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I have had no problem w/milk or milk products....but I stayed away from milk

for 5 months after the operation....I didn't want to stop drinking

milk...having been raised on whole milk....and having switched down to

NonFat Milk....I didn't want to totally lose drinking milk....But I can't

down a glass of milk ...like I use too.....man ...cold...with ice

crystals....ooooooohhhh ...soooo.... good.

A. Dias

Age - 45 Height - 5' 5 "

Surgery September 28, 1998 - 340 lbs.

9 months 185 lbs.

Total Loss - 155 lbs. (Lost a Person)

Open RNY w/Gallbladder removed

Dr. H. Gladen; Fresno, California

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, At Mayo they said to drink at least three 8 oz. glasses of skim per

day, for the calcium and the protein. isen't t it weird the different things we

are told. I drink maybe 16 ozs with my espresso per day, and it does not effect

my loss. I am still losing at 16 months post op. I am down to 158 lbs at 5'7 and

I think I may make the ideal weight of 140. I never dreamed I would get down

this far. The best news is my diabetes is totally under control. I will enjoy my

latte's for now, since I may be intolerant in a couple years, but I just thought

I would pass along what I was told. By the way, you and your husband have done

wonderful, and I love your comments on why you enjoy life better now. Well said.

Jan C. 3-11-98 RNY

milk?

Milk is lactose. Lactose is sugar. Same as sucrose (white sugar). Or

fructose (fruit sugar). And all those other " oses " . It's a high calorie

liquid, so slithers right on past all the obstructions we paid so dearly to be

installed. I have a distal gastric bypass, so it makes me EXTREMELY sorry I

messed with it, so I'm safe from it. LOTS of bypasses (RNY) can't tolerate milk.

Since 80% of Caucasians are lactose intolerant by age 40 (age 18 if not

Caucasian), it isn't that hard to give up. Knowing that for us, it can cost us

up to 50 lbs. NOT lost, our doctor forbids it and classes it exactly the same as

sugar. We use high quality proteins that are lactose free, low in sugars, fats,

carbs, etc. So, we have no loss from it, except the sugar.

I know what you mean, though, as I was a 3 glass per meal drinker. I miss

hot chocolate chip cookies, straight out of the oven, chips a-meltin', with ice

cold milk that's been frozen, with ice crystals in it? Ahhh. But I've never

missed it bad enough to give up being a size 3!

I'm 5'1 " , 262 to 112, 10/94

He's 6'1 " , 285 to 175, 10/95

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...Milk actually isn't lactose..it has lactose in it...I don't drink

it..feel like I would need to sign my will before I downed a glass..you know

what I mean..of all the things that cause me pain..Milk is the BIGGEST

culprit..and..supprisingly, I've learned to exist without it (lol..that negative

re-enforcement can do wonders!) I can do cottage cheese though...a good source

of protein..and the lactose is removed from the milk product during the process

of making the cottage cheese

PS: you WOULD have to mention those evil chocolate chip cookies and a COLD glass

of milk..huh?...LOL..you know what?...since I CAN'T have the milk..I wouldn't

enjoy the chocolate chip cookies!

De

Proximal RNY August 15, 1997

Height 5 ft 1 inch

Age 45

Beginning weight 308

Weight now 114

(loss of 194 pounds!)

milk?

Milk is lactose. Lactose is sugar. Same as sucrose (white sugar). Or

fructose (fruit sugar). And all those other " oses " . It's a high calorie

liquid, so slithers right on past all the obstructions we paid so dearly to be

installed. I have a distal gastric bypass, so it makes me EXTREMELY sorry I

messed with it, so I'm safe from it. LOTS of bypasses (RNY) can't tolerate milk.

Since 80% of Caucasians are lactose intolerant by age 40 (age 18 if not

Caucasian), it isn't that hard to give up. Knowing that for us, it can cost us

up to 50 lbs. NOT lost, our doctor forbids it and classes it exactly the same as

sugar. We use high quality proteins that are lactose free, low in sugars, fats,

carbs, etc. So, we have no loss from it, except the sugar.

I know what you mean, though, as I was a 3 glass per meal drinker. I miss

hot chocolate chip cookies, straight out of the oven, chips a-meltin', with ice

cold milk that's been frozen, with ice crystals in it? Ahhh. But I've never

missed it bad enough to give up being a size 3!

I'm 5'1 " , 262 to 112, 10/94

He's 6'1 " , 285 to 175, 10/95

vitalady@...

www.vitalady.com

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can you drink milk? if not - why

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-- Re: Orange Juice???

Thanks for the encouragement,

Somedays I do wonder if I'll really be able to feel " normal " ever

again. When I try new foods.. My kids remind me all the time... " Are

you sure mom you can have that? " I hope to some day be close

to " normal! "

Thanks!

> > I know that since I'm only a few weeks post op that OJ and other

> > citric type juices/foods will cause pouch pain. I've really been

> > craving Orange juice lately...since surgery actually...and

wondered

> > if anyone knew when... if ever...I would be able to have OJ

again?

> > Through the years, it seems as though it has always been the only

> > thing that has been able to satisfy the occasional " thirsties " in

> the

> > middle of the night.

> > Thanks!

> >

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Originally my surgeon's plan said no milk ever, but recently they

have rethought that and modified it to include milk in 4oz amounts as

part of our fluid intake, but not with meals. The reason it was

eliminated originally was due to the high sugar content of milk.

However, there are other good benefits that made them change their

mind but limit the quantity drank at once so a person hopefully

doesn't dump on it. We are told to use skim milk only though.

D.

5'9 " – Age 42 – BMI 65.3

442/330/Anywhere under 250 lbs

-112 lbs as of June 7th – BMI 48.7

21 before surgery, 91 after

Open RNY-150 cm, 1/2 oz pouch - Feb 3, 2003

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hi tanya, some surgeons don't allow milk, since the lactose is a kind

of sugar. mine did, in 4 oz portions, & good, because i drink milk

every day. light soy milk saved my life as an early postie, it never

made me sick. it was bizarre, but some days i would get sick & some

days not, & i was eating the same exact menu...

lori h.

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I drink skim milk without any problems. Some have a lot of

difficulty with lactose intolerance following surgery though.

:) Caroline

> > > I know that since I'm only a few weeks post op that OJ and

other

> > > citric type juices/foods will cause pouch pain. I've really

been

> > > craving Orange juice lately...since surgery actually...and

> wondered

> > > if anyone knew when... if ever...I would be able to have OJ

> again?

> > > Through the years, it seems as though it has always been the

only

> > > thing that has been able to satisfy the occasional " thirsties "

in

> > the

> > > middle of the night.

> > > Thanks!

> > >

>

>

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<< can you drink milk? if not - why >>

I can drink milk without any problems... I love it!!! I drink Oberwiess Skim

and it saved me in the early days when I wanted a treat.. it was so creamy!

yummm

Natasha

lap rny 11/19/02

340/242

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