Re: Behavior Problems during Therapy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/15/2002 8:03:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

debtar85@... writes:

<< do you think he is at an age that he needs

to be without Mommy?? >>

Hi Debbie,

My daughter received speech therapy in our home for 2 years when she was

pre-school age. For the first several months, it was fine if I was in the

room. Eventually, I had to leave the room because she was more well-behaved

and stayed on task better if I wasn't there. I just sat in the next room and

listened so I could keep abreast of what the therapist was working on.

Good Luck!

Martha - mom to Jake moderate/severe age 10, and moderate/severe

age 8

[Guest guest]

" do you think he is at an age that he needs to be without Mommy?? "

From our experience, we had home therapy for about 6 months before

starting preschool. Cassidy was less cooperative when I was

around. It got better when she started going to preschool full-

time. At my house, my kids act better when with strangers than with

me!! lol We did summer speech at Ball State University for 2

summers. I ended up having to leave the room (I hated to) because

she was not wanting to follow the therapists directions. She's

almost 6 now, and tells me that she doesn't want me to go back with

her anymore. Oh well, they all grow up sometime!!!

Hope this helps!!

Jill

Mom to Karly 9, Cassidy 5 1/2 HOH, and 3

PS We have taken one summer off (of therapy) because she was just

working so hard I felt she needed a break

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

When my hoh daughter was 3 we were doing speech therapy in Holyoke 3X a

week for 1 hr each. She was a little wild child andyways and it was

easier for her to be distracted when I was in the room. I was there to

learn what to do. We decided it was best if I watched from a 2 way

window. She started working on the simple language tasks rather than

get my attention. We also grouped her with another little girl with

hearing aids and that was our ticket. It became more of a play

atmosphere with a learningmate and it helped alot. She was having fun

too. She still had days when she wasnt into it as much but realized it

was part of her routine. 3 is a tough age anyways. Dont be hard on

yourself. Maybe the therapist could come up with some ideas to make it

more fun. Now my daughter is 6 and still has speech but the early

learning she got at Holyoke taught me for a lifetime. Best wishes to

you.

[Guest guest]

> has been experiencing behavior problems

> during our av and speech therapy sessions.

---<snip>---

> do you think he is at an age that he needs

> to be without Mommy??

Your message brings to mind 4 things that happened when JD was 3 (he's 15 now)

that you

may, or may not, want to look into.

1) I used to have to sit him on my lap to help him focus - otherwise his

attention was all

over the place.

2) JD was allergic to something in the therapist's office. He could be clear as

a bell

when we walked in, but stuffed up within 5 minutes. We eventually had to change

to therapy

in our home.

3) Once, when going over to a neighbor's house for a play-date, JD walked in the

house,

turned and waved bye-bye, and shut the door in my face. I figured then he was

ready for

some " away " time and enrolled him in pre-school.

4) JD's hearing shifted, meaning that his current hearing aids were no longer

strong

enough - so if you haven't already looked into this, I would strongy suggest

checking his

earmolds and 's hearing. With JD, he's never had feedback when he outgrew

his

earmolds. The first sign was that they didn't work for him anymore.

Good luck!

-Kay

[Guest guest]

Debbie,

We went through a phase of this kind of behavior with my son as well.

I remember one session, our AV therapist just kept pushing him. She turned

him away from me and tried to force whatever the issue was. The following

week she came in and apologized for her behavior. Because the parent is such

an integral part of AV therapy it was never a choice for me to leave the

room. It probably would have helped but then I wouldn't be prepared to do

his lessons during the week. We did get through it even as stubborn as

is. Try to make it fun for him and try to schedule the sessions early in the

day or after nap (if your lucky enough to still have one) when he is rested.

Good luck and just know that it won't last forever.

Tammy Norman

[Guest guest]

At 04:19 PM 1/16/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Debbie,

>When my hoh daughter was 3 we were doing speech therapy in Holyoke 3X a

>week for 1 hr each.

Allie Holmberg? She's at e now.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Hi Deb,

le is going through the same types of behavior right now also. She just

refused to cooperate at times. Sometimes I feel that maybe she is on overload

too. She is in school 4 days a week from 8:45 to 11:45 and gets speech 2X's a

week for 1/2hour, then on Monday right after school she has private PT for an

hour and, Wednesday right after school private OT for an hour, then her Private

Speech is on Friday when she is off school and that's all she has.

We have the opposite problem however, she is glued to me. She fears people she

doesn't know, if someone say's hello to her in the store she flips. So I can

usually get her cooperate by telling her if she doesn't stop, I am leaving and

going in the other room until she is done therapy, then she calms down.

I see a lot of behavior issues at home however. Some that really concern me.

But her school states she is fine and usually the best one there. Which I find

hard to believe. lol. But she loves the new program she is in and she will

stay there by herself now. I have to take her in, she won't go into the school

with the teacher at all, but once unpacked she is fine.

I wish I could be of more help.

Take Care,

Colleen

Mom to 7 year old (hearing,asthma, and allergies,)

Mom to le 3 year old, (moderately-severe hearing loss, etc)

P.S. By the way Congratulations. Hope your feeling okay.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/15/02 8:02:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

debtar85@... writes:

> .... Should I be

> concerned with this behavior??? Is the therapy getting to be TOO MUCH

>

Hi Debbie,

Your letter brought back so many memories to me. I have...the most

stubborn child in the world..LOLOL I am sure I share that title with many

many parents , who is now 9 and gradually outgrowing some things,

still holds the title and has proved to us it is just who she is. We started

AV therapy when was 13 months old..creativity became a way of life. I

can tell you for several years we didn't' sit at a table, but all ( the

therapist, myself, and ) sat, laid and played on the floor. There

where a couple of times when the therapist and I had a great AV

session...LOLOL We always just kept playing, and listening, and eventually

as it looked like we where having fun, and we where , would come back

over on her own.

I saw a wonderful Tape that Warren Estabrooks had put together many

years ago that offered the art of following the child, but still having

control. You can make anything into a listening game..so often whatever toy

of the day she was into, we just followed her lead, and played and

played....and talked and talked..and she listened and listened. I can

remember being frustrated at times...but slowly you will find that meeting

halfway in the middle gets the job done Good Luck...

From one stubborn kids Mom, to another:)

Clarion 8/99

Holly Clarion 12/99

[Guest guest]

Yes Alli is at e now as a director. She was invaluable to us. I

just loved her. She was the source behind our coping, dealing and

learning about a child with hearing loss. I miss her. We havent

gotten someone like her since. I know the director at Holyoke Mrs.

Essat misses her dearly. .

[Guest guest]

Our son's first words were verbs. I NEVER sat still..the therapists

kept trying to do the traditional play with animals and the cow says

MOO, etc. My son didn't care about animals. He only cared about moving

and running. So, at my suggestion, the therapists pulled my son out of

the therapy room and literally made a track around the therapy rooms and

ran with him. They practiced stop, go, fast slow. They literally threw

him up onto tabless for up and had him jump off for down...shoved him

under for in and had him pop out for out...etc. He loved it and LEARNED

AND LEARNED (Note: it wasn't as rough as the words sound). That was the

only way he'd cooperate at first. Then I told them to follow his lead

and introduce words he was interested in. Like cars...we had them go up

and down and in and out. So the transition was from him running to

sitting there watching other inanimate objects do the moving...then more

and more sitting. He's still not great at sitting still though he's 11

and we just pulled his speech therapy since it was interfering with the

rest of his life and he can make all of the speech sounds, so it's no

longer an issue. He graduated to board games and then to straight

working hard sitting there still. That's how we transitioned him.

ALways work to/with the interests of the child. Speech therapy is hard

and boring enough. If it's on someone else's agenda, they just won't

work.

AVHear2@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 1/15/02 8:02:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> debtar85@... writes:

>

> > .... Should I be

> > concerned with this behavior??? Is the therapy getting to be TOO MUCH

> >

>

> Hi Debbie,

>

> Your letter brought back so many memories to me. I have...the most

> stubborn child in the world..LOLOL I am sure I share that title with many

> many parents , who is now 9 and gradually outgrowing some things,

> still holds the title and has proved to us it is just who she is. We started

> AV therapy when was 13 months old..creativity became a way of life. I

> can tell you for several years we didn't' sit at a table, but all ( the

> therapist, myself, and ) sat, laid and played on the floor. There

> where a couple of times when the therapist and I had a great AV

> session...LOLOL We always just kept playing, and listening, and eventually

> as it looked like we where having fun, and we where , would come back

> over on her own.

> I saw a wonderful Tape that Warren Estabrooks had put together many

> years ago that offered the art of following the child, but still having

> control. You can make anything into a listening game..so often whatever toy

> of the day she was into, we just followed her lead, and played and

> played....and talked and talked..and she listened and listened. I can

> remember being frustrated at times...but slowly you will find that meeting

> halfway in the middle gets the job done Good Luck...

> >From one stubborn kids Mom, to another:)

>

> Clarion 8/99

> Holly Clarion 12/99

>

>