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Well...since nobody got mad at me for encouraging water I'll add just a few

more notes.

Drinking very cold water is harder on the body because the body has to bring

it up to body temperature. Now...in the winter you might want this..more

work for the body. But drinking cold water in the summer as wonderful as it

feels in the mouth, makes the body work harder and thus get hotter, not

cooler. I know...seems strange....but works. Now...I do drink ice water

whenever I have it in a restraunt because I can't stand the taste of tap

water. Whenever possible I put two lemon wedges into the water so that I

can even drink them. Bad water is the only thing that upsets my tummy when

pregnant (except for pregnancies nu number 8 and 9 when I had normal lady

morning sickness.)

Reverse Osmosis is a method of taking stuff out of the water. Some people

use a distiller, which we did for years, but we prefer the RO. We rent our

from Culligan, lots of different companies have it. Filtered water helps

but isn't as good. We have used the Britta Water filter system when canning

because it is so fast. You can even hook up an RO unit to your

refrigerator.

Speaking of water...here is a suggestion I got off my Large Family list and

something I had considered but am really seriously thinking about now...that

is to get a water fountain, one for inside the home and another for the

yard. You know...the really nice kind like at church etc? When using

containers for storing water, like jugs, be sure that they are not made in

Mexico. Some years ago it was discovered that many of the containers from

Mexico (and I would imagine from other foreign countries) contained lead.

With Y2K coming...I know, we don't know how bad it might be but it is our

responsibility as mothers to help our family through any crisis, especially

ones we see MIGHT happen. Please store water. The water systems are run by

micro chips and may be seriously effected. Keep in mind these things:

Store 1 gallon per day per person, store 2 gallons per day per person if you

need it for more than just drinking/cooking.

Do not store on a concrete floor.; Buy or make wooden slats or shelves to

store the water. Water will pick up the flavor of the concrete and be

totally undrinkable.

Do not store water in a container too heavy to life and use.

Sparkletts water in plastic bottles is made to last 5 years unopened. You

can store the water you purchase in the stores, unopened. If you add your

own water to containers than be sure and treat the water with minute amounts

of chlorine.

If you are planning on cooking things that take a lot of water like food

that needs reconstitution, beans, noodles, etc...then store extra water.

If you have a water bed and do not treat it with certain chemicals then it

is usable. Some water is usable for things other than drinking and

cleaning. Look around your home and decide what other needs you might have.

If you need to use the toilet than you need water to flush, having water in

a bucket and emptiying it into the toilet works.

Hopefully any water problem will only last days but the recommendation for

any serious emergency is to store 2 weeks worth of water. I recommend that

you store extra for other people around you if possible.

Cherie

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I have heard that about not drinking cold water.. but i figure... at least

I can get it down that way. Sometimes it is a matter of drinking it ice

cold or not drinking it at all. I used to live in the desert where there

was well water and I loved it :) but the water in sacramento is yuky city

water.. oh well:) I drink what I can:) Thanks for the great info Cherie:)

you are also a great advice/experience giver:) Jenn

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>Well...since nobody got mad at me for encouraging water I'll add just a few

>more notes.

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>Cherie

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At 01:56 PM 3/31/99 , you wrote:<br>

& gt;From: & quot;Cherie Logan & quot; & lt;chenille@... & gt;<br>

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& gt;Well...since nobody got mad at me for encouraging water I'll add just

a few<br>

& gt;more notes.<br>

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Cherie,<br>

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I don't think anyone would get mad at someone who encourages drinking

more water.  :)<br>

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What I posted was from La Leche League ( & quot;drink to thirst & quot;), and

I understand that most Americans could stand to drink more water, but

it's also not going to ruin your milk supply if you don't.  Think of all

the mothers in the other parts of the world with inadequate drinking

water. Where I live now, in Portugal, drinking water is the pits.  Women

rarely drink enough water whether or not they're pregnant or lactating. 

Women who suffer through draughts and famines manage to provide

sufficient milk for their babies as well.<br>

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The original note about drinking enough water asked this:<br>

<font face= " Comic Sans MS " color= " #800080 " ><b><blockquote type=cite cite>For

instance - I just found out that I should have been drinking lots of

water when breastfeeding.  I never knew that and water is my least

favorite of drinks.  Needless to say breastfeeding didn't last long with

any of my first 4 babies.   So I was determined to drink all the water

I'm supposed to this time to avoid the possibility of losing my milk

supply.  </font></b><br>

<font color= " #000000 " > <br>

</font><font face= " Comic Sans MS " color= " #800080 " ><b>My problem is that I

really don't like water.  Is there something besides water I can drink -

like I know I'm supposed to drink 8-10 glasses per day.  Is that

& quot;fluids & quot; or just water?  Does the juice and non-caffeinated

sodas I drink in a day count towards the 8-10 glasses?  Does anyone have

any tricks to enhancing the flavor of water (like lemon,

etc.)?</font></b></blockquote><br>

</b><font color= " #000000 " >For many mothers, especially in the US, there

are already enough perceived obstacles between them and a good milk

supply, that to say that unless they drink & quot;x & quot; ounces of water

between meals will set them up for failure, even if it's only

self-imposed and not real.<br>

<br>

Someone told me that since our bodies are at least 70% water, we should

make our beverages be at least 70% water, and that's easier for many

mothers to accomplish than by saying you can't drink this or this, and

you must drink & quot;x & quot; ounces of fluid water. <br>

<br>

Just as we learn with our babies, since breastfeeding means we can't know

how much goes in, we must learn to watch their diapers, breastfeeding

mothers must also learn to watch their own urine output.  If your urine

is pale yellow to clear, you are getting enough to drink.  <br>

<br>

Through all my nutrition and anatomy courses in college, I've never heard

that water drank with meals would be bypassed by the kidneys and ignored

as if it were simply food.  Water is absorbed in the lower intestines

whether or not it is drunk with food.  There is no direct path to the

kidneys from the stomach.  <br>

<br>

Water is a vital resource for our bodies, but it's not paramount to

making milk.  More water in most people's diets would improve their

overall health, but for centuries many people have survived without

consuming large quantities of it, too. & nbsp; Nursing mothers are no

exception. & nbsp; Water is naturally occurring in most fruits and

vegetables; if not, our species would have gone into extinction hundreds

of years ago.<br>

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Wendi,

Actually very little absorption ever occurs in the stomach, and

specifically not water, thanks to the highly acidic stomach environment.

Water doesn't get absorbed until it reaches the intestines, even on an

empty stomach. If your intestines were incapable of absorbing water, or

all water was bypassing your intestines by way of your stomach, you'd also

have no absorption of essential vitamins, carbohydrates, minerals, lipids,

etc. They all need water to be transported through your body via your

bloodstream.

This isn't to say that I think water should be avoided! It does say that

even if your water intake occurs with meals, it still benefits your body.

Eating a variety of foods in as close to their natural state as possible is

the best way to get nutrition. Drinking water with meals, between meals,

or as a component of a meal (juice, broth, etc) is still water that

benefits your body. It gets broken down into the smallest components

during digestion, and H2O will always be water.

I drink mostly water during the day, save one can of soda at some point for

the flavor, simply because it's calorie free, and I'm watching my weight.

I also drink water because our bodies are composed of more than 70% water

and that needs to be replenished and replaced frequently; but not because

it will make more or better milk.

Do you think women who live in areas outside the US with no access to clean

drinking water have smaller volumes of breastmilk? Most, if not all, of

their water intake comes from foods cooked in water, like soups, and from

naturally occurring sources of water, like fruits. In the US, we take safe

drinking water for granted.

At 12:25 AM 4/2/99 , you wrote:

>Angie,

>

>I agree with most everything you've said but there is a direct route from

the stomach to the kidneys, blood vessels. When water is drunk on an empty

stomach it goes directly into the bloodstream and taken to the kidneys. If

water is drunk with food it takes until the large intestines for it to go

to the blood vessels and then the kidneys. I do all my water drinking in

between meals. I drink whatever makes me happy at meals. :)

>

>Wendi

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It is interesting because the things I said I learned in a college level anatomy

class. I never said that breastmilk volume was dependent on water intake. I

believe that it isn't. I believe that water intake is important to the mother's

overall health. If those women in other countries had access to clean drinking

water wouldn't you encourage them to drink it? I am not in any way saying that

you cannot live you life without lots of water or that women in other countries

have any less quality of life. I am merely saying that if clean drinking water

is available to us I believe it is healthy to drink it. I also believe it is

healthiest to drink it plain. I do believe that your body will adapt to get

water from any source, but giving it to your body straight saves a lot of

energy. :)

Wendi

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Wendi,

Actually very little absorption ever occurs in the stomach, and

specifically not water, thanks to the highly acidic stomach environment.

Water doesn't get absorbed until it reaches the intestines, even on an

empty stomach. If your intestines were incapable of absorbing water, or

all water was bypassing your intestines by way of your stomach, you'd also

have no absorption of essential vitamins, carbohydrates, minerals, lipids,

etc. They all need water to be transported through your body via your

bloodstream.

This isn't to say that I think water should be avoided! It does say that

even if your water intake occurs with meals, it still benefits your body.

Eating a variety of foods in as close to their natural state as possible is

the best way to get nutrition. Drinking water with meals, between meals,

or as a component of a meal (juice, broth, etc) is still water that

benefits your body. It gets broken down into the smallest components

during digestion, and H2O will always be water.

I drink mostly water during the day, save one can of soda at some point for

the flavor, simply because it's calorie free, and I'm watching my weight.

I also drink water because our bodies are composed of more than 70% water

and that needs to be replenished and replaced frequently; but not because

it will make more or better milk.

Do you think women who live in areas outside the US with no access to clean

drinking water have smaller volumes of breastmilk? Most, if not all, of

their water intake comes from foods cooked in water, like soups, and from

naturally occurring sources of water, like fruits. In the US, we take safe

drinking water for granted.

At 12:25 AM 4/2/99 , you wrote:

>Angie,

>

>I agree with most everything you've said but there is a direct route from

the stomach to the kidneys, blood vessels. When water is drunk on an empty

stomach it goes directly into the bloodstream and taken to the kidneys. If

water is drunk with food it takes until the large intestines for it to go

to the blood vessels and then the kidneys. I do all my water drinking in

between meals. I drink whatever makes me happy at meals. :)

>

>Wendi

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