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Barbara,

Do you think it has to do with processing time? We did some brain skills

exercises with Tyler that helped things become so automatic that he did not

have to take time to process the basics to do the math. I think the

professional tutoring that is similar is called PACE - I don't have time to

do anything about it now, but you could search PACE on the internet and see

if it seemed something that would benefit or not. I found with Tyler that

more of the same was counterproductive. I had to find something specific to

his needs.

Kim

> We are having a problem with standardized tests at school. gets great

> grades despite his deaf/blind status. However he tends to score lower on

> those pestky standardized tests. School is asking that he do afterschool

> tutoring for math. His scores are average only on those tests. We've done

> the tutoring before and he tends to be too tired and cranky to get much out of

> it... Even with modifications for testing we can't seem to get the scores up.

> Has anyone found tricks that work for them? Or anyone try test prep companys

> that do one on one to teach you how to test? Or just any suggestions?

> Thanks,

> Barbara,mom-11/6thgrade(CHARGE),Rosie15

>

>

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Kim-

Thanks for the info. I will check it out.

Barb

> Barb,

>

> This is the company that we bought the brain skills program from. Instead

> of doing the intensive 12 weeks with them, we did it at home with another

> family. We were the teacher for the opposite child, and then we did the

> parent role with our own child on the days off. It was a huge commitment,

> but I do think it helped Tyler. We stopped when my brother was in the

> motorcycle accident - I had wanted to go all the way through the special

> reading one too - at the time we referred to it as master the code.

>

> This might give you some other search headings besides learningrx; master

> the code and brain skills.

>

> http://www.learningrx.com/

>

> Kim

>

>

> On 9/16/05 11:04 AM, " barbzwires@... "

> wrote:

>

> >

> > Kim,

> > Thanks for the thoughts-I'm not finding PACE on line. I do agree that it's

> > probably a processing thing...

> > Barbara

> >

> >

> >> Barbara,

> >>

> >> Do you think it has to do with processing time? We did some brain skills

> >> exercises with Tyler that helped things become so automatic that he did not

> >> have to take time to process the basics to do the math. I think the

> >> professional tutoring that is similar is called PACE - I don't have time to

> >> do anything about it now, but you could search PACE on the internet and see

> >> if it seemed something that would benefit or not. I found with Tyler that

> >> more of the same was counterproductive. I had to find something specific

to

> >> his needs.

> >>

> >> Kim

> >>

> >>

> >> On 9/16/05 6:44 AM, " barbzwires@... "

wrote:

> >>

> >>> We are having a problem with standardized tests at school. gets

> >>> great

> >>> grades despite his deaf/blind status. However he tends to score lower on

> >>> those pestky standardized tests. School is asking that he do afterschool

> >>> tutoring for math. His scores are average only on those tests. We've

done

> >>> the tutoring before and he tends to be too tired and cranky to get much

out

> >>> of

> >>> it... Even with modifications for testing we can't seem to get the scores

> >>> up.

> >>> Has anyone found tricks that work for them? Or anyone try test prep

> >>> companys

> >>> that do one on one to teach you how to test? Or just any suggestions?

> >>> Thanks,

> >>> Barbara,mom-11/6thgrade(CHARGE),Rosie15

> >>>

> >>>

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I am realizing more and more that when kids with CHARGE do well in school,

expectations run high on the part of teachers, without the realization of

how difficult it is for the child to manage all that it takes to do well in

school. I would totally resist any tutoring efforts. It is not that you

would have low expectations of what he can achieve. It's a matter that

there is more to life than doing well on standardized tests, and is it worth

stressing out our kids over it?

Tim Hartshorne, father of

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Tim... omg thankyou! I couldnt have said that any better!!! I cant

really fully communicate my thoughts on this, im not sure why its like

i have so much to say i cant get anything out. But anyways you have

totaly got the right idea.

Chantelle

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Tim-

Thanks for the words of wisdom. I feel that if the visual and auditory

processing were easier for Nate- the testing would be too. However, I agree

that the tutoring they are offering @ school will NOT help him much.

Barbara-Nate's mom

> I am realizing more and more that when kids with CHARGE do well in school,

> expectations run high on the part of teachers, without the realization of

> how difficult it is for the child to manage all that it takes to do well in

> school. I would totally resist any tutoring efforts. It is not that you

> would have low expectations of what he can achieve. It's a matter that

> there is more to life than doing well on standardized tests, and is it worth

> stressing out our kids over it?

>

>

>

> Tim Hartshorne, father of

>

>

>

>

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Tim,

I have been holding on to Barb's email in order to comment myself on her

question. (Barb, are you reading?).

I so TOTALLY agree with Tim's thought. Nate is doing well in school and he is

( I don't think) not stressed and is feeling good about his successes (based on

a short discussion he and I had at the conference!) . The standardized test

scores are not the measure that will determine his overall successes--his

everyday school work, his motivation, and his continued interest in learning

will be the markers. In my opinion, if his school work starts to reflect a

different story, then THAT is a different question about intervention.

Just my two cents!!

pam

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Pam-

I'm reading-I agree with you and Tim. No tutoring!!!

Thanks,

Barb

> Tim,

> I have been holding on to Barb's email in order to comment myself on her

> question. (Barb, are you reading?).

>

> I so TOTALLY agree with Tim's thought. Nate is doing well in school and he

is

> ( I don't think) not stressed and is feeling good about his successes (based

on

> a short discussion he and I had at the conference!) . The standardized test

> scores are not the measure that will determine his overall successes--his

> everyday school work, his motivation, and his continued interest in learning

> will be the markers. In my opinion, if his school work starts to reflect a

> different story, then THAT is a different question about intervention.

>

> Just my two cents!!

>

> pam

>

>

>

>

>

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