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What an uncaring mama you are!

Poor . No chance at a beautiful smile. How will he ever make it

in the movies now? Condemned to a life of snaggles.

I cannot believe that. I can't wait to take a copy of it to my ortho.

I think he and my surgeon will both roar.

They didn't by any chance suggest that orthognathic surgery was also

indicated, did they? Or is a young enough patient that they

thought the braces alone could handle it?

Do you share your Lortab with him? Does he share his with you?

Just wondering... Inquiring minds, you know...

Cammie

> Hey all,

>

> For those of you who remember, I had taken my dog () in to the

> vet because he had been pawing at his mouth and crying/whining a

> lot. I thought that it might be fleas, although I couldn't see

any.

> Turns out one of the dog's lower (canine, not joking here) teeth

were

> growing into his upper gum, causing pain and inflammation. The

> veterinarian looked me straight in the eye and told me that he was

> referring me to a canine orthodontist (located approximately one

hour

> away from where I live).

>

> Since both I(me?)and my teenage stepson are currently in braces,

> there was no way in h*** that I was going to lay out any more money

> on orthodontia, even if it is for man's best friend. So I took him

> to another vet for a second opinion. He gave me two choices (for

> those of you who are still following this ridiculous but completely

> true story): (1) doggy ortho which he estimated at about $2-

3,000.00,

> (2) pull the offending tooth, (3) file the tooth halfway down and

cap

> it (I kid you not). Needless to say #1 was completely out of the

> question. #2 would cost approximately $300.00 and #3 around

> $500.00. When I asked the doctor what the benefit of capping the

> dog's tooth would be he said " purely cosmetic " . When I told him

that

> the dog didn't smile much anyway he said that there was a

possibility

> that 's tongue might hang out of his mouth after the tooth was

> removed. When I called my husband at the office to help me choose

> between options #2 and 3 he told me to choose #2 and have the

doctor

> pull the tongue as well. I think he was kidding.

>

> To make a horribly long story end, had his tooth removed

today

> and is doing nicely. He and I are both on painkillers and a soft

> diet.

>

> Cheryl

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Hey, Cheryl...

Glad that is doing well!! I have a cat who has horrible gums,

she has lost 3 of her canines as a result. I was also warned that

her tongue may hang out...but, it's never happened. Funny that my

vet didn't recommend kitty orthodontics! ; )

Take care,

> Hey all,

>

> For those of you who remember, I had taken my dog () in to

the

> vet because he had been pawing at his mouth and crying/whining a

> lot. I thought that it might be fleas, although I couldn't see

any.

> Turns out one of the dog's lower (canine, not joking here) teeth

were

> growing into his upper gum, causing pain and inflammation. The

> veterinarian looked me straight in the eye and told me that he was

> referring me to a canine orthodontist (located approximately one

hour

> away from where I live).

>

> Since both I(me?)and my teenage stepson are currently in braces,

> there was no way in h*** that I was going to lay out any more

money

> on orthodontia, even if it is for man's best friend. So I took

him

> to another vet for a second opinion. He gave me two choices (for

> those of you who are still following this ridiculous but

completely

> true story): (1) doggy ortho which he estimated at about $2-

3,000.00,

> (2) pull the offending tooth, (3) file the tooth halfway down and

cap

> it (I kid you not). Needless to say #1 was completely out of the

> question. #2 would cost approximately $300.00 and #3 around

> $500.00. When I asked the doctor what the benefit of capping the

> dog's tooth would be he said " purely cosmetic " . When I told him

that

> the dog didn't smile much anyway he said that there was a

possibility

> that 's tongue might hang out of his mouth after the tooth

was

> removed. When I called my husband at the office to help me choose

> between options #2 and 3 he told me to choose #2 and have the

doctor

> pull the tongue as well. I think he was kidding.

>

> To make a horribly long story end, had his tooth removed

today

> and is doing nicely. He and I are both on painkillers and a soft

> diet.

>

> Cheryl

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Sue for anti-feline discrimination! What's good for the dog is

certainly good for the cat!

And do you brush her teeth three times a day? (I've had vets

recommend that to me. Do you spose they've ever tried to brush a

cat's teeth?)

Cammie

> > Hey all,

> >

> > For those of you who remember, I had taken my dog () in to

> the

> > vet because he had been pawing at his mouth and crying/whining a

> > lot. I thought that it might be fleas, although I couldn't see

> any.

> > Turns out one of the dog's lower (canine, not joking here) teeth

> were

> > growing into his upper gum, causing pain and inflammation. The

> > veterinarian looked me straight in the eye and told me that he

was

> > referring me to a canine orthodontist (located approximately one

> hour

> > away from where I live).

> >

> > Since both I(me?)and my teenage stepson are currently in braces,

> > there was no way in h*** that I was going to lay out any more

> money

> > on orthodontia, even if it is for man's best friend. So I took

> him

> > to another vet for a second opinion. He gave me two choices (for

> > those of you who are still following this ridiculous but

> completely

> > true story): (1) doggy ortho which he estimated at about $2-

> 3,000.00,

> > (2) pull the offending tooth, (3) file the tooth halfway down and

> cap

> > it (I kid you not). Needless to say #1 was completely out of the

> > question. #2 would cost approximately $300.00 and #3 around

> > $500.00. When I asked the doctor what the benefit of capping

the

> > dog's tooth would be he said " purely cosmetic " . When I told him

> that

> > the dog didn't smile much anyway he said that there was a

> possibility

> > that 's tongue might hang out of his mouth after the tooth

> was

> > removed. When I called my husband at the office to help me

choose

> > between options #2 and 3 he told me to choose #2 and have the

> doctor

> > pull the tongue as well. I think he was kidding.

> >

> > To make a horribly long story end, had his tooth removed

> today

> > and is doing nicely. He and I are both on painkillers and a soft

> > diet.

> >

> > Cheryl

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-All I can say is oh my golly jeez! What an unbelievable story! Who'd

thunk there was such treatment for a dog!

Marsha

-- In orthognathicsurgerysupport@y..., " cshecmia " <cshecmia@a...>

wrote:

> Hey all,

>

> For those of you who remember, I had taken my dog () in to the

> vet because he had been pawing at his mouth and crying/whining a

> lot. I thought that it might be fleas, although I couldn't see

any.

> Turns out one of the dog's lower (canine, not joking here) teeth

were

> growing into his upper gum, causing pain and inflammation. The

> veterinarian looked me straight in the eye and told me that he was

> referring me to a canine orthodontist (located approximately one

hour

> away from where I live).

>

> Since both I(me?)and my teenage stepson are currently in braces,

> there was no way in h*** that I was going to lay out any more money

> on orthodontia, even if it is for man's best friend. So I took him

> to another vet for a second opinion. He gave me two choices (for

> those of you who are still following this ridiculous but completely

> true story): (1) doggy ortho which he estimated at about $2-

3,000.00,

> (2) pull the offending tooth, (3) file the tooth halfway down and

cap

> it (I kid you not). Needless to say #1 was completely out of the

> question. #2 would cost approximately $300.00 and #3 around

> $500.00. When I asked the doctor what the benefit of capping the

> dog's tooth would be he said " purely cosmetic " . When I told him

that

> the dog didn't smile much anyway he said that there was a

possibility

> that 's tongue might hang out of his mouth after the tooth was

> removed. When I called my husband at the office to help me choose

> between options #2 and 3 he told me to choose #2 and have the

doctor

> pull the tongue as well. I think he was kidding.

>

> To make a horribly long story end, had his tooth removed

today

> and is doing nicely. He and I are both on painkillers and a soft

> diet.

>

> Cheryl

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hehe...Cammie!!

It certainly seems like discrimination, doesn't it?!?! I have

actually had them recommend brushing!! And, I doubt that any of

them have tried it!! ; )

> > > Hey all,

> > >

> > > For those of you who remember, I had taken my dog () in

to

> > the

> > > vet because he had been pawing at his mouth and crying/whining

a

> > > lot. I thought that it might be fleas, although I couldn't

see

> > any.

> > > Turns out one of the dog's lower (canine, not joking here)

teeth

> > were

> > > growing into his upper gum, causing pain and inflammation.

The

> > > veterinarian looked me straight in the eye and told me that he

> was

> > > referring me to a canine orthodontist (located approximately

one

> > hour

> > > away from where I live).

> > >

> > > Since both I(me?)and my teenage stepson are currently in

braces,

> > > there was no way in h*** that I was going to lay out any more

> > money

> > > on orthodontia, even if it is for man's best friend. So I

took

> > him

> > > to another vet for a second opinion. He gave me two choices

(for

> > > those of you who are still following this ridiculous but

> > completely

> > > true story): (1) doggy ortho which he estimated at about $2-

> > 3,000.00,

> > > (2) pull the offending tooth, (3) file the tooth halfway down

and

> > cap

> > > it (I kid you not). Needless to say #1 was completely out of

the

> > > question. #2 would cost approximately $300.00 and #3 around

> > > $500.00. When I asked the doctor what the benefit of capping

> the

> > > dog's tooth would be he said " purely cosmetic " . When I told

him

> > that

> > > the dog didn't smile much anyway he said that there was a

> > possibility

> > > that 's tongue might hang out of his mouth after the

tooth

> > was

> > > removed. When I called my husband at the office to help me

> choose

> > > between options #2 and 3 he told me to choose #2 and have the

> > doctor

> > > pull the tongue as well. I think he was kidding.

> > >

> > > To make a horribly long story end, had his tooth removed

> > today

> > > and is doing nicely. He and I are both on painkillers and a

soft

> > > diet.

> > >

> > > Cheryl

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Hey, Cheryl!

Maybe you need to get his own yahoo handle so he can come on

and whine along with us.

Sorry your poor fellow had to lose a tooth. I have heard that pets

can be expensive in all departments, though, and it's why I

personally don't have one, because I probably wouldn't take care of

it. I barely take care of myself.

We got a real chuckle out of your story, at poor 's expense.

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I hate to take amusement from 's unfortunate situation (cause we

all know what he's going through - doggie or not), but your quip to the

vet about not smiling much gave me quite a giggle.

Thanks for the diversion from our oh-so-serious analysis of our own

situations.

> Hey all,

>

> For those of you who remember, I had taken my dog () in to the

> vet because he had been pawing at his mouth and crying/whining a

> lot. I thought that it might be fleas, although I couldn't see any.

> Turns out one of the dog's lower (canine, not joking here) teeth were

> growing into his upper gum, causing pain and inflammation. The

> veterinarian looked me straight in the eye and told me that he was

> referring me to a canine orthodontist (located approximately one hour

> away from where I live).

>

> Since both I(me?)and my teenage stepson are currently in braces,

> there was no way in h*** that I was going to lay out any more money

> on orthodontia, even if it is for man's best friend. So I took him

> to another vet for a second opinion. He gave me two choices (for

> those of you who are still following this ridiculous but completely

> true story): (1) doggy ortho which he estimated at about $2-3,000.00,

> (2) pull the offending tooth, (3) file the tooth halfway down and cap

> it (I kid you not). Needless to say #1 was completely out of the

> question. #2 would cost approximately $300.00 and #3 around

> $500.00. When I asked the doctor what the benefit of capping the

> dog's tooth would be he said " purely cosmetic " . When I told him that

> the dog didn't smile much anyway he said that there was a possibility

> that 's tongue might hang out of his mouth after the tooth was

> removed. When I called my husband at the office to help me choose

> between options #2 and 3 he told me to choose #2 and have the doctor

> pull the tongue as well. I think he was kidding.

>

> To make a horribly long story end, had his tooth removed today

> and is doing nicely. He and I are both on painkillers and a soft

> diet.

>

> Cheryl

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Cheryl,

I hope is feeling better. It is always heartbreaking to have a

procedure done to our pets. When Sandy (she's 12 yrs old) goes to the vet

for a cleaning she might lose a tooth. First time she lost 3 teeth! I know

she needs to go for another cleaning. But am trying to keep purse strings a

little tight so I can keep on stashing money away for us when hubby takes

his leave of absence when I have my procedures done. Now she has no upper

front teeth (one fell out a few years ago when the dog next door jumped the

fence and attacked our 1 yr old - at the time - shih tzu Wilbur.) Now

Wilbur is 5 and the dog next door and it's family moved this past year. We

put up a stockade fence as soon as we could after Wilbur was attacked by

Dottie. She does have some side teeth gone, but she still smiles her

biggest widest smile. And her tongue doesn't hang out the side of her mouth

when she smiles or laughs.. I'll explain how dogs laugh once you stop

giggling over Wilbur! lol

Have fun! hug for me....

Carin

>

>Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] Re: update on the dog's

>treatment plan

>Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:34:14 -0000

>

>I hate to take amusement from 's unfortunate situation (cause we

>all know what he's going through - doggie or not), but your quip to the

>vet about not smiling much gave me quite a giggle.

>

>Thanks for the diversion from our oh-so-serious analysis of our own

>situations.

>

>

>

>

> > Hey all,

> >

> > For those of you who remember, I had taken my dog () in to the

> > vet because he had been pawing at his mouth and crying/whining a

> > lot. I thought that it might be fleas, although I couldn't see any.

> > Turns out one of the dog's lower (canine, not joking here) teeth were

> > growing into his upper gum, causing pain and inflammation. The

> > veterinarian looked me straight in the eye and told me that he was

> > referring me to a canine orthodontist (located approximately one hour

> > away from where I live).

> >

> > Since both I(me?)and my teenage stepson are currently in braces,

> > there was no way in h*** that I was going to lay out any more money

> > on orthodontia, even if it is for man's best friend. So I took him

> > to another vet for a second opinion. He gave me two choices (for

> > those of you who are still following this ridiculous but completely

> > true story): (1) doggy ortho which he estimated at about $2-3,000.00,

> > (2) pull the offending tooth, (3) file the tooth halfway down and cap

> > it (I kid you not). Needless to say #1 was completely out of the

> > question. #2 would cost approximately $300.00 and #3 around

> > $500.00. When I asked the doctor what the benefit of capping the

> > dog's tooth would be he said " purely cosmetic " . When I told him that

> > the dog didn't smile much anyway he said that there was a possibility

> > that 's tongue might hang out of his mouth after the tooth was

> > removed. When I called my husband at the office to help me choose

> > between options #2 and 3 he told me to choose #2 and have the doctor

> > pull the tongue as well. I think he was kidding.

> >

> > To make a horribly long story end, had his tooth removed today

> > and is doing nicely. He and I are both on painkillers and a soft

> > diet.

> >

> > Cheryl

>

>

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Carin,

Maybe 's been depressed all these years? ;)

So far his tongue is staying where it belongs. I hope your dogs and

your family continue to be well. I know about saving money for the

procedure. Mine was $8,000.00 out of pocket, not including

orthodontia of course. And this was after being covered by

insurance. I don't regret going to my docs though, even if they were

out of network.

Cheryl

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I had to have my own dog story in here, I have a mixed rat/jack

russell named Mitzie who has been laying between my feet since I got

home a couple nights ago. She sleeps everywhere with me and even got

me to toss the old ball for her last night in the living room (hey,

it was only like 7-8 feet, but she was still enthusiatic about it).

She growls at anyone that comes near, like my own little living

security blanket, whenever I'm sleeping. All my animals are being

very well behaved and cordial, a total turn around since they are

normally rambunctious and tear up the house on a daily basis. Even my

two younger cats who like to race up and down the stairs half the

night have been sleeping on the couch with me in a very sedate

manner. It's nice to have the pets behave when you feel crappy.

J.

> > > Hey all,

> > >

> > > For those of you who remember, I had taken my dog () in to

the

> > > vet because he had been pawing at his mouth and crying/whining a

> > > lot. I thought that it might be fleas, although I couldn't see

any.

> > > Turns out one of the dog's lower (canine, not joking here)

teeth were

> > > growing into his upper gum, causing pain and inflammation. The

> > > veterinarian looked me straight in the eye and told me that he

was

> > > referring me to a canine orthodontist (located approximately

one hour

> > > away from where I live).

> > >

> > > Since both I(me?)and my teenage stepson are currently in braces,

> > > there was no way in h*** that I was going to lay out any more

money

> > > on orthodontia, even if it is for man's best friend. So I took

him

> > > to another vet for a second opinion. He gave me two choices

(for

> > > those of you who are still following this ridiculous but

completely

> > > true story): (1) doggy ortho which he estimated at about $2-

3,000.00,

> > > (2) pull the offending tooth, (3) file the tooth halfway down

and cap

> > > it (I kid you not). Needless to say #1 was completely out of

the

> > > question. #2 would cost approximately $300.00 and #3 around

> > > $500.00. When I asked the doctor what the benefit of capping

the

> > > dog's tooth would be he said " purely cosmetic " . When I told

him that

> > > the dog didn't smile much anyway he said that there was a

possibility

> > > that 's tongue might hang out of his mouth after the tooth

was

> > > removed. When I called my husband at the office to help me

choose

> > > between options #2 and 3 he told me to choose #2 and have the

doctor

> > > pull the tongue as well. I think he was kidding.

> > >

> > > To make a horribly long story end, had his tooth removed

today

> > > and is doing nicely. He and I are both on painkillers and a

soft

> > > diet.

> > >

> > > Cheryl

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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