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I'm up! I feel good! I slept til 9am...couldn't get out of bed til Ralph

got home with my 1/2 n 1/2 for my coffee, so I just layed there patiently

awaiting his arrival!

Who said anything about 1 drink? I had 2, but felt like a bottle! :)

Dawn

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Dear all,

Good early morning- couldn't sleep! Dawn, I'm sure YOU

are sleeping LOL!!! The wedding date is getting so

close I'm sure you did need one! When I got married my

mother- who hates any booze made me a drink!!

I loved the heartwarming stories about your

mothers...I feel very blessed to have my Mom

still...she is so wonderful!! My husband is an LPN and

works in an Alzheimers unit - this disease is truly a

tragedy and I think they will find a cure soon...the

nursing home he works at does have a piano player and

does some special things for the elderly. The

patients love to see my boys come for a visit...they

have been visiting since they were toddlers and are

now 9 and 11!! Sally, we will share a great entrance

into 2001 - I cannot wait!!!Cheryl, congrats on the

weight loss:) Pam sounds like a fun day - hope the

jacuzzi was fun!!! Love, meg

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Lea

Sorry, I've only gotten lost there while trying to find the damn Museum of

Sciences' light show in Boston! Yet, another blonde moment! :)

BLONDIE

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Hey I was wondering if any one lived close to Providence, RI. I will be

going there Nov 29. 30 and Dec 1 for a head start confence. We will be

staying at the Weston and even though my days are planned night times

are normally pretty relaxed and easy going. I would just like to be

able to meet some people from the group and since I don't get to travel

too much thought this would be a good opprortunity.

Lea

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In a message dated 8/1/01 10:39:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

rancegang@... writes:

Darla,

My son also wore the ImpaCts prior to his implant and did extremely well with

them. If your son has only just received them, and was wearing conventional

hearing aids before, he may need an adjustment period to the ImpaCts. This

may account for him not performing well on some sub-tests and that may be

what the speech director is talking about.

I believe that so long as you feel your son derives benefit and as long as

your son is willing to go, speech therapy may be a very valuable tool for

him. If your son is doing well with speech production then something must be

working!

Also, speech therapy is not just about articulation, it is about language

also and making sure our deaf kids are no more delayed than they have to be

given their losses and amplification history!

If you want your son to continue, stick to your guns, or perhaps get a second

opinion!

In the meantime, until you talk with this supervisor, try not to worry!

It sounds like you are doing all the right things so far!

Best of luck, Orla

Mom to deaf son, almost 8 (OH the excitement), uses oral communication with

oral people, uses sign with signing people and understands some cues but

prefers sign! (A Mom who also uses all the tools in the tool box)

> She said something about making sure

> these hearing aids my son has were the best for him, and they're new!

> Not to mention I gave a copy of the audiogram to the office, which shows

> great results for his loss. They're the Impact transpositional aids, and

> his audiologist has been pleased with the results.

Orla

" Education is not the filling of a bucket but the lighting of a fire "

W.B.Yeats

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I can only say that I strongly believe in second opinions. But attend your

meeting with the SLP and see what she says and keep us posted. Martha

At 10:26 AM 8/1/01 -0400, you wrote:

>My son has been undergoing testing by his private speech pathologist, and

>something that pathologist's supervisor said concerns me. We're actually

>supposed to meet soon about the results, so maybe I'll get a clearer

>picture, but she seemed to be saying there might be " no use " in

>continuing with articulation and speech therapy because of my son's

>deafness(he's severe to profound). She said something about making sure

>these hearing aids my son has were the best for him, and they're new!

>Not to mention I gave a copy of the audiogram to the office, which shows

>great results for his loss. They're the Impact transpositional aids, and

>his audiologist has been pleased with the results. My son is also

>receiving some auditory training, because I want him to be able to use

>what residual hearing he does have in situations where that would help

>him--which are many. My son's mode of communication is not

>Auditory-Verbal, but I think using every tool available to you is

>important when you're communicating in a world where the minority signs

>or cues (the hearing world). He was getting auditory training in Texas

>before we moved to Georgia, and did well. Here they don't seem to value

>it as much unless you have mild losses are wear a cochlear implant.

>

>Along with Cued Speech at home and school, my son is learning signs to

>communicate with deaf peers who sign. So, I'm trying to give him all the

>tools he'll need. But I've never heard a speech therapist imply that my

>son was too deaf for articulation work to be of any use. That's

>ludicrous! For one thing, speech is about production, and my son does

>well with that, despite his loss. Maybe I misunderstood this woman, and

>I can fill you in later when we've had the meeting, but I'm concerned to

>say the least.

>

>Darla

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Thanks, Orla. Yes, language is very important to us, as well--more so

than speech, as a matter of fact. Our son's language is right where it

needs to be. I'll have to bring up what you said about the ImpaCts, but

our audiologist is going to be involved in the meeting by phone, as well,

so she might be able to address those issues, too. Thanks for your

input!

Darla

On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:07:54 EDT OMAC353@... writes:

> In a message dated 8/1/01 10:39:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> rancegang@... writes:

>

> Darla,

>

> My son also wore the ImpaCts prior to his implant and did extremely

> well with

> them. If your son has only just received them, and was wearing

> conventional

> hearing aids before, he may need an adjustment period to the

> ImpaCts. This

> may account for him not performing well on some sub-tests and that

> may be

> what the speech director is talking about.

>

> I believe that so long as you feel your son derives benefit and as

> long as

> your son is willing to go, speech therapy may be a very valuable

> tool for

> him. If your son is doing well with speech production then

> something must be

> working!

>

> Also, speech therapy is not just about articulation, it is about

> language

> also and making sure our deaf kids are no more delayed than they

> have to be

> given their losses and amplification history!

>

> If you want your son to continue, stick to your guns, or perhaps get

> a second

> opinion!

>

> In the meantime, until you talk with this supervisor, try not to

> worry!

> It sounds like you are doing all the right things so far!

>

> Best of luck, Orla

>

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> she seemed to be saying there might be " no use " in

> continuing with articulation and speech therapy because of my son's

> deafness(he's severe to profound).

Degree of hearing loss may not have much to do with a child's ability to learn

to use

their residual hearing, or to learn to talk. My son has excellent articulation

(as those

on this list who have met him will tell you), and uses his residual hearing -

and since he

was 2 1/2 years old has had a severe to profound hearing loss. He's 14 now. But,

the best

indicator is your son. Is he making progress? Does he want to continue?

> Here they don't seem to value

> it as much unless you have mild losses are wear a cochlear implant.

It's like that in some parts of Texas too. ;-)

> Maybe I misunderstood this woman, and

> I can fill you in later when we've had the meeting, but I'm concerned to

> say the least.

So one of 2 things can happen. You either misunderstood this woman - in which

case there

is no harm done, or you did understand her, in which case you've gathered

information and

can present arguments against discontinuing these services should she truly be

suggesting

it. Either way, you're ahead of the game. Most folks get this type of thing just

thrown at

them and are so charged with emotions when it happens that they're at a

disadvantage. Now

if she throws it at you, you can be prepared.

-Kay

Who's hoping you misunderstood, but fears you probably didn't.

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Hi, I was sort of told the same thing about my daughter's speech. I've been

asking my school district for summer speech therapy, yet they were talking

about possibly weaning her from her once a week speech therapy during the

year. I do know that many people who are deaf speak with some speech

errors, but how do we know when our children have reached their potential?

My daughter's speech got worse last summer without therapy and has not

gotten back up to where it was, but then again, her hearing got worse as

well. I asked either/both this group or my DeafIllinois group about this

and they said you do as much speech therapy as you find useful, and if you

stop, once in a while do a " tune up " . I know my daughter made some gains

last year, but not as much as I would have liked. My biggest fear is having

her speech get worse. The therapy is the reminder to try. Maybe in a few

years every other week would be enough of a reminder.

Randie Chubin

Margie (7) moderate/moderate to severe, EVAS

Eli (4) and Mollie (1), hearing

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:26:27 -0400

My son has been undergoing testing by his private speech pathologist, and

something that pathologist's supervisor said concerns me. We're actually

supposed to meet soon about the results, so maybe I'll get a clearer

picture, but she seemed to be saying there might be " no use " in

continuing with articulation and speech therapy because of my son's

deafness(he's severe to profound). She said something about making sure

these hearing aids my son has were the best for him, and they're new!

Not to mention I gave a copy of the audiogram to the office, which shows

great results for his loss. They're the Impact transpositional aids, and

his audiologist has been pleased with the results. My son is also

receiving some auditory training, because I want him to be able to use

what residual hearing he does have in situations where that would help

him--which are many. My son's mode of communication is not

Auditory-Verbal, but I think using every tool available to you is

important when you're communicating in a world where the minority signs

or cues (the hearing world). He was getting auditory training in Texas

before we moved to Georgia, and did well. Here they don't seem to value

it as much unless you have mild losses are wear a cochlear implant.

Along with Cued Speech at home and school, my son is learning signs to

communicate with deaf peers who sign. So, I'm trying to give him all the

tools he'll need. But I've never heard a speech therapist imply that my

son was too deaf for articulation work to be of any use. That's

ludicrous! For one thing, speech is about production, and my son does

well with that, despite his loss. Maybe I misunderstood this woman, and

I can fill you in later when we've had the meeting, but I'm concerned to

say the least.

Darla

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Zander is very oral. In fact, unless he has his aide on or you knew already

he had a hearing problem, you could not really tell. Most would think he was

just not paying attention to them. He lip reads or reads body language to

see if he should answer yes or no a lot, or watches what the others are

doing and follows their lead. He was taken out of speech last year, now

receives no speech at all. This upset me greatly and when I called an IEP

meeting on it I was told he self-corrected the errors he had. I told them

yes, because his mother makes him do it at home! I lost the battle to have

him receive speech, but I let myself lose it as I know there is a great

shortage here of speech patholgists and there are children who are in worse

speech difficulties than Zander that are not getting any speech at all due

to no room in the classes. (These are hearing students.) The district is

doing all they can to get more speech therapists, and it is a problem for

most schools. But, when I agreed to not fight them on it I put in the

stipulation on his IEP that he be screened for speech twice a year and be

re-instituted if his current speech level drops. They agreed and he is

screened in October and April. Deb

<<Hi, I was sort of told the same thing about my daughter's speech. I've

been

asking my school district for summer speech therapy, yet they were talking

about possibly weaning her from her once a week speech therapy during the

year. I do know that many people who are deaf speak with some speech

errors, but how do we know when our children have reached their potential?

My daughter's speech got worse last summer without therapy and has not

gotten back up to where it was, but then again, her hearing got worse as

well. I asked either/both this group or my DeafIllinois group about this

and they said you do as much speech therapy as you find useful, and if you

stop, once in a while do a " tune up " . I know my daughter made some gains

last year, but not as much as I would have liked. My biggest fear is having

her speech get worse. The therapy is the reminder to try. Maybe in a few

years every other week would be enough of a reminder.>>

Deb Cawley

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Janice,

Thanks for your email on adding a section for legal lawsuits.

First of all, we need to ask some of our "legal" members about what we are able to mention regarding our lawsuits. If we are able to, we can start another database and add some information which could help others in this route. This database can be as discreet as possible, ie not adding any names of members or no doctors etc etc. I'm not sure what we can or cannot do or say, but I would be cautious as to what to put. I did contact one member once who was the first member I knew that won out of court and she said that her attorney has told her that she is limited to what she can say because of the agreement they signed to settle out of court. That is a bummer really but I can understand why. I suppose at this point we could add under plans/notes that that member is either suing or has sued and then perhaps add OOC (out of court) to show that it was settled out of court.

Anyone?? Please join us in this discussion to add your views or ideas. It would be interesting to read how many OOC cases there are after all. It just might prove to us that they do realise that they acted wrongfully and an OOC decision goes to prove it.

Poly

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HI Crystal,

My son is 8, diagnosed with a mild loss at 3 and subsequently progressed

to a profound loss over four years. He recieved an implant last summer and is

just doing great. He too was considered a good candidate as he has so much

language and such good oral communication skills due to his pattern of loss. In

fact, he was such a good hearing aid user (with the ImpaCt aids) that he was a

borderline candidate for a while until he lost the last of his residual hearing

down at 500 hz.

I am not familiar with the CI center you are going to as I am from KY, but I

just wanted you to know that our experiences were similar and that we could not

be happier with the decision we made to implant. If you have any questions,

please feel free to email me directly.

Regards,

Trish Freeman

Mom to (8, CII May 2001), (6, hearing) and (5, Impact Aids,

CI surgery scheduled 3/28 !!)

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My name is Crystal and I have been part of the group for quite a

while, although I haven't posted in a quite a while. I live in

Maine. I do, however, read the digests regularly. I have 2

children, Taryn (12 and hearing) and (9 and HoH). I will

give a bit of a background on . Ben was diagnosed at approx.

18 months with a hearing loss and aided shortly thereafter. He did

quite well with his aids until he was 5 years old when he had a

sudden drop in his hearing. At that time, his ENT ran all sorts of

tests and put him on prednisone immediately, for about 3 weeks. For

some reason not really clear to me, this brought his hearing back up,

almost to where it had been. Over the next 3 years, the levels

stayed fairly level. Then, since this past September, he has had 3

more sudden drops, with prednisone bringing it partway up. The most

recent drop was the worse one and the medication did not work as

well. Right now, Ben had a profound loss in his left ear and a

severe/profound loss in his right. So, his ENT is referring Ben to

Boston Children's Hospital for an evaluation, possibly for a cochlear

implant. The ENT says that Ben has such a good language base that

this may be the way to go. My questions is, does anyone have any

experience with Boston Children's Hospital? His appt. is with Dr.

Licamelli on April 11. What usually happens at a CI evaluation? How

do you choose the brand of CI that is best? I have been doing alot

of research, but it just gets confusing. We do know that we want him

to have the BTE processor because right now at school, he uses a

Phonak Solaris FM and he really hates the wires.

My husband and I have so many questions and we really want to go to

this appt. prepared.

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<<At that time, his ENT ran all sorts of

tests and put him on prednisone immediately, for about 3 weeks. For

some reason not really clear to me, this brought his hearing back up,

almost to where it had been.>>

Did the tests that were run on your son show anything? Steroids (prednisone)

are a common treatment for children who have EVAS (enlarged vestibular aqueduct

syndrome) after a drop in hearing and the " sudden drops " you mentioned are also

a symptom of that condition. If you are considering a CI for Ben, you might

want to further investigate this as there has been a small amount of literature

about additional precautions to be taken during surgery on children with EVAS.

Carol - mom to , 5.10, mod to severe/profound, EVAS, HA's

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Hi ,

Welcome to the list! I'm mom to Demi, 9 years old and diagnosed when she

was 6 years old -- also through a school screening. We also have three

younger, very loud, hearing children. Demi's loss slopes from mild (low

freq) to severe/profound (hi freq). Demi also wears aids bilaterally and we

noticed a great improvement after she began wearing them regularly (which

took a little while and a few, minor bribes -- yes, I admit it...I'm not

above bribing my children from time to time). :-)

Pam

> Hello, all. My name is , I am the parent to a wonderful 7 year

> old, , who was recently diagnosised with mild hearing loss.

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Hi ,

I just joined a few days ago myself. I love it here, I am learning soo much.

My son is 3. He has a mild to moderate hearing loss. He's getting his hearing

aides this Friday.

Welcome to the group.

Kathy

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Hello, all. My name is , I am the parent to a wonderful 7 year

old, , who was recently diagnosised with mild hearing loss.

To be honest with you all the terms are new to me (although I am

learning rapidly). Basically, failed the hearing screening

at school, I thought we were going to the ENT to see about tubes in

his ears and learned he has a hearing loss in both ears. He now has

hearing aids and we have began to see wonderful improvement in his

abilities in school. He always struggled, which made no sense to me

as I knew he was intelligent and would be able to do the work with me

in the evenings at home. I had no idea how much a mild hearing loss

could affect someone. Thanks for the group. I appreciate the

support.

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> I was wondering if any of your children complain

> of a ringing in their ears.

When JD was much younger (he's now 15) he used to complain that he heard

monsters at night. Knowing that his hearing aids were out, I asked him if he

was sure. He insisted he could hear them. I asked him what it sounded like

and he answered " shhhhhhhhhhhhh " . A couple later, another parent said they

suffered with it and asked if anybody's kids also had to deal with it. It

made me think of what JD had said. Since his language base was better than

it was a couple years ago, I asked him if he heard sounds he knew he

shouldn't when his hearing aids were out, and he answered yes. That, and the

fact that the 'monster' was making one of the classic sounds tinnitus can

have, confirmed it for me. He still has problems with it off and on,

especially when trying to listen for very soft sounds - like sound booth

testing and ci mapping. Sometimes he's very good about it and will figure

out ways to work around it, other times it's very frustrating for him. The

only time he really seems bothered by it though is while he's listening for

those very soft sounds.

Hugs,

Kay

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> Way to Go!!! That's Wonderful.

It could be because the head of Audiology was very upset when I told him

what we had been told and how long we had been questioning JD's hearing. I'm

sure between the both of us raising heck about it, it was easier to change

policy than to put up with us. ;-)

Hugs,

Kay

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OK, I have some time this morning so here are a few goals for pragmatics

from the IEP Companion:

http://www.linguisystems.com/itemdetail.php?id=104

So, if your school won't even consider teaching social skills (shame on them

if they don't), here are some ideas on approaching it from a 'pragmatics'

viewpoint:

From the Classroom Communication Skills area:

Changes communication styles depending on the listener and situation.

Watches the listener's reactions to check for understanding.

While working on an assignment in a small group, takes turns appropriately

in conversation.

When interrupting, uses politeness markers appropriately.

From the School Survival Skills area:

Knows how to participate appropriately with peers in games, sports, and

discussions.

From the Conversational Skills area:

When playing with objects with peers, describes past and present events

associated with the objects. (I saw a really big plane yesterday.)

While participating in playground activities, appropppriately answers yes/no

or wh-questions. (Where is ? She's over there.)

While playing with peers, asks a question to clarify something (What did you

say?)

When approaching a group of students on the playground, gets attention

appropriately. (Hey, guys. What's going on?)

Hugs,

Kay

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In a message dated 3/3/2003 11:24:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,

trautmanfamily@... writes:

> We went grocery shopping and you know it costs

> a lot to eat healhty!

I agree, but it is worth the extra cost to me. I find I have to watch how

many fresh fruits and veggies I buy at one time because they are costly and

they are easy to let ruin!

Romey

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In a message dated 3/3/03 10:24:08 AM Central Standard Time,

trautmanfamily@... writes:

> She wonders why she does

> this...everytime she looses a lot, she just gives up and climbs back

> up. Have any of you done this? Why would she all of a sudden stop

> and just not care anymore?

>

Maybe she unconsciously perceives the lifestyle changes she has to make to

lose weight as a temporary ordeal and after she loses the weight, she

" rewards " herself by going back to her old habits?

She could also be setting her goal too low. Most height/weight charts are

skewed towards the matchsticks. I happened to inherit my bone structure from

the kind of women who went out and helped pull the plow when the horse got

sick. No Twiggies in that crew. My ideal weight is 15 pounds more than the

chart says it should be. I looked good, I felt good, and I could maintain it

without making myself crazy. On those few occasions when I got down to the

chart weight, I felt unhealthy and started eating. Unfortunately, when that

happens you don't tend to stop at your healthy weight, you just keep going

until you're bigger than when you started. :o(

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You are so right....I don't know why I'm worried about getting

there 'first'. LOL Could it be I'm too competitive? I'd hate to think

it's because I'm shallow. LOL

> In a message dated 3/3/2003 10:24:15 AM Central Standard Time,

> trautmanfamily@s... writes:

>

> > She wonders why she does

> > this...everytime she looses a lot, she just gives up and climbs

back

> > up. Have any of you done this? Why would she all of a sudden

stop

> > and just not care anymore?

> >

> >

> >

>

> First of all ..forgive yourself on the 'jealousy'. We all fall into

the

> 'grass is always greener trap' on occassion...even w/ friends that

we want

> and hope the very best for!! Good for you on only a little

> chocolate..WOOHOO!! Thats a victory gal!!

>

> About your friend...Im sure shes just being doubly hard on herself

b/c she

> sees what shes already accomplished and maybe is just hitting a

plateau or

> just 'sick of thinking about it SO much!!'...know what I mean? She

will be ok

> with you as a supportive friend and you will BOTH!!! reach your

ultimate

> goals!! Right? RIGHT!!!!

>

> HUGS!!

> Shan

>

>

>

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I agree, i couldnt weigh/measure food either, too much trouble! i

do keep track though using the w.w point system. I'm not a member

but my parents are so they are somewhat my coaches when it comes

to " how many points is this? " :) it's easier. the only weighing and

measureing i do is with my own body! hehe i measure and weigh myself

each week. i did this once before so it shouldnt be to hard to get

back in the habit. :)

> I didn't explain myself too well....lol I should have mentioned

she

> was the one asking me why she'd stop caring....etc....she was very

> upset and very disgusted that she'd gone up again, but said she

has

> lost all motivation to do anything..

>

> I couldn't do the measuring or weighing of food either...I have

> measured out what a suggested serving of rice looks like on my

plate

> so I can remember that....I couldn't buy special food either like

> shakes or bars...that would totally not work for me. We just

bought

> a lot of wholegrain items like brown basmatti rice (instead of

white)

> and many whole grain cereals etc. My PCOS book talks about the

zone

> too. I'm glad it's working for you!

>

>

>

>

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Don’t beat yourself up about being jealous of your

friend. I know I have felt that way a million times

in the past and I don’t just stop at one chocolate bar

either! I think you handle it all great and at least

you never took it out on your friend like I have in

the past.

Also I don’t think she has stopped caring about her

diet or her weight etc. If she had she wouldn’t view

it as a problem anymore. I lost over 40lbs and got

down to near healthy weight but recently I just fell

right off the wagon and haven’t stopped eating since.

I have even gained 5lbs in the past week which is just

ridiculous. Maybe your friend binges too? If she

never found a weight loss plan that she could stick to

properly and struggled herself down to her lower

weight she could have fallen back into a bad cycle of

not being able to stop eating, then comfort eating

because she feels bad about eating, then eating some

more because she might as well, then maybe even eating

more before she goes to bed because she can start

again in the morning! Then in the morning things go

wrong. You end up cheating or giving in or craving

and it all starts again. It’s like a war with

yourself that no one else even sees.

Bitsy

--- " allison19752001 "

wrote: > But what a crappy

friend to be

> that

> > jealous hey? She's struggled with her weight for

> as long as I

> have and has gone on many yo-yo diets and has lost

> and regained the

> same twenty pounds countless times. She wonders why

> she does

> this...everytime she looses a lot, she just gives up

> and climbs back

> up. Have any of you done this? Why would she all

> of a sudden stop

> and just not care anymore?

>

>

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Yes, she's a binge eater. We talked about that too. I also

suggested that maybe she's afraid that once she meets her goal, what

will she have to focus on instead of her weight? Which I think is

sort of true for her. I hope she jumps back on the wagon.

It was actually one Ferero Rocher instead of 3 or 4, so I'm very glad

I didnt' go overboard.

I think I realize that jealousy is normal now! Thanks.

> But what a crappy

> friend to be

> > that

> > > jealous hey? She's struggled with her weight for

> > as long as I

> > have and has gone on many yo-yo diets and has lost

> > and regained the

> > same twenty pounds countless times. She wonders why

> > she does

> > this...everytime she looses a lot, she just gives up

> > and climbs back

> > up. Have any of you done this? Why would she all

> > of a sudden stop

> > and just not care anymore?

> >

> >

>

>

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When my calcium bottomed the ENT that did my surgery called in my endro dr. I'm not sure what a calcium specialists is. My endro does all of my blood work to keep a check on the calcium levels. When I first started taking calcium I was taking a RX brand that wasn't working. My endro told me to start taking OSCAL Calcium and it worked much better. I'm not sure what the difference is, but I saw a great improvment.

Jeannie

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Jeanie, I also take those same things but they are still trying to findthe right dose of each. I have another question, do you think i shouldspend the money to go to a calcium specialist?

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