Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 And no wonder Tony Blair says 'there is not a scrap of evidence....'... [ ] UK MMR Researcher Paid By Vaccine Makers This message was posted on another autism board: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/story.html? in_review_id=675838 & in_review_text_id=647835 MMR researcher paid by vaccine makers by Maxine Frith, Medical Reporter A scientist researching the controversial MMR jab for the Government is also being employed by a drug company that makes the vaccine, the Evening Standard has learned. Campaigners who are concerned that there could be a link between MMR and autism in children said it was " disgraceful " that Dr Phil Minor was being paid by pharmaceutical giant Glaxo-Kline (GSK) while also being employed as an independent expert. Dr Minor, who works for the Government's National Institute for Biological Standards and Control (NIBSC) is also working for GSK in a legal test case being brought by eight families who say their children were damaged by MMR. Kirkbride MP said: " This news will hardly inspire public confidence. It is a pity that the Government could not find doctors who the public would believe are more open. " GSK is one of three MMR manufacturers being sued by the parents of children who were allegedly damaged by the jab. The other two companies are Aventis Pasteur MSD and Merck & Co. More than 1,000 children are involved in the legal action. Eight are being used in a legal test case due to come before the High Court in October next year. Last week it was announced that the Department of Health had given £300,000 to fund an NIBSC study which will attempt to copy research by Dr Wakefield, who has suggested that there is a link between MMR and autism. The three-year study is part of continuing research into MMR by the NIBSC. Dr Minor is a key member of the team. He is an expert virologist and also sat on the Medical Research Council's recent review body into autism which last December said that there was " no evidence " to support a link between the condition and MMR. All the experts and lay members on the review body were asked to declare their interests. In documents seen by the Evening Standard, Dr Minor said he had no commercial-or academic interestsbut under " others " stated he was an " expert adviser on molecular virology in MMR-autism cases " . He did not state whether he was working for a specific company. But today a spokesman for GSK confirmed that Dr Minor is retained by the company. Dr Minor was unavailable for comment but Dr Inglis, director of the NIBSC, said: " I would object extremely strongly to any suggestion that our work is not objective. Any implication that there is no objectivity in this study is outrageous. " However, Loch, whose six-year-old son Oliver is one of the eight children bringing the landmark legal case, said: " It's disgraceful. We have been campaigning for independent research and that is what we thought we were getting with this new study. How can we believe that this is going to be independent when one of the main researchers is obviously on the side of the drugs companies? " This research will be a whitewash. " ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 > And no wonder Tony Blair says 'there is not a scrap of evidence....'... > > And no wonder Tony Blair refuses to answer explicit " yes " or " no " to the question whether his baby son received his MMR vaccination... Can somebody subpoena his (and other pro-vax politicians') offspring vaccination records?? The proof of their crime of knowingly harming our children may lay there. One may argue that it would be invasion of their family privacy - but they feel free to invade ours and mandate medical interventions to our children without our informed consent and permission. So why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Thanks , Now what about all the dopes on this side of the ocean? Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Griffiths wrote:And no wonder Tony Blair says 'there is not a scrap of evidence....'... [ ] UK MMR Researcher Paid By Vaccine Makers This message was posted on another autism board: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/story.html? in_review_id=675838 & in_review_text_id=647835 MMR researcher paid by vaccine makers by Maxine Frith, Medical Reporter A scientist researching the controversial MMR jab for the Government is also being employed by a drug company that makes the vaccine, the Evening Standard has learned. Campaigners who are concerned that there could be a link between MMR and autism in children said it was " disgraceful " that Dr Phil Minor was being paid by pharmaceutical giant Glaxo-Kline (GSK) while also being employed as an independent expert. Dr Minor, who works for the Government's National Institute for Biological Standards and Control (NIBSC) is also working for GSK in a legal test case being brought by eight families who say their children were damaged by MMR. Kirkbride MP said: " This news will hardly inspire public confidence. It is a pity that the Government could not find doctors who the public would believe are more open. " GSK is one of three MMR manufacturers being sued by the parents of children who were allegedly damaged by the jab. The other two companies are Aventis Pasteur MSD and Merck & Co. More than 1,000 children are involved in the legal action. Eight are being used in a legal test case due to come before the High Court in October next year. Last week it was announced that the Department of Health had given £300,000 to fund an NIBSC study which will attempt to copy research by Dr Wakefield, who has suggested that there is a link between MMR and autism. The three-year study is part of continuing research into MMR by the NIBSC. Dr Minor is a key member of the team. He is an expert virologist and also sat on the Medical Research Council's recent review body into autism which last December said that there was " no evidence " to support a link between the condition and MMR. All the experts and lay members on the review body were asked to declare their interests. In documents seen by the Evening Standard, Dr Minor said he had no commercial-or academic interestsbut under " others " stated he was an " expert adviser on molecular virology in MMR-autism cases " . He did not state whether he was working for a specific company. But today a spokesman for GSK confirmed that Dr Minor is retained by the company. Dr Minor was unavailable for comment but Dr Inglis, director of the NIBSC, said: " I would object extremely strongly to any suggestion that our work is not objective. Any implication that there is no objectivity in this study is outrageous. " However, Loch, whose six-year-old son Oliver is one of the eight children bringing the landmark legal case, said: " It's disgraceful. We have been campaigning for independent research and that is what we thought we were getting with this new study. How can we believe that this is going to be independent when one of the main researchers is obviously on the side of the drugs companies? " This research will be a whitewash. " ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 TO: Health and Safety Executive Website: http://www.doh.gov.uk/index.htm ACDP Secretariat 6th Floor Rose Court 1 Southwark Bridge Road London, Great Britain SE1 6HS ACDP.Secretariat@... Subject; Selection Of Phil Minor To Head Study Of MMR How stupid can your management be to select a man (Dr. Phil Minor) with conflicted interest to perform a supposed unbiased study. Thousands of families whose lives may have been effected 'till the day they are lowered into their grave are concerned about seeking truth about the effect of MMR vaccine on their children. With so many unbiased researchers in this world you select one that is tainted. No wonder the British mothers and families haven't any trust in your Government Research and Regulatory Agencies. Yes, you can't you blame mothers for making decisions that are not based on your agencies propaganda rather on a mother's instinct of what is safest for her child. In America we call people like you 'out of touch dopes' who think they are working in a vacuum. We are all out here watching you. Shapiro, USA thepaulshapiro@... http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=675838 & in_rev\ iew_id=647835 © Associated Newspapers Ltd., 23 August 2002 LONDON MMR researcher paid by vaccine makers by Maxine Frith, Medical Reporter A scientist researching the controversial MMR jab for the Government is also being employed by a drug company that makes the vaccine, the Evening Standard has learned. Campaigners who are concerned that there could be a link between MMR and autism in children said it was " disgraceful " that Dr Phil Minor was being paid by pharmaceutical giant Glaxo-Kline (GSK) while also being employed as an independent expert. Dr Minor, who works for the Government's National Institute for Biological Standards and Control (NIBSC) is also working for GSK in a legal test case being brought by eight families who say their children were damaged by MMR. Kirkbride MP said: " This news will hardly inspire public confidence. It is a pity that the Government could not find doctors who the public would believe are more open. " GSK is one of three MMR manufacturers being sued by the parents of children who were allegedly damaged by the jab. The other two companies are Aventis Pasteur MSD and Merck & Co. More than 1,000 children are involved in the legal action. Eight are being used in a legal test case due to come before the High Court in October next year. Last week it was announced that the Department of Health had given £300,000 to fund an NIBSC study which will attempt to copy research by Dr Wakefield, who has suggested that there is a link between MMR and autism. The three-year study is part of continuing research into MMR by the NIBSC. Dr Minor is a key member of the team. He is an expert virologist and also sat on the Medical Research Council's recent review body into autism which last December said that there was " no evidence " to support a link between the condition and MMR. All the experts and lay members on the review body were asked to declare their interests. In documents seen by the Evening Standard, Dr Minor said he had no commercial-or academic interestsbut under " others " stated he was an " expert adviser on molecular virology in MMR-autism cases " . He did not state whether he was working for a specific company. But today a spokesman for GSK confirmed that Dr Minor is retained by the company. Dr Minor was unavailable for comment but Dr Inglis, director of the NIBSC, said: " I would object extremely strongly to any suggestion that our work is not objective. Any implication that there is no objectivity in this study is outrageous. " However, Loch, whose six-year-old son Oliver is one of the eight children bringing the landmark legal case, said: " It's disgraceful. We have been campaigning for independent research and that is what we thought we were getting with this new study. How can we believe that this is going to be independent when one of the main researchers is obviously on the side of the drugs companies? " This research will be a whitewash. " CC: " J Autism Dr Yazbak " <TLAutStudy@...>, " Editor, Lenny Autism,FEAT " <editor@...> --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 > And no wonder Tony Blair says >'there is not a scrap of evidence....'... > > > > MMR researcher paid by vaccine makers Yes, the " big lie " theory still works just fine. And just in case anyone forgets, in America we have the FDA making sure that all our vaccines are completely safe, so OBVIOUSLY they couldn't be causing any problems! Andy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 > TO: > Health and Safety Executive Website: http://www.doh.gov.uk/index.htm > Subject; Selection Of Phil Minor To Head Study Of MMR > > How stupid can your management be to select a man (Dr. Phil Minor) with conflicted interest to perform a supposed unbiased study. You know, in the US, everyone assumes it is those downright EVIL corporate favoring, free market fanatic Republicans who do this kind of thing. Yet here we have Labour in England - who would be considered flaming commies by US political standards - pulling the same thing. Perhaps the problem isn't liberal versus conservative but letting the government spend money (on research in this case) to invent excuses for why it should be involved in inherently private health care and economic decisions? Andy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Boy this really gets my goat. Cherie Blair's urgent gynaecological matters were front page news two ago in the UK for all and sundry to read. She had a miscarriage which delayed her joining her family on the annual holiday. But Baby Blair's MMR vaccine info is top secret and nothing but nothing will drag the truth out. Reason...'what happens in our family is OUR business!' Hmmmm... [ ] UK MMR Researcher Paid By Vaccine Makers This message was posted on another autism board: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/story.html? in_review_id=675838 & in_review_text_id=647835 MMR researcher paid by vaccine makers by Maxine Frith, Medical Reporter A scientist researching the controversial MMR jab for the Government is also being employed by a drug company that makes the vaccine, the Evening Standard has learned. Campaigners who are concerned that there could be a link between MMR and autism in children said it was " disgraceful " that Dr Phil Minor was being paid by pharmaceutical giant Glaxo-Kline (GSK) while also being employed as an independent expert. Dr Minor, who works for the Government's National Institute for Biological Standards and Control (NIBSC) is also working for GSK in a legal test case being brought by eight families who say their children were damaged by MMR. Kirkbride MP said: " This news will hardly inspire public confidence. It is a pity that the Government could not find doctors who the public would believe are more open. " GSK is one of three MMR manufacturers being sued by the parents of children who were allegedly damaged by the jab. The other two companies are Aventis Pasteur MSD and Merck & Co. More than 1,000 children are involved in the legal action. Eight are being used in a legal test case due to come before the High Court in October next year. Last week it was announced that the Department of Health had given £300,000 to fund an NIBSC study which will attempt to copy research by Dr Wakefield, who has suggested that there is a link between MMR and autism. The three-year study is part of continuing research into MMR by the NIBSC. Dr Minor is a key member of the team. He is an expert virologist and also sat on the Medical Research Council's recent review body into autism which last December said that there was " no evidence " to support a link between the condition and MMR. All the experts and lay members on the review body were asked to declare their interests. In documents seen by the Evening Standard, Dr Minor said he had no commercial-or academic interestsbut under " others " stated he was an " expert adviser on molecular virology in MMR-autism cases " . He did not state whether he was working for a specific company. But today a spokesman for GSK confirmed that Dr Minor is retained by the company. Dr Minor was unavailable for comment but Dr Inglis, director of the NIBSC, said: " I would object extremely strongly to any suggestion that our work is not objective. Any implication that there is no objectivity in this study is outrageous. " However, Loch, whose six-year-old son Oliver is one of the eight children bringing the landmark legal case, said: " It's disgraceful. We have been campaigning for independent research and that is what we thought we were getting with this new study. How can we believe that this is going to be independent when one of the main researchers is obviously on the side of the drugs companies? " This research will be a whitewash. " ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 I just checked the website for the UK Ministry of Health. Quote: " Incorrect reasons for delaying or avoiding a vaccine The following are not reasons to avoid or delay a vaccine: Previous history of diseases such as pertussis, measles, rubella or mumps infection " End of Quote Why would you want to have a jab for a diseases you have already had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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