Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Apparently they didn't talk to a real scientist, or they talked to one who was way too lazy to read the literature. You might want to warn the people not to hurt themselves on the advice of someone who clearly never read any of the papers on ALA chemistry or pharmacology - it gets into the watery part of the body just fine which is how it works. Andy . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . > hey everyone, just wanted to share this with you guys........on another group i'm on this email floated through, any comments? (i'm cutting and pasting in below) The first 2 post are just backgroud to the third......(the group has nothing to do with autism, it's living well group) > Winona > > FIRST POST > It depends on your situation. Some people, depending on need will take > more than others. L-Carnitine is used for different reasons. Some use it > to improve metabolism and others use it to help with Mitral Valve Prolapse. > See the following page for Dr. recommended amounts of > L-Carnitine: http://data:101@n.../vault/healthalert/02.htm There > are no set rules on how to supplement with amino acids, but L-Carnitine is > best taken on an empty stomach. Yes, I was taking L-Carnitine, Acetyl > L-Carnitine and Alpha Lipoic Acid when you read about my results. I took > 500mg of L-Carnitine, 1000 mgs of Acetyl L-Carnitine and 100 mgs of Alpha > Lipoic Acid for 6 weeks and lost 4% body fat. There are no side effects > that I am aware of when you take L-Carnitine but it must be L-Carnitine, > and not D-Carnitine which can cause problems. > > REPLY > Don't forget that Lipoic Acid chelates mercury if you have any metal fillings or ever have had. So you want to be very cautious using it or you will cause your mercury to redistribute. Dangerous. Jeanie > > REPLY > > Jeanie, I did more research on ALA and the mercury fillings and spoke to a scientist who gave me the following info: > > ALA is a fat soluble chelator of mercury, meaning it removes traces of it from fatty tissues, and although ALA is water soluble also it's not going to circulate through the saliva and remove mercury from dental fillings. These things just don't work that way. It's true that people with mercury in their dental fillings can get traces of mercury lodged in their brain (mostly fatty tissue) or other fatty areas of the body. Then if they take ALA sporadically, it can chelate some of the mercury and move it to another area of the body before it becomes completely expelled. That's why the protocol using ALA every four hours, day and night, for a few days to keep it moving and help expel it from the body is so valuable. But using ALA is not going to increase mercury, or remove it from the dental fillings and move it into the body and brain. If someone is teaching this, it is bad science. The body produces ALA naturally. Fresh fruits and vegetables have ALA in them, and in potatoes it is rather high. Eating liver is a good source of ALA. It is an essential part of our diet, yet considered non essential because our body actually produces it too. Supplemental ALA increases the body's antioxidant capabilities and the ability for ALA to bind to (chelate) mercury and help remove it from the body. This is the very thing that people with mercury in their dental fillings need to have, not avoid. So, go ahead and use the ALA, even if you have fillings. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 > hey everyone, just wanted to share this with you guys........on another group i'm on this email floated through, any comments? Hi Winona, First, let me tell you some things about mercury. Mercury, the way it is in the amalgam filling, is in a form called metallic mercury. It doesn't need any ALA to pull it out of there, because it easily evaporates and you inhale it and it's also transformed into inorganic mercury and you swallow it. Also, every time you eat or brush your teeth, you release some. Metallic mercury is not supposedly very dangerous for your body, because normally you should be able to excrete it. But the thing here is that this form of mercury crosses the blood brain barrier very easy. And also, your body slowly converts it into inorganic mercury, which is very dangerous and it doesn't cross the BBB at all. So if this conversion takes place while this metallic mercury is in your brain, it will remain there. It will not cross back without the help of a chelator. ALA inhibits the ability of your liver to detoxify the organic form of mercury. If you can't take it out in time, you have more chances to become more toxic, because that mercury will turn into inorganic mercury and will do a lot of damages in your body. This is why you shouldn't take ALA if you have exposure to mercury. You practically poison yourself more and more. > ALA increases the body's antioxidant capabilities and the ability for ALA to bind to (chelate) mercury and help remove it from the body. This is the very thing that people with mercury in their dental fillings need to have, not avoid. What this person doesn't know, is that ALA helps to excrete *inorganic* mercury, not organic. As I said, the ability to excrete organic mercury is actually impaired while taking ALA, so having amalgams, mercury in your lungs and intestinal tract all the time and not having the possibility to excrete it... I would say it's a little insane. > So, go ahead and use the ALA, even if you have fillings. Doesn't this sound nice? ) LOL Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 I have Barlean's lignan Flax oil, now is this considered an ala? I read in understanding autism that it is, but one can never tell http://www.barleans.com Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is a vitamin and an antioxidant? Isn't " Vitamin E " an antioxidant? Why isn't ALA a vitamin? I am not being argumentative I am just trying to educate myself. > ALA is an antioxidant, not a vitamin. S Rosner REALTOR theskyking@... www.RosnerSellsTahoe.com Century 21 South Tahoe Realty 2074 Lake Tahoe Blvd., Suite 6 South Lake Tahoe, CA. 96150 Toll Free Office: (800) 776-2120 Toll Free Cell Phone: (866) 4-Rosner Fax: (530) 544-5615 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 ALA is an antioxidant, not a vitamin. SMany people take 100-200mg of ALA daily just as a regular supplement.This tells us 2 things:1. If these people who take 200mg once a day don't get sick from it, they must not have mercury problems and2. Andy's program MUST be pretty safe for us. ALA is just a vitamin.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 In a message dated 3/4/03 12:21:15 am, TheSkyKing@... writes: > Many people take 100-200mg of ALA daily just as a regular supplement. > > This tells us 2 things: > > 1. If these people who take 200mg once a day don't get sick from it, they > must not have mercury problems and > > > 2. Andy's program MUST be pretty safe for us. ALA is just a vitamin. > > > , there is a lot of debate about whether ALA is safe as a chelator for metal toxic children. I don't think you ought to conclude anything from the fact that some people can take 200 mg of the stuff and be okay (if they do feel okay, I'm just going with what you're saying here). Some people report their children do really well on ALA alone, some say that their kids totally crash. I've spent a while looking through archives and talking to parents and am just relating what I've heard. I wouldn't be too confident it is all easy because ALA is classified this way or that. Cilantro is classified as a food, yet it is a strong, mysterious, and very often problematic chelator. So what you call the thing doesn't really seem to matter. I think you better address " gut bugs " even while chelating, no matter what route you go even while (or especially while) you are chelating. Marti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 > Why isn't ALA a vitamin? I think it is because the body can manufacture it. It is not essential. Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 > > Why isn't ALA a vitamin? > > I think it is because the body can manufacture it. It is not essential. > I don't think that can be the reason. We also manufacture vitamin A, and it is a vitamin. There is a very interesting theory that we lost the ability to manufacture our own vitamin C. We do all the steps except one -- which may explain why we need so darned MUCH of the stuff. But I digress! Moria [also not being argumentative, just thinking about it.....] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 >But the body can manufacture Vitamin D if you add sunlight.... ONLY in the presence of sunlight when it hits exposed skin. Dolphi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 But the body can manufacture Vitamin D if you add sunlight.... Re: [ ] ALA > Why isn't ALA a vitamin? I think it is because the body can manufacture it. It is not essential. Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 --- In , " englishturtle " <CFRITTS@e...> wrote: > I need to hear from those who have begun chelation just with ALA. Hi Dana, I am another Dana. I use ALA only for my kids. We are starting round 75 today. My > little guy is on 50 mg's of zinc right now. Is this enough? My son weighs 55 pounds, and I never give him 50 mg zinc. I think that dose is a little high, unless you gradually worked up to that amount and that is the dose he seems to do best on. I am a > little concerned about the copper thing. He weighs 33 lbs, so I > believe I should start with about 17mg's. Does this sound right? Does this mean you are giving him copper? If he needs zinc, I would definitely not give him any copper. We > are awaiting the DDI metals test to come back. How long does it > usually take? After how many rounds do you test again? Is it more > aggressive to do DMSA as well, or just ALA? Depends on who you ask. Some people believe just doing ALA is more aggressive, others believe doing both together is more aggressive. Here is my general chelation info page http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm Good luck. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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