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Has anyone experience hyperactivity and/or increased stimming with

super nu thera? I have been trying to figure out what is increasing

my son's stimming/hyperactivity and it seems to be linked to the

super nu thera? Any suggestions? Thanks-GTEALER

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--- In , " gtealer <gtealer1@m...> " <gtealer1@m...>

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> Has anyone experience hyperactivity and/or increased stimming with

> super nu thera? I have been trying to figure out what is increasing

> my son's stimming/hyperactivity and it seems to be linked to the

> super nu thera? Any suggestions? Thanks-GTEALER--------------------------

REPLY; This is info from the new gfcf board; several people complained of slight

hyperactivity when begiining SNT and it was suggested by others there that it

may be due to being a phenolic product. However, I don't recall if we had such

but it's been 4 years ago. I think on Rimland's site, he suggests that if this

should occur, to down size the amount and give more Folic acid tabs. More

magnesium sometimes helps, also, IMO, as long as it nots oxide, which is

laxative. Did you remember to start with the small amounts first then work up to

the full required-suggested amount over a couple of week's time? That could

help. You might also try the good ol' bicarb of soda in water, 1 teaspoon to one

8 oz. glass, or lesser amount of 1/4 teaspon to 1/4 - 4 oz. - of water. This

solution isn't hurt by letting it sit out overnight, if you need to use it thru'

the night. They don't need to drink it all at once either, just a gulp or 2,

then sips through the day, or eve. For phenol problems, the enzymes are often

suggested by parents who use them. Try all these 'things' first, then, if they

still have problems with SNT, you can try another form of it, that is, if you're

using liquid now, switch to powder or caplets that you can crush. Be sure that

they, the kids, also have a full mineral balance wih it. If nothing helps, then

IMO, try a 'normal' amount, or RDA, of a B-complex. There are also other

formulas with special needs kids in mind that may have a full array of the

necessary 'stuff' already in it and ..either the RDA of the B6, B12, Folic, or

just a little higher for those with a complete formula for the other needed

stuff that you might try. Oh, another 'warnign type'.. never let the SNT sit out

on the counter after opening. It can, and has, turned into 'green wine',

fermented, and can cause a multitude of other problems. I bought too big of a

bottle for the kids and Mom often left it sit out until eve. When we switched to

powder, I tok the bottle home, thinking I'd take it. Then I found out it had

started to ferment and boy! Did I have stomach aches. So, the powder is better

for us. Grandma Peg

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Lots of people report they get hyper and stimming with SNT, but you can try

lowering the dose. I never had a problem with it on 1 t/day. But now I've

switched to more balanced product. SNT was a while back. A good B-complex

and maybe adding in 100 mg. of B-6 is what I am trying out now, after using

miscellized B drops for awhile (doctor thinks his B6 was too low on that).

Then you have to add in all the other supps separately, which is a pain.

Magnesium, v. important. Zinc, biotin, cis A (preferably), D, E, maybe some

CoQ10. Oh, yes, a big pain which is why I used the SNT, but it is pretty

extreme product and lots of side effects I've heard about over the years of

being " on the boards " . And I dont' mean executive boards!

Marti.

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it seemed to be all the extra B for us, we stopped the SNT, and it stopped too.

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Has anyone experience hyperactivity and/or increased stimming with

super nu thera? I have been trying to figure out what is increasing

my son's stimming/hyperactivity and it seems to be linked to the

super nu thera? Any suggestions? Thanks-GTEALER

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Thanks everyone for the replies. Can anyone recommend any one

supplement to replace the super nu? Thanks-Gerriann

> > Has anyone experience hyperactivity and/or increased stimming

with

> > super nu thera? I have been trying to figure out what is

increasing

> > my son's stimming/hyperactivity and it seems to be linked to the

> > super nu thera? Any suggestions? Thanks-GTEALER-----------------

--------- REPLY; This is info from the new gfcf board; several people

complained of slight hyperactivity when begiining SNT and it was

suggested by others there that it may be due to being a phenolic

product. However, I don't recall if we had such but it's been 4 years

ago. I think on Rimland's site, he suggests that if this should

occur, to down size the amount and give more Folic acid tabs. More

magnesium sometimes helps, also, IMO, as long as it nots oxide, which

is laxative. Did you remember to start with the small amounts first

then work up to the full required-suggested amount over a couple of

week's time? That could help. You might also try the good ol' bicarb

of soda in water, 1 teaspoon to one 8 oz. glass, or lesser amount of

1/4 teaspon to 1/4 - 4 oz. - of water. This solution isn't hurt by

letting it sit out overnight, if you need to use it thru' the night.

They don't need to drink it all at once either, just a gulp or 2,

then sips through the day, or eve. For phenol problems, the enzymes

are often suggested by parents who use them. Try all these 'things'

first, then, if they still have problems with SNT, you can try

another form of it, that is, if you're using liquid now, switch to

powder or caplets that you can crush. Be sure that they, the kids,

also have a full mineral balance wih it. If nothing helps, then IMO,

try a 'normal' amount, or RDA, of a B-complex. There are also other

formulas with special needs kids in mind that may have a full array

of the necessary 'stuff' already in it and ..either the RDA of the

B6, B12, Folic, or just a little higher for those with a complete

formula for the other needed stuff that you might try. Oh,

another 'warnign type'.. never let the SNT sit out on the counter

after opening. It can, and has, turned into 'green wine', fermented,

and can cause a multitude of other problems. I bought too big of a

bottle for the kids and Mom often left it sit out until eve. When we

switched to powder, I tok the bottle home, thinking I'd take it. Then

I found out it had started to ferment and boy! Did I have stomach

aches. So, the powder is better for us. Grandma Peg

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> Has anyone experience hyperactivity and/or increased stimming with

> super nu thera? I have been trying to figure out what is increasing

> my son's stimming/hyperactivity and it seems to be linked to the

> super nu thera? Any suggestions? Thanks-GTEALER

SNT aggravates phenol symptoms for phenol sensitive children. I have

a study to that effect on my site page here

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

Some parents have luck with lower doses of hypoallergenic NuThera.

Others find that their kids do not tolerate high doses of B6,

especially the P5P version.

Dana

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  • 3 years later...

Yes, my son will be 6 in Feb and he also was dx w/PDDNOS & apraxia. It

hasn't helped him w/speech but it is an excellent vitamin and I have been

giving

it to him for almost 6 mths. I hasn't really been too sick either - with

colds.. so I'm sure a strong vitamin helps with that. but speech - no real

difference. I saw the speech surge with the ProEFAs. Hope this helps. Phyllis

and Nicolas

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We used it for a while too...but it tastes really nasty and eventually

it was too much trouble to get in. No change when we stopped and went

back to flinstones. -

> Yes, my son will be 6 in Feb and he also was dx w/PDDNOS & apraxia.

It

> hasn't helped him w/speech but it is an excellent vitamin and I have

been giving

> it to him for almost 6 mths. I hasn't really been too sick either -

with

> colds.. so I'm sure a strong vitamin helps with that. but speech -

no real

> difference. I saw the speech surge with the ProEFAs. Hope this

helps. Phyllis

> and Nicolas

>

>

>

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My kids could not tolerate super nu thera. We like Brainchild

Nutritionals liquid vitamins and minerals - you can get a trial bottle

at brainchildnutritionals.com.

>

> We used it for a while too...but it tastes really nasty and eventually

> it was too much trouble to get in. No change when we stopped and went

> back to flinstones. -

>

> > Yes, my son will be 6 in Feb and he also was dx w/PDDNOS & apraxia.

> It

> > hasn't helped him w/speech but it is an excellent vitamin and I have

> been giving

> > it to him for almost 6 mths. I hasn't really been too sick either -

> with

> > colds.. so I'm sure a strong vitamin helps with that. but speech -

> no real

> > difference. I saw the speech surge with the ProEFAs. Hope this

> helps. Phyllis

> > and Nicolas

> >

> >

> >

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Hi, My name is Haydee. What is the brainchild and what does it do?

Thank you,

haydee

aigjr@... wrote: , did you see any progress with the

brainchild? What form are they in

and taste? thanks, Carolyn

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Brainchild Nutritionals (Brainchildnutritionals.com) makes

multi-vitamin and mineral liquids. They taste decent, much better than

super nu thera, and my kids have never had any negative reaction to

them (they did to SNT). We mix the liquid in OJ.

, did you see any progress with the

brainchild? What form are they in

> and taste? thanks, Carolyn

>

>

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  • 2 months later...
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Oh my gosh, I just looked on the Kirkman labs website and there must

be 50 Super Nu Theras listed!! Which one do people use?

We need a liquid for our son, almost 3 yrs, who has apraxia,

hypotonia, and developmental delays. We currently do a calcium

supplement as well as multivitamin so if there's one with calcium that

people like, I'd be interested in that. I'm also interested in which

flavor people have liked best.

Thanks. Off-list is fine - dt23@.... I did a search of the

archives and saw that discussion of this vitamin has come up before,

but didn't see the answer to my particular question.

Thanks.

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  • 5 months later...

I know burnt butt as we have had it. We got it with citrus yet my

kids were deemed not allergic. I now question if it was a metal

thing, an undetected allergy, or yeast. No way to know. That is why I

asked.

P.S. Daughter gets burnt butt with 1/4 dose Supernuthera w/o A and D.

>

> Sorry Liz, just saw this email. It was an allergic reaction that

happened

> right away. " Burnt Butt " syndrome has to do with allergies to some

ingredient in

> what she digested. It did not happen with the hypoallergenic

version of

> super nu thera. Carolyn

>

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