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In a message dated 9/29/2000 9:37:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

warrenre@... writes:

<< So the weekend is finally here. I get to finally see the faces of people

who have become good friends via the wonder of the internet. If I hadn't

summoned up the courage to ask for help, I'd be missing out on a great time.

I'm so excited!!! Gotta go pack. Have a great weekend everyone. I'll see

you on Monday. Maybe someday I'll be packing to travel to meet a bunch of

you!!!!!!!

Ruth

>>

Ruth, it makes people feel good to be able to help. Sometimes I let people

feel really good. Think of me when everyone is running to the snack bar for

you.

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Ruth,

I am so proud of you. Since young childhood " bleacher fear " has always been

a part of my life. Since I was only self diagnosed last year I had never

related this fear to CMT.

Your post has made me vow never to miss another fun filled event again.

Thanks,

Trudy

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From: " Ruth Warren " <warrenre@...>

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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 6:00 AM

Subject: [] Letting others know and help

> Hi friends!

>

> I am so excited. This is a big weekend for me and I just wanted to share

> this with you. As we all know, " life " is not our CMT. It is everything

> else we love to do and the people we love. I am a HUGE Nascar fan, and am

a

> regular member of an internet bulletin board hosted by the owner of the

car

> & driver I cheer for - the McClure (MMM) Kodak #4 car.

>

> This weekend I will be meeting 40-50 of the people I have come to know as

> " friends " via my internet " home away from home " . We have a weekend full

of

> activities planned at the MMM shop, culminating with the race at

> sville Virginia on Sunday afternoon. We have been planning this

event

> for months and it is finally here! I leave in a few hours.

>

> How does this relate to CMT???? Well, when the event was first being

> planned via the bulletin board on the internet, I requested the group get

> seats at the race in a section that had aisles with railings.

> I did not explain why. Well, it turned out the best block of seats

> available was in the concrete bleacher section - no aisles, no railings.

> UGGHHHHH! I was very upset to think I would miss this great event because

I

> couldn't climb the stairs. Well, a very perceptive person read between

the

> lines and posted a message wanting to know what could be done to help.

And

> because she did, I got the courage to post a request to people I don't

know

> asking for assistance up the bleachers in order to attend. The response

has

> been great. Lots of big strong guys have chimed in and told me not to

worry

> - they'll take care of me.

>

> So the weekend is finally here. I get to finally see the faces of people

> who have become good friends via the wonder of the internet. If I hadn't

> summoned up the courage to ask for help, I'd be missing out on a great

time.

>

> I'm so excited!!! Gotta go pack. Have a great weekend everyone. I'll

see

> you on Monday. Maybe someday I'll be packing to travel to meet a bunch of

> you!!!!!!!

>

> Ruth

>

>

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Boy I think that would be great! Meeting others (all of you!) with CMT would

be fun, informative, and spiritually lifting. How can we organize our own

conference/get together/whatever you want to call it? I'd be the first to

sign up and travel there!

How about at Kat's place in Washington? I've never been out west. :)

Have a blast at the races, Ruth!!

Larry

PS I live near Chicago if anyone is interested in an impromptu Sunday get

together. Email me direct (LMinella@...) if your interested and I'll try

to set something up.

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In a message dated 9/30/00 3:43:43 AM, LMinella@... writes:

<< How about at Kat's place in Washington? I've never been out west. :) >>

Love to have y'all, and there are other CMTers in this area, but California

would be a better draw for people I bet. Many folks are leery about coming

out here to the toolies.

Kat

>^.^<

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Lamar here,

I would love to have a get-together, but would suggest a centralized location,

rather than one as far in one direction as you can go. This could either be the

central area of the US, or centralized as to the list members. An alternate

suggestion would be at one of the CMTA conferences. I am near the east coast

and CA is a long distance just as GA would be for people in the northwest. I

say split the difference.

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In a message dated 9/30/00 3:43:43 AM, LMinella@... writes:

<< How about at Kat's place in Washington? I've never been out west. :) >>

Love to have y'all, and there are other CMTers in this area, but California

would be a better draw for people I bet. Many folks are leery about coming

out here to the toolies.

Kat

>^.^<

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In a message dated 9/30/2000 9:34:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lls@...

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<< I am near the east coast and CA is a long distance just as GA would be for

people in the northwest. I say split the difference. >>

Air fare is cheaper if you fly to Vegas.

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Vegas is a few bucks cheaper than SanFrancisco or LA but very little difference.

Rooms in either place would probably be very high. I personally would prefer a

quiet secluded place to visit and relax to a place with hundreds shoving and

pushing. Another possibility is that this time of year you can get a Bahamas

cruise for about 250 a person double occupancy.

Lamar

Air fare is cheaper if you fly to Vegas.

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Recently, I arranged a trip for my boss to Las Vegas and his room was

$109 per night. I think it was the Mirage.

> Vegas is a few bucks cheaper than SanFrancisco or LA but very

little difference. Rooms in either place would probably be very

high. I personally would prefer a quiet secluded place to visit and

relax to a place with hundreds shoving and pushing. Another

possibility is that this time of year you can get a Bahamas cruise

for about 250 a person double occupancy.

> Lamar

>

> Air fare is cheaper if you fly to Vegas.

>

>

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Lamar here,

That's what I mean, the rooms are high. That's the price of a room here.

http://www.jekyllclub.com/ off season. You can get good rooms in my area, in a

convention center, for around 40 a night and the highest are around 65. When I

went to the CMTA conference in Ft Lauderdale FL there were CMT'ers sleeping in

their vans because they could not pay the 130 a night rooms. I stayed in a

Day's Inn about a mile away for under 50.00 and let several shower in my room

that were sleeping in cars. It was a great conference, but in a resort area at

the peak season. That was my main complaint. It could have been held elsewhere

for less than half the cost. It might not matter for the CMTA officials that

are going on an expense account, but does for many that are living on a limited

income due to CMT. Remember that people without a partner usually pay as much

or nearly as much for a room as a couple or family.

Personally, if I go to a CMT conference I go to learn and not party. If I went

to a meeting of CMT'ers I would want to meet and talk with them--not go to

shows, gamble, or see the sites. I may be unique in this, but going to a place

with shoulder to shoulder crowds, constantly bumping me, or to a beach to sit a

hundred yards away and watch others walk on it is not my idea of fun. Most

CMT'ers I have know would have a problem with crowds or beaches, etc. (even if

they could afford it).

This is just MY opinion, and any of you can plan what you want. A central

location either geographically or demographically would be fair to all and could

well be less expensive to most.

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From: cmontana@...

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Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 02:18 PM

Subject: [] Re: Letting others know and help

Recently, I arranged a trip for my boss to Las Vegas and his room was

$109 per night. I think it was the Mirage.

> Vegas is a few bucks cheaper than SanFrancisco or LA but very

little difference. Rooms in either place would probably be very

high. I personally would prefer a quiet secluded place to visit and

relax to a place with hundreds shoving and pushing. Another

possibility is that this time of year you can get a Bahamas cruise

for about 250 a person double occupancy.

> Lamar

>

> Air fare is cheaper if you fly to Vegas.

>

>

>

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In a message dated 01/10/00 08:53:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lls@...

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<< Vegas is a few bucks cheaper than SanFrancisco or LA but very little

difference. Rooms in either place would probably be very high. I personally

would prefer a quiet secluded place to visit and relax to a place with

hundreds shoving and pushing. Another possibility is that this time of year

you can get a Bahamas cruise for about 250 a person double occupancy.

Lamar

Air fare is cheaper if you fly to Vegas.

>>

You can get hotels in Vegas during the week for $35 and up. Where ever we go

I have a nice website somewhere that has a trip planner on it.

jenny

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I agree. I'd shy away from the high priced areas as well. Plus I would

strongly consider driving my family (we have a camper so we could camp and

make a vacation of it) if it were centrally located.

Larry

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! You are so funny! I love your sense of humor.

Ummm, no food or snack for me when I'm at an event like this - it only means

more trips up and down the bleachers to go to the bathroom! I'll do

anything to avoid those steps, even go without food and water. ;)

Ruth

>Ruth, it makes people feel good to be able to help. Sometimes I let people

>feel really good. Think of me when everyone is running to the snack bar for

>you.

>

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A more central location would be great for a get together.Then I might

beable to attend.I live in western PA and can't afford to much for travel or

hotel expense.

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>Lamar here,

>

>That's what I mean, the rooms are high. That's the price of a room here.

>http://www.jekyllclub.com/ off season. You can get good rooms in my area,

>in a convention center, for around 40 a night and the highest are around

>65. When I went to the CMTA conference in Ft Lauderdale FL there were

>CMT'ers sleeping in their vans because they could not pay the 130 a night

>rooms. I stayed in a Day's Inn about a mile away for under 50.00 and let

>several shower in my room that were sleeping in cars. It was a great

>conference, but in a resort area at the peak season. That was my main

>complaint. It could have been held elsewhere for less than half the cost.

>It might not matter for the CMTA officials that are going on an expense

>account, but does for many that are living on a limited income due to CMT.

>Remember that people without a partner usually pay as much or nearly as

>much for a room as a couple or family.

>

>Personally, if I go to a CMT conference I go to learn and not party. If I

>went to a meeting of CMT'ers I would want to meet and talk with them--not

>go to shows, gamble, or see the sites. I may be unique in this, but going

>to a place with shoulder to shoulder crowds, constantly bumping me, or to a

>beach to sit a hundred yards away and watch others walk on it is not my

>idea of fun. Most CMT'ers I have know would have a problem with crowds or

>beaches, etc. (even if they could afford it).

>

>This is just MY opinion, and any of you can plan what you want. A central

>location either geographically or demographically would be fair to all and

>could well be less expensive to most.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: cmontana@...

> egroups

> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 02:18 PM

> Subject: [] Re: Letting others know and help

>

>

> Recently, I arranged a trip for my boss to Las Vegas and his room was

> $109 per night. I think it was the Mirage.

>

>

> > Vegas is a few bucks cheaper than SanFrancisco or LA but very

> little difference. Rooms in either place would probably be very

> high. I personally would prefer a quiet secluded place to visit and

> relax to a place with hundreds shoving and pushing. Another

> possibility is that this time of year you can get a Bahamas cruise

> for about 250 a person double occupancy.

> > Lamar

> >

> > Air fare is cheaper if you fly to Vegas.

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 10/2/2000 8:15:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

trudyfi@... writes:

<< What about a " campout " or " camping " meeting. Would be cheaper, outdoors

and

FUN.

Trudy >>

FUN ?????

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In a message dated 10/2/2000 4:38:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

LMinella@... writes:

<< I agree. I'd shy away from the high priced areas as well. Plus I would

strongly consider driving my family (we have a camper so we could camp and

make a vacation of it) if it were centrally located.

Larry

>>

Gretchen lives in Solvang. A small. slow paced tourist town.

jenny

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In a message dated 10/2/2000 6:18:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

warrenre@... writes:

<< ! You are so funny! I love your sense of humor.

Ummm, no food or snack for me when I'm at an event like this - it only means

more trips up and down the bleachers to go to the bathroom! I'll do

anything to avoid those steps, even go without food and water. ;)

Ruth >>

Ruth put all the snacks they bring you in your purse. Stock up.. You never

know when you will need a candy bar and a diet coke. Make sure you have them

buy cans not fountain drinks. They spill to easy when you try save them.

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OK ,

I'll use that plan next time! LOL!

>

> Ummm, no food or snack for me when I'm at an event like this - it only

>means

> more trips up and down the bleachers to go to the bathroom! I'll do

> anything to avoid those steps, even go without food and water. ;)

>

> Ruth >>

>Ruth put all the snacks they bring you in your purse. Stock up.. You never

>know when you will need a candy bar and a diet coke. Make sure you have

>them

>buy cans not fountain drinks. They spill to easy when you try save them.

>

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Larry and Trudy,

Lamar here,

Great suggestions. Many state and national parks have cabins for very

reasonable rates for those unable to use a tent or camper.

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From: Trudy Finch

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Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:20 AM

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What about a " campout " or " camping " meeting. Would be cheaper, outdoors and

FUN.

Trudy

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From: <LMinella@...>

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Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:37 AM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Letting others know and help

> I agree. I'd shy away from the high priced areas as well. Plus I would

> strongly consider driving my family (we have a camper so we could camp and

> make a vacation of it) if it were centrally located.

>

> Larry

>

>

>

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What about a " campout " or " camping " meeting. Would be cheaper, outdoors and

FUN.

Trudy

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Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:37 AM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Letting others know and help

> I agree. I'd shy away from the high priced areas as well. Plus I would

> strongly consider driving my family (we have a camper so we could camp and

> make a vacation of it) if it were centrally located.

>

> Larry

>

>

>

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Date: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:09 AM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Letting others know and help

>In a message dated 10/2/2000 8:15:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

>trudyfi@... writes:

>

><< What about a " campout " or " camping " meeting. Would be cheaper, outdoors

>and

> FUN.

>

> Trudy >>

>FUN ?????

>

>

>>>>Yeah, trying to squat behind a tree in full leg braces can be trying!

LOL ~>Becky M.

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In a message dated 10/2/2000 2:17:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rmax@... writes:

<< > Trudy >>

>FUN ?????

>

>

>>>>Yeah, trying to squat behind a tree in full leg braces can be trying!

LOL ~>Becky M. >>

Just dig me 6 feet under. No way can I do camping, lol

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