Re: Timing of toxic injury

[Guest guest]

Dr. McCandless,

Do you think that autism with some gut involvement ever happens apart

from mercury poisoning? I ask because my mother-in-law, in her 60s

(minimal vaccines) has always had autistic characteristics and stomach

problems, has now developed Crohn's. My husband has many of the same

autistic and gut characteristics. My son has autism (I think

complicated by OCD genetics from my side) and milder gut problems than

his dad or grandmother. It just " walks and talks like " a genetic

pattern in our family. KZ

JMcCandless wrote:

> I have gone through many stages in my learning about ASD, and am

> probably still just starting. At first I thought it was genetic, then

> just

> chemical imbalancing that good nutrients would clear up, then enzyme

> dysregulation/deficiencies that secretin or other enzymes along with

> diet

> restriction would cure, then heavy metal poisoning that chelation

> would

> cure, then autoimmune illness that heightening immune function would

> cure,

> etc. etc. In all humility, the more I learn the less I know, and I

> think

> all of these things plus probably much more we don't even know about

> yet is

> going on in one little being at the same time, and there is no easy

> answer

> and no easy cure. However, I feel we are all in this together and

> doing the

> best we can, and our children are teaching us more about life and love

> than

> we could have ever learned any other way.

> Jaquelyn

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

I had an AHA moment reading your post. Although you were responding

to someone else's post, you answered a question that has been on my

mind. That is why you and Andy Cutler are so valuable to us...we

gather so much information even when we don't ask directly, we're

just lurking, or even when there is conflict. Thanks so much to both

you and Andy (and everyone else here too). Kathy

From:

> jornmatt [mailto: kjorn@t...]To:

> @y...: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 23:24:53 -0000Subject:

> [ ] Re: timing of injury & gt; & gt; & gt; When infants get

their

> injury so early it sets up a cascade of gut problems that I do not

> clinically see in my older kids who did not get the thimerosal at

birth.Do

> you mean the older autism children did not get any thimerasol in

any shots?

> or didn't get any shots at all? so they did not get any gut injury.

Or do

> you mean the older children did get thimerasol in their scheduled

> vaccinations but outgrew any gut injury...so if the children you

see are

> older, there is not gut injury and when the children you see are

younger,

> there is gut injuryOr do you mean something else entirely different?

Tha!

> > nk

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[Guest guest]

> Listmates: When I first started working with chelation, the kids

who had

> not been subjected to the Hep B mandated at birth after 1991 (kids

older

> than 8 or 9) breezed through chelation with the 8 hour schedule and

did very

> well.

Well this is another reason my son is an odd one LOL

He is almost age 7 now, and he received the HepB at 2 days old. I am

using an 8 hour schedule for him, and I have not had to deal with

yeast or bacteria more than a small amount. But he was gfcf and using

enzymes when I started chelating.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dear KZ: There are lots of other poisonings besides mercury or other heavy

metals; in England according to Dr. Shattock the pesticides cause a very

similar picture. I'm starting to feel that autism and gut injury always

start with some kind of toxic injury though it is almost impossible to find

out what that injury is in many cases. However, as I've said, there's a lot

more I don't know than what I do, but gut problems and autism are certainly

symbiotic with each other. I'm treating my young woman who got Crohn's from

her Hep B the same way I treat my ASD kids and she is doing very well so

far. Jaquelyn

Re: [ ] Timing of toxic injury

> Dr. McCandless,

> Do you think that autism with some gut involvement ever happens apart

> from mercury poisoning? I ask because my mother-in-law, in her 60s

> (minimal vaccines) has always had autistic characteristics and stomach

> problems, has now developed Crohn's. My husband has many of the same

> autistic and gut characteristics. My son has autism (I think

> complicated by OCD genetics from my side) and milder gut problems than

> his dad or grandmother. It just " walks and talks like " a genetic

> pattern in our family. KZ

>

> JMcCandless wrote:

>

> > I have gone through many stages in my learning about ASD, and am

> > probably still just starting. At first I thought it was genetic, then

> > just

> > chemical imbalancing that good nutrients would clear up, then enzyme

> > dysregulation/deficiencies that secretin or other enzymes along with

> > diet

> > restriction would cure, then heavy metal poisoning that chelation

> > would

> > cure, then autoimmune illness that heightening immune function would

> > cure,

> > etc. etc. In all humility, the more I learn the less I know, and I

> > think

> > all of these things plus probably much more we don't even know about

> > yet is

> > going on in one little being at the same time, and there is no easy

> > answer

> > and no easy cure. However, I feel we are all in this together and

> > doing the

> > best we can, and our children are teaching us more about life and love

> > than

> > we could have ever learned any other way.

> > Jaquelyn

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

At 09:33 AM 12/23/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>Dear KZ: There are lots of other poisonings besides mercury or other heavy

>metals; in England according to Dr. Shattock the pesticides cause a very

>similar picture. I'm starting to feel that autism and gut injury always

>start with some kind of toxic injury though it is almost impossible to find

>out what that injury is in many cases. However, as I've said, there's a lot

>more I don't know than what I do, but gut problems and autism are certainly

>symbiotic with each other. I'm treating my young woman who got Crohn's from

>her Hep B the same way I treat my ASD kids and she is doing very well so

>far. Jaquelyn

May want to ALSO look at polio and its connection with toxic pesticides

Polio firus present but NOT harmful in most until DDT and other toxins

http://www.geocities.com/harpub/index.html

That website will shake your belief system about polio

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[Guest guest]

I guess you marry enough toxic people through generations and eventually you

get full blow autism

Re: [ ] Timing of toxic injury

> Dr. McCandless,

> Do you think that autism with some gut involvement ever happens apart

> from mercury poisoning? I ask because my mother-in-law, in her 60s

> (minimal vaccines) has always had autistic characteristics and stomach

> problems, has now developed Crohn's. My husband has many of the same

> autistic and gut characteristics. My son has autism (I think

> complicated by OCD genetics from my side) and milder gut problems than

> his dad or grandmother. It just " walks and talks like " a genetic

> pattern in our family. KZ

>

> JMcCandless wrote:

>

> > I have gone through many stages in my learning about ASD, and am

> > probably still just starting. At first I thought it was genetic, then

> > just

> > chemical imbalancing that good nutrients would clear up, then enzyme

> > dysregulation/deficiencies that secretin or other enzymes along with

> > diet

> > restriction would cure, then heavy metal poisoning that chelation

> > would

> > cure, then autoimmune illness that heightening immune function would

> > cure,

> > etc. etc. In all humility, the more I learn the less I know, and I

> > think

> > all of these things plus probably much more we don't even know about

> > yet is

> > going on in one little being at the same time, and there is no easy

> > answer

> > and no easy cure. However, I feel we are all in this together and

> > doing the

> > best we can, and our children are teaching us more about life and love

> > than

> > we could have ever learned any other way.

> > Jaquelyn

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

,

This sounds like our family. My mother-in-law had the rhogam shots when

she was pregnant with my husband who was born in 1960.( The latest

autism hearing revealed that the single vial rhogam shots have had

thimerosal.)In addition to sounding like your mother-in-law she also

has arthritis. My husband has asperger's tendencies and his younger

brother has ADD tendencies. ( weren't diagnosed back then but it is

obvious.)Talking with my mother in law and digging out the family

health history was quite enlightening if not frightening!lol

Ann

- In , Zeller <kmzeller@a...> wrote:

> Dr. McCandless,

> Do you think that autism with some gut involvement ever happens apart

> from mercury poisoning? I ask because my mother-in-law, in her 60s

> (minimal vaccines) has always had autistic characteristics and stomach

> problems, has now developed Crohn's. My husband has many of the same

> autistic and gut characteristics. My son has autism (I think

> complicated by OCD genetics from my side) and milder gut problems than

> his dad or grandmother. It just " walks and talks like " a genetic

> pattern in our family. KZ

>

> JMcCandless wrote:

>

> > I have gone through many stages in my learning about ASD, and am

> > probably still just starting. At first I thought it was genetic, then

> > just

> > chemical imbalancing that good nutrients would clear up, then enzyme

> > dysregulation/deficiencies that secretin or other enzymes along with

> > diet

> > restriction would cure, then heavy metal poisoning that chelation

> > would

> > cure, then autoimmune illness that heightening immune function would

> > cure,

> > etc. etc. In all humility, the more I learn the less I know, and I

> > think

> > all of these things plus probably much more we don't even know about

> > yet is

> > going on in one little being at the same time, and there is no easy

> > answer

> > and no easy cure. However, I feel we are all in this together and

> > doing the

> > best we can, and our children are teaching us more about life and love

> > than

> > we could have ever learned any other way.

> > Jaquelyn

[Guest guest]

How many mercury amalgam dental fillings makes a difference as well. & gt;After I

realized I had mercury poisoning, I noted that both my mother and maternal

grandmother also had symptoms of metal toxicity. My oldest nephew has

DPT-induced autism. SI guess you marry enough toxic people through

generations and eventually youget full blow autism

Re: [ ] Timing of toxic injuryDo you think

that autism with some gut involvement ever happens apart & gt; from mercury

poisoning? & gt; ======================================================= & gt;

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Dr. McCandless. I had been thinking about how what we do with

my son might help my mother-in-law. Thanks. Z.

JMcCandless wrote:

I'm treating my young woman who got

> Crohn's from

> her Hep B the same way I treat my ASD kids and she is doing very well

> so

> far. Jaquelyn