and make sure we are making the right decision. How old were the

> children when implanted?

was 19 mos when implanted

Do they have speech like you and I?

yes...some letter probs but he is constantly improving

Can they have > conversations regular conversations?

sure can

Do the children with CI's sign?

has dropped the sign for the most part

When>

> talking, can you tell they have a hearing loss or? Do they sound deaf when

> they talk?

Most people don't know

Thank you so much. I know it's a lot but I would like to make

>

> sure we are making the right decision.

> Thank you,

>

You know your child best and please don't let anyone tell you otherwise...if

it feels right....

Mom to , age 5 1/2

N24 8/98

bac men 5/97

HA 7/97-12/97

ASL, oral

[Guest guest]

I will ask if she would like to compose a letter to the group.

Stay tuned.

Dave

--- Floyd and Tish Lavrenz wrote:

I would love to read a little something from . That would give me

a

flavor of where her expressive language is. Do you think she would

write an email to us?? That would be with no help from anyone, just her

own words. Our two deaf daughters both have serious language delays

and their letters make no sense most of the time. Thanks much. Tish

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