RE: 911:: More Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z's

[Guest guest]

Jim,

Also glad that you are able to not fall asleep. As I stated to Maureen, I was

not able to do this but I never ever ever missed a call nor did I sound like I

was tired.

Thank you for your input....

County

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[Guest guest]

I know this subject has been about " reply'd " to death, but I couldn't keep

my big mouth shut until I had commented on " resting one's eyes " . I've done

it without sleeping. As I mentioned before, instead of lights we can dim in

dispatch, we have " landing strip lighting " all bright, all the time. It

just about makes your eyes fall out on your cheeks after 8 hours, and if you

wear contacts, it's unmerciful. I have put drops in and shut my eyes to

rest them, making sure that while on Candid Camera, I'm tapping my fingers

or making some other motion so there is no doubt that I am awake and

listening to mostly nothing at 04:00 (after the bar fights and jail

transports). As I have said, I do not condone sleeping on mids,

especially after a whole day of activity, but honestly, there is such a

thing as " resting your eyes " and not being asleep.

Lyn

Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 6:36 AM

Subject: Re: 911:: More Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z's

We did have an > employee who would " rest her eyes " , well that is what

she would tell you if

> a supervisor came to her seeing if she was sleeping. > Jim

[Guest guest]

Bottom line is we all do what we have to do to survive and unfortunately we

all can't pick what shift we would like to work nor do we have any control

over the weekly or bi-weekly rotating shifts our agencies impose on us. We

also can't control a personal crisis which may erupt during our off duty

hours affecting our sleeping pattern for a day or two . It just sounded to

me as if we were getting somewhat hostile over this subject and I felt the

need to come out if hiding and put my 2 cents in. I am not condoning

sleeping in deep REMS on a daily basis while being paid to work. However, I

think there may be times when we could be a little more tolerant of each

others opinions and a little more understanding of each others job survival

techniques. If someone is posing a problem to public safety because of work

habits their agency should be dealing with them. I just don't think we

should be spending so much time criticizing each other in here over issues

like this. Has anyone seen the commercial where the boss walks in on the

employee with his head on the desk (asleep)? On hearing the door open the

employee pops his head up and states he was putting in his contacts using no

hands cause it is more sanitary.

:-)

Remember..... First do no harm......especially to each other.

Lucille

NWPD - New Jersey

[Guest guest]

<We also can't control a personal crisis which may erupt during our off

duty hours affecting our sleeping pattern for a day or two>

I could be mistaken, but I don't think that's what anyone was taking

issue with. It's the chronic sleepers, in my opinion.

<unfortunately we all can't pick what shift we would like to work nor do

we have any control

over the weekly or bi-weekly rotating shifts our agencies impose on us.>

I think we can all agree on that. However, one does have a responsiblity

to be as awake and alert as possible. I'm pretty sure we all knew going

into this field that shiftwork was/is a given.

<may be times when we could be a little more tolerant of each others

opinions and a little more understanding of each others job survival

techniques.>

Granted, I didn't read each and every posting, but I didn't think people

were being intolerant. Did I miss something?

<Remember..... First do no harm......especially to each other.>

I agree wholeheartedly!! However, for the several thousand of us that do

our jobs unfailingly and without incident, there is always *someone* who

doesn't. And that someone can singlehandedly do more damage to the

public's opinion of 911 dispatchers/calltakers than any amount of

self-promotion can do the opposite. On the other hand, this is/was a

discussion about sleeping on/off duty on the midnight shift.

mkatt

A. Katt

Bay County Central Dispatch 9-1-1

1228 Washington Ave.

Bay City MI 48708

kattm@... (work)

michelle.katt@...(home)

www.co.bay.mi.us

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[Guest guest]

Katt, if it makes you feel any better.. I didn't think you were being

argumentative either. (We Michiganians have to stick close together!!!)

[Guest guest]

Lucille said:

I am not condoning

sleeping in deep REMS on a daily basis while being paid to work. However, I

think there may be times when we could be a little more tolerant of each

others opinions and a little more understanding of each others job survival

techniques. If someone is posing a problem to public safety because of work

habits their agency should be dealing with them.

If you hadn't taken my words out of context you would have realized that I was

in agreement about habitual sleepers. I don't think that " resting your eyes " is

the same as habitual sleeping on the job. And if I'm not mistaken, there were a

number of references and criticisms to what was in my opinion ( if I am allowed

to have one), closing your eyes for more than a nano second.

I personally don't care for that " jump in your face " attitude

which is why I usually don't even bother having an opinion in here. That is why

I said I think there may be times when we could be a little more tolerant of

each others opinions.

Thanks for the reinforcement!

Lucille

NWPD New Jersey

[Guest guest]

Is it true that Michiganians believe they can divide by zero?

Re: 911:: More Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z's

Katt, if it makes you feel any better.. I didn't think you were being

argumentative either. (We Michiganians have to stick close together!!!)

[Guest guest]

Katt, if it makes you feel any better.. I didn't think you were being

argumentative either. (We Michiganians have to stick close together!!!)

Maybe they stick close together to keep warm or they have frozen together and

half to wait for spring to thaw out.

in NC - 80 degrees with flowers blooming.