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August 9, 2002

Hi Cammie!

The general anesthesia part is what bothers me the

most. I was in and out of the hospital quite a bit as

a child, but have not " turned my breating over to

someone else " as you put it, in a very long time.

I've had to change and rearrange my eating habits

quite a bit in the last 2 years - and although being

on a liquid diet is definitely not on my favorite

things to do list - it's not something I'm not use to.

I've lost some weight in the past because of dental

work, but I've put most of the weight back on now that

I'm not going through any major dental work - apart

from my braces. My speech and my appearance have

changed along with my dental work also. And I've

suffered through depression, swelling, numbness and

drooling, so it's more the surgery itself that worries

me and less the aftereffects (although the

aftereffects are never easy)

Thanks for your reply

Love always,

Johanne

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I would not say it's nothing. But I would not say it's

difficult,

either. I think that in the hands of a skilled

surgeon, the procedure

itself is not complicated.

It does leave you weak -- I still am, and I had a

minimal jaw

advancement June 26. Of course, my age complicated

things a bit.

One reason it's not & quot;nothing & quot; is that it

requires general anesthesia.

Usually that's not a problem. But any time you turn

your brathing

over to someone else, it's something to think about.

And it has

aftereffects. You will probably go through a brief

period of

depression, for example.

Your diet will be altered for a couple of months. You

may lose some

weight. Your speech will probably be altered for a

matter of weeks,

if you are splinted. Your appearance may change a bit,

although I

cannot see that mine has. (Some other folks tell me

they can --

perhaps to try to validate the whole thing, I

dunno.)

The folks who require more extensive work, or work on

the upper jaw

as well, I think, have an, um, more challenging

adventure. Not to

mention those brave souls who take on the hip

graft.

Cammie

& gt;

& gt; Hi everyone!

& gt;

& gt; I just recently discovered your group and thought

I'd join to get a

& gt; little insight on my future orthognathic surgery.

& gt;

& gt; I'll be getting lower jaw surgery to correct an

open bite in about

18

& gt; months or so (my orthodontist, periodontist and

prosthodontist

still

& gt; need to torture me a little longer before the

surgery) My ortho

& gt; told me that lower jaw surgery should be a piece

of cake since

& gt; there's no pain and I'm alrady use to not being

able to eat

normally,

& gt; having my mouth swollen, drooling and so on. But

surgery is

surgery.

& gt; I've had gum surgery, but it's nothing compared

to actually having

& gt; jaw surgery (or so I've heard) After reading some

of the posts

here,

& gt; I'm realizing how lucky I am that they only need

to move my lower

jaw

& gt; a little forward. When I met the surgeon who'd be

performing my

& gt; surgery, he told me it was a simple surgery and

that nothing could

go

& gt; wrong - apart from my lower jaw staying numb for

the rest of my

& gt; life My ortho thinks he's one of the best

orthognathic surgeons

& gt; around and that I really don't have anything to

worry about. Am I

& gt; really worrying about nothing? None of my

dentists seem to

understand

& gt; why I'm even concerned in the first place because

of other dental

& gt; procedures I've been through, but jaw surgery

seems pretty major to

& gt; me.

& gt;

& gt; Well, I wish all of you who've recently been

through surgery a

speedy

& gt; recovery and all the luck in the world to those

of you who are

having

& gt; surgery again or for the first time.

& gt;

& gt; Love always,

& gt; Johanne

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August 10, 2002

Hi Ann!

My oral surgeon seems very skilled, but lacking in

bedside manner also. And I highly doubt he's God

I'm lucky though since my orthodontist, periodontist

and prosthodontist are all extremely helpful - and

very good at what they do also.

I enjoy talking to people who've already gone through

or are preparing to go through similar procedures as I

am, because no matter how good a dentist/doctor is,

he/she can't really understand what I'm going through

unless they went through something similar.

Love always,

Johanne

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& gt;

& gt; Hey Johanne

Your oral surgeon may be God, but stick with this

group for the real

low-down.....what to eat, what is normal, why

something feels weird,

etc. & nbsp;

You'll be fine. & nbsp; I too had a lower jaw

advancement, and the pain WAS

nearly non-existent. & nbsp; But my oral surgeon, though

highly acclaimed by

all dentists and orthos in town, had, as they say,

& quot;little bedside

manner. & quot; & nbsp; So I drudged along after surgery

thinking I was the weirdo

with odd symptoms and experiences....till I found this

group. & nbsp; Boy,

do they know a lot. & nbsp; And boy, do they care about

a fellow sufferer

more than my surgeon does!

Stick around....it's a great place to hang out.

Ann

& gt; Hi everyone!

& gt;

& gt; I just recently discovered your group and thought

I'd join to get a

& gt; little insight on my future orthognathic surgery.

& gt;

& gt; I'll be getting lower jaw surgery to correct an

open bite in about

18

& gt; months or so (my orthodontist, periodontist and

prosthodontist

still

& gt; need to torture me a little longer before the

surgery) My ortho

& gt; told me that lower jaw surgery should be a piece

of cake since

& gt; there's no pain and I'm alrady use to not being

able to eat

normally,

& gt; having my mouth swollen, drooling and so on. But

surgery is

surgery.

& gt; I've had gum surgery, but it's nothing compared

to actually having

& gt; jaw surgery (or so I've heard) After reading some

of the posts

here,

& gt; I'm realizing how lucky I am that they only need

to move my lower

jaw

& gt; a little forward. When I met the surgeon who'd be

performing my

& gt; surgery, he told me it was a simple surgery and

that nothing could

go

& gt; wrong - apart from my lower jaw staying numb for

the rest of my

& gt; life My ortho thinks he's one of the best

orthognathic surgeons

& gt; around and that I really don't have anything to

worry about. Am I

& gt; really worrying about nothing? None of my

dentists seem to

understand

& gt; why I'm even concerned in the first place because

of other dental

& gt; procedures I've been through, but jaw surgery

seems pretty major to

& gt; me.

& gt;

& gt; Well, I wish all of you who've recently been

through surgery a

speedy

& gt; recovery and all the luck in the world to those

of you who are

having

& gt; surgery again or for the first time.

& gt;

& gt; Love always,

& gt; Johanne

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August 10, 2002

Actually, that was my surgeon's formulation of what goes on.

You are wise to take it seriously -- but, hey -- if you were in an

auto accident, or developed heart disease, you'd be whisked into the

O.R. for anesthesia and surgery to save your life in a hurry. That

thought was consoling to me; if i needed lifesaving surgery, I

wouldn't stop for a second because of the anesthesia. I was also

fortunate in that I knew and liked my anesthesiologist beforehand,

and he is a man I was not at all uncomfortable in trusting with my

life.

I think the actual procedure, at least in the hands of a skilled and

experienced surgeon (ask your guy how many he does per month, or per

year) is a pretty simple surgery. I know my guy told me he could

teach me to do it! (an exaggeration, I know.) I was also pleased that

he is super careful to protect the nerve, and that even though one of

his partners assists with the surgery, he does all his own bone cuts,

just to be sure they are done exactly the way he wants them. In

short, he is a skilled and careful man who takes great pride in being

one of the very best at what he does, and his track record shows it.

I was also comforted, a bit later in the process, when I sat in his

waiting room and saw some of his earlier patients. I had several

friends who had had orthognathic surgery done either by him or one of

his partners, and all had results that pleased them. But when I saw a

rising high school senior who'd had both jaws worked on two weeks

before, and she was able to talk, and had no visible swelling nor

bruising, and no apparent pain, except from a weariness of mashed

potatoes, I knew somehow it would be all right.

He did not let me down.

Cammie

> & gt;

> & gt; Hi everyone!

> & gt;

> & gt; I just recently discovered your group and thought

> I'd join to get a

> & gt; little insight on my future orthognathic surgery.

>

> & gt;

> & gt; I'll be getting lower jaw surgery to correct an

> open bite in about

> 18

> & gt; months or so (my orthodontist, periodontist and

> prosthodontist

> still

> & gt; need to torture me a little longer before the

> surgery) My ortho

> & gt; told me that lower jaw surgery should be a piece

> of cake since

> & gt; there's no pain and I'm alrady use to not being

> able to eat

> normally,

> & gt; having my mouth swollen, drooling and so on. But

> surgery is

> surgery.

> & gt; I've had gum surgery, but it's nothing compared

> to actually having

> & gt; jaw surgery (or so I've heard) After reading some

> of the posts

> here,

> & gt; I'm realizing how lucky I am that they only need

> to move my lower

> jaw

> & gt; a little forward. When I met the surgeon who'd be

> performing my

> & gt; surgery, he told me it was a simple surgery and

> that nothing could

> go

> & gt; wrong - apart from my lower jaw staying numb for

> the rest of my

> & gt; life My ortho thinks he's one of the best

> orthognathic surgeons

> & gt; around and that I really don't have anything to

> worry about. Am I

> & gt; really worrying about nothing? None of my

> dentists seem to

> understand

> & gt; why I'm even concerned in the first place because

> of other dental

> & gt; procedures I've been through, but jaw surgery

> seems pretty major to

> & gt; me.

> & gt;

> & gt; Well, I wish all of you who've recently been

> through surgery a

> speedy

> & gt; recovery and all the luck in the world to those

> of you who are

> having

> & gt; surgery again or for the first time.

> & gt;

> & gt; Love always,

> & gt; Johanne

>

> </tt>

>

>

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April 27, 2005

A while ago we were all asked to tell a little about ourselves.

my nane is sarah, its 4 am and I can't sleep. so, heres a little

about me and my problems.I have diabetis, the big E (Emthysema)

moderate, thank goodness. heart attact in oct.'99, stents put in.

they failed in march 2000, had bypass. And there my troubles begin.

havn't felt right since.kept complaining to the drs. about being sooo

tired i could hardly move. had heart cath, a year ago... it was fine.

also a year ago my goiter started to grow.had a fna done it said ,it

was ok. the dr. tested my tsh 3 times in 1 week and it was different

each time. don't remember the #'s. soo, this year in march had ultra

sound on heart and out of 4 valves i have 3 leaking the mitral valve

is severe.the surgeon wanted things cheched out before he operrated.

went to family dr. and was talking to him .mentioned my thyroid .

that i thought it had grew again and didn't he think it should be

tested again?(had NOT) been tested this whole year!!He just took the

TSH and it said I was hyper-at0.331 went for ultra-sound then had

another fna on a 2. something NEW nodule. it was ok.last week went

for and uptake test and this is what it said; a large focal

photopenic defect is identified involving interpolar region of right

lobe of thyroid gland extending into lower pole. 6 hour uptake is

app.3.1%and 24 uptake is app. 5.7%normal ranges are app. 5-15% and 10-

30% respectively. NOW! heres one i dont understand! focal photopenic

defect involving right of thyroid gland. the findins are most likely

on the basis of non-functioning adenoma in view of patients biopsy of

3-17-05. the word ADENOMA scares me!! any way the test says i]m hypo-

Lordy=Lordy!! went monday and gave more blood . asked what he was

testing and it was all T's . I asked about the FREE's and the anti

bodies.SEE, I learned something on this site already!! hehegot home

from drs. office. nurse called about 45 mins. later and had to go

back to give more blood. he ran all the tests i asked for except the

anti-bodies. should hear tomarrow or now today, will post them then.

sorry this is so long. i got pretty windy up here at 4 am all by

myself.thank you for having this site its helping a lot.

Saeah Eaden

sr68@...

April 27, 2005

--- saeaden wrote:

>

> A while ago we were all asked to tell a little

> about ourselves.

> my nane is sarah, its 4 am and I can't sleep. so,

> heres a little

> about me and my problems.

***** snip *****

> went to family dr. and was talking to him .mentioned

> my thyroid .

> that i thought it had grew again and didn't he think

> it should be

> tested again?(had NOT) been tested this whole

> year!!He just took the

> TSH and it said I was hyper-at0.331 went for

> ultra-sound then had

> another fna on a 2. something NEW nodule.

***** snip *****

NOW! heres one i dont understand!

> focal photopenic

> defect involving right of thyroid gland. the findins

> are most likely

> on the basis of non-functioning adenoma in view of

> patients biopsy of

> 3-17-05. the word ADENOMA scares me!! any way the

> test says i]m hypo-

> Lordy=Lordy!! went monday and gave more blood .

> asked what he was

> testing and it was all T's . I asked about the

> FREE's and the anti

> bodies.SEE, I learned something on this site

> already!! hehegot home

> from drs. office. nurse called about 45 mins. later

> and had to go

> back to give more blood. he ran all the tests i

> asked for except the

> anti-bodies. should hear tomarrow or now today, will

> post them then.

> sorry this is so long. i got pretty windy up here at

> 4 am all by

> myself.thank you for having this site its helping a

> lot.

> Saeah Eaden

> sr68@...

{{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}} Hang in there. The folks

here are wonderful to help. We get quiet sometimes

and we get busy sometimes, so if you ask something and

don't get a response, it's usually because we've

missed it so just ask it again. We won't fuss or bite

if you ask again.

Now, having a TSH of .0331 is not necessarily hyper,

but you do need to have your antibodies tested. With

your TSH bouncing around you may have Hashimoto's

Thyroiditis. I don't have Hashi's, but and

both do along with others, and they are very

knowledgable and willing to share their knowledge. I

can't convince my doc to test my antibodies either,

but I don't believe I have Hashi's anyway, I believe

I'm hypo from birth since I was severely premature.

Oh well, I just snuck on before getting in the shower

for work, so let me run. I didn't miss you by much

last night though. I signed off the computer around

4:00 am EDT. Feel free to IM me or ask me to add you

to my friends list, regardless of whether you see me

online or not. I'm usually running invisible to avoid

the trolls.

Kathy >^,,^<

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April 28, 2005

You need the antibodies because it's going to help tell you what the cause

of your thyroid disease is, or will name the type of thyroid disease. This

will give specific expectations and a better treatment program. Why in the

name of heaven will these doctors not know this?! How would this doc even

think you were hyper if he didn't even run the thyroid hormones (the former

doc). OMG, I am soooooo tired of these doctors.

Introduction

>

> A while ago we were all asked to tell a little about ourselves.

> my nane is sarah, its 4 am and I can't sleep. so, heres a little

> about me and my problems.I have diabetis, the big E (Emthysema)

> moderate, thank goodness. heart attact in oct.'99, stents put in.

> they failed in march 2000, had bypass. And there my troubles begin.

> havn't felt right since.kept complaining to the drs. about being sooo

> tired i could hardly move. had heart cath, a year ago... it was fine.

> also a year ago my goiter started to grow.had a fna done it said ,it

> was ok. the dr. tested my tsh 3 times in 1 week and it was different

> each time. don't remember the #'s. soo, this year in march had ultra

> sound on heart and out of 4 valves i have 3 leaking the mitral valve

> is severe.the surgeon wanted things cheched out before he operrated.

> went to family dr. and was talking to him .mentioned my thyroid .

> that i thought it had grew again and didn't he think it should be

> tested again?(had NOT) been tested this whole year!!He just took the

> TSH and it said I was hyper-at0.331 went for ultra-sound then had

> another fna on a 2. something NEW nodule. it was ok.last week went

> for and uptake test and this is what it said; a large focal

> photopenic defect is identified involving interpolar region of right

> lobe of thyroid gland extending into lower pole. 6 hour uptake is

> app.3.1%and 24 uptake is app. 5.7%normal ranges are app. 5-15% and 10-

> 30% respectively. NOW! heres one i dont understand! focal photopenic

> defect involving right of thyroid gland. the findins are most likely

> on the basis of non-functioning adenoma in view of patients biopsy of

> 3-17-05. the word ADENOMA scares me!! any way the test says i]m hypo-

> Lordy=Lordy!! went monday and gave more blood . asked what he was

> testing and it was all T's . I asked about the FREE's and the anti

> bodies.SEE, I learned something on this site already!! hehegot home

> from drs. office. nurse called about 45 mins. later and had to go

> back to give more blood. he ran all the tests i asked for except the

> anti-bodies. should hear tomarrow or now today, will post them then.

> sorry this is so long. i got pretty windy up here at 4 am all by

> myself.thank you for having this site its helping a lot.

> Saeah Eaden

> sr68@...

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