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Ali;

Barb in Texas recently posted on this subject (see message #65744 in

the archives):

" " Listing " depends on more than your MELD score, the transplant

hospital's own rules also apply and they can be different hospital to

hospital. Ken's MELD score was 10 all of 2001 and has gone up to 14

and stayed there for over a year and he still isn't listed even

though his doctor recommended him for listing. "

Best regards,

Dave R.

> This is a group post- please anyone feel free to jump in. I need

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> At what stage were you listed? As in MELD score ie. 10 , 12, 15 etc.

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Ali,

My computer froze when I tried to write this earlier, but I'll try

again now. I was listed just prior to the implementation of the MELD

system in late 2001. My first MELD score was 11 once they calculated

it. I was on the list with my labs being certified every three months

for a long time. My MELD went up to 14 and hung there for a long

period (at least a year). I'm now up to 19, and I can feel the

difference. I still haven't " decompensated " (gotten ascities,

varicies or encephalopathy, but I am starting to get some edema in my

extremities). I can't believe that 's son isn't listed with a

MELD of 14 if for no other reason than to be followed closely enough

to catch it when/if things get worse, but I do know that different

centers have different philosophies.

Hang in there - there are some great centers out there. I've been

through one center that was horrible on the first visit. They have

one more chance to redeem themselves right after Thanksgiving. I've

decided that even though I've gone through a lot to get them enough

information to get me listed that unless they're a good fit, I'm not

going to bother...Above all else, I need a sense of trust when I

consider this major surgery! The two centers where I'm listed now are

wonderful places -- town and University of Pennsylvania.

Have a good weekend,

Deb in VA

PSC 1998, UC 1999, Listed Ltx 2001, MELD 19

> This is a group post- please anyone feel free to jump in. I need

the info.

> At what stage were you listed? As in MELD score ie. 10 , 12, 15 etc.

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Ali,

I received my transplant in 1998 (before the use of MELD) when I had

a MELD score of about 18. I was listed before any serious symptoms

showed up so I could accumulate time on the list - MELD at listing

was probably around 6 or less.

This time around I started the listing process of getting all the

tests and other prerequisites in order in September. In June, because

of a vitamin K deficiency, my MELD was 31, dropping to 17 after 2

weeks on K supplements. On 10/1 because of a rise in Creatinine it

was 19 and on 11/2 21. I am still not formally listed, I have to get

my dentist's OK and the final review, but that is just a formality.

My hepatologist has asked if I want a liver transplant now and I've

told him that I'd just as soon wait, the current liver is doing OK.

Like Deb I have no ascities, varicies or encephalopathy and I don't

even have any pitting edema. The creatinine rise does worry me, but I

believe it is due to the tacrolimus (anti-rejection med) and is not

related to liver failure. So I'm planning to keep on with this liver

as long as possible.

Tim R, ltx 1998, recurrant PSC 2002

> I'm now up to 19, and I can feel the

> difference. I still haven't " decompensated " (gotten ascities,

> varicies or encephalopathy, but I am starting to get some edema in

my

> extremities). I can't believe that 's son isn't listed with a

> MELD of 14 if for no other reason than to be followed closely

enough

> to catch it when/if things get worse, but I do know that different

> centers have different philosophies.

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I am basically a " lurker " and have only posted once before...but now

my disease has progressed and I wanted to know if anyone is listed

or has had a transplant at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor.

I just saw a hepatologist there this week - Lok - and she wants

me back in January to see the surgeons, social worker, etc. in the

tranplant clinic to begin the listing process.

I was diagnosed in May 01 with PSC and UC in June 03. I had a large

GI bleed just this October and was found to have esophageal varices

that required 2 episodes of banding...was a real shock for me, just

didn't believe my disease had progressed that far even though I had

cirrhosis confirmed by biopsy in May 01. No acistes or edema yet,

but I do have an elevated bilirubin and very low albumin.

So...I would like to hear if anyone has experience with U of M and

what they think about it.

Thanks

a

> > This is a group post- please anyone feel free to jump in. I need

> the info.

> > At what stage were you listed? As in MELD score ie. 10 , 12, 15

etc.

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a,

Sorry this is so late but I just got back in town. I recieved my liver

tx at the U of M and have nothing but good things to say about them. I've

seen lok, but my GI is Fontana. i've recieved excellent care

there and do not hesitate to recommend it. Tim R also was transplanted

there. Do you live close? Tim L

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