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My name is . This is my first time with an e-mail group, so I hope I

am doing this right. I have had 3 m/c's, one of which was ectopic. The

last. Luckily, it was caught early enough to save my tube. I have been

lurking around here for a few days and thought I would finally write and

join in.

I was wondering if any of you could suggest any readings or websites that I

could learn more about miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies. A friend of

mine passed on a site to me a few days ago and it was so nice I thought I

would pass it on also. The women who wrote the website and book had 6

miscarriages and wrote a book of true stories. Here is that site:

http://www.pain-heartache-hope.com

Also, please let me know if any of you know any other books out or websites

I could refer to.

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Welcome to our group. There's alot of great support and info here. By the

way, I like your email addy. Here are some links for you...

Ectopic

http://healthlinkusa.com/102.html

http://www.advancedfertility.com/ectopic.htm

http://www.ability.org.uk/Ectopic_Pregnancy.html

Miscarriage

http://www.inciid.org/mismanl.html Great for EVERYONE to read!

http://www.baby-place.com/miscarriage.htm

http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/miscarriage/resources.html

I'm sure this is more than enough to get you started. There are many links

on these pages as well.

Tricia

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Welcome to the group. I'm sorry it's under difficult circumstances.

They ladies here are wonderful and very supportive. I'm sure you will

find great comfort here.

You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Love & hugs,

Jo-Ann

MaCoy wrote:

>

> My name is . This is my first time with an e-mail group, so I hope I

> am doing this right. I have had 3 m/c's, one of which was ectopic. The

> last. Luckily, it was caught early enough to save my tube. I have been

> lurking around here for a few days and thought I would finally write and

> join in.

>

> I was wondering if any of you could suggest any readings or websites that I

> could learn more about miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies. A friend of

> mine passed on a site to me a few days ago and it was so nice I thought I

> would pass it on also. The women who wrote the website and book had 6

> miscarriages and wrote a book of true stories. Here is that site:

>

> http://www.pain-heartache-hope.com

>

> Also, please let me know if any of you know any other books out or websites

> I could refer to.

>

>

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Bobbie,

We are in NZ, so can't help re how to go about starting the diet over there,

I'm sure others here on the list can though.

Does your son have an actual diagnosis, or cause for his seizures? The

ketogenic diet is for children whose epilepsy is not controlled by meds, or

who have unnacceptable med side effects, even if they were controlled

seizure wise.

I would recommend reading the book written by Dr J. Freeman, who practices

at s Hopkins Hospital in Boston. There is a fairly recent reprint, the

3rd edition. My book goes walkies whenever I need to refer to it, but I

think it's titled 'The ketogenic diet, a treatment for epilepsy' (???)If you

say your son is on 4 meds, it is highly likely (speaking from our own

experience) that the seizures may unfortunately be aggravated by lots of

meds together.

Our son , 5 yrs old, started seizures at age 3 and a half, many meds

did not help him, in fact many aggravated his condition, especially when the

doses were too high. For instance, I remember one EEG, where like your son,

it was reported that all abnormal movements did not correlate with seizure

activity, that he seemed to have ataxia as well as the seizures. Little hand

jerks, head nods etc. Turns out, it was the tegretol that actually caused

these movements, they went away as soon as we removed that med.

The pros of the diet, well...read a sample of previous posts, you will see

some real miracle stories, it really does work, and fantastically well for a

lot of children. One of the main benefits is being able to reduce the

medication, you can almost physically see the 'fog' gradually lifting, the

lucky ones who are fully controlled can have no further seizures, med free

and seizure free.

A lot of families do not see complete control until the meds are gone, they

can actually interfere with the diet working 100%. Different neuros have

different ideas on how to do this, some say not to reduce until seizure free

for quite a while, but some agree that until the meds are heavily reduced,

or gone altogether, the diet will not reach it's full treatment potential.

I certainly would have tried weaning meds before starting the diet, had I

realised this, they complicate so many things when trying to 'finetune' the

diet, and we have found the withdrawl seizures from reducing the meds seem

to hit harder than they did pre diet.

There are some kids, though, who the diet for some reason, does not help at

all, or not enough to warrant keeping them on it. I guess the answer to that

one is, you have to try to know!

Points against, obviously restricted food, it is very hard to see my 5 yr

old watch his siblings eat a normal diet, especially when his favourite

foods are involved. He understands why he can't, however, and there are ways

of making the meals varied and interesting, once you get going. For the

parents, it can be time consuming, all the food must be accurately weighed

and calculated, but that gets easier as time goes on. You have to be even

more vigilant watching the children, to make sure they dont 'cheat' as

breakthrough seizures may occur.

Health wise, some kids do not grow on the diet, but the ratios etc can be

altered as time goes on to assist in this, and if they are lucky, the diet

is sometimes only for 2 or so years. Growth will then do a 'catch up' for

those who didn't grow. (My son hasn't grown in height for 5 months, but we

are lucky in that he is extremely tall for his age anyway, not really a

factor for him, at this stage anyway)

Cholestrol, liver and kidney function etc, has to be monitored, but if you

do start the diet for your son, he should have a 'keto team' (neuro,

dietician etc) to help with all of that.

There are not a lot on this list who would say the cons outweigh the pros,

it is a fair bit of hard work, but the results can be staggering, and I,

personally, would do this for the next ten years, if it keeps the seizures

away, and allows to function at a normal cognitive level, and learn,

without the meds or seizures halting his development.

Well, that's my novel, good luck in your quest,

Hill

new here...

> Hi

> I have a 14mnth old old who has severe seizures of all kinds and

> alot of his movements didnt read on the egg, well my son has been on

> just about every med there is to be on for his seizrues but non of

> wich has helped he is currently on 4 right now and still has up to

> 100 seizures a day, i am beginning to lose hope then i heard about

> this diet, but i would like to know the pro's and con's, and how

> would i get my neuro to put my son on it...??????

>

> bobbie

>

>

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a professional

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My son began the diet at age 17 months at s Hopkins in Baltimore,

land. He is now treated at Boston Children's and Mass General. Find a

neuro who would be supportive, and who is TRAINED on implementing the keto

diet. Read up on it first. I would try to find a good, well trained

epilepsy center who does the diet and go for a consult. If he is still

seizing on 4 meds I would think the diet would be a very reasonable thing to

try. And he's still young enough that it might not be as difficult as it

might with an older child. My son began the diet on 3 meds that were not

helping and he improved dramatically.

Where do you live and who is your neuro? Maybe some others on the list have

a local reference for you. Have you read anything on the diet? Get the

book by Freeman, Vining and Pillas, The Epilepsy Diet Treatment. That will

get you started and give you a sense for what it's about.

Do you know why he has seizures? And what type does he have?

Barb Swoyer, Boston

new here...

> Hi

> I have a 14mnth old old who has severe seizures of all kinds and

> alot of his movements didnt read on the egg, well my son has been on

> just about every med there is to be on for his seizrues but non of

> wich has helped he is currently on 4 right now and still has up to

> 100 seizures a day, i am beginning to lose hope then i heard about

> this diet, but i would like to know the pro's and con's, and how

> would i get my neuro to put my son on it...??????

>

> bobbie

>

>

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a professional

keto team!

> Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

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Im in illinois and the seizures are caused from brain damage, i

have been doing alot of research on the diet my worry is if he is

going to get sick easily or not...

> My son began the diet at age 17 months at s Hopkins in

Baltimore,

> land. He is now treated at Boston Children's and Mass

General. Find a

> neuro who would be supportive, and who is TRAINED on implementing

the keto

> diet. Read up on it first. I would try to find a good, well

trained

> epilepsy center who does the diet and go for a consult. If he is

still

> seizing on 4 meds I would think the diet would be a very

reasonable thing to

> try. And he's still young enough that it might not be as

difficult as it

> might with an older child. My son began the diet on 3 meds that

were not

> helping and he improved dramatically.

> Where do you live and who is your neuro? Maybe some others on the

list have

> a local reference for you. Have you read anything on the diet?

Get the

> book by Freeman, Vining and Pillas, The Epilepsy Diet Treatment.

That will

> get you started and give you a sense for what it's about.

> Do you know why he has seizures? And what type does he have?

> Barb Swoyer, Boston

> new here...

>

>

> > Hi

> > I have a 14mnth old old who has severe seizures of all kinds and

> > alot of his movements didnt read on the egg, well my son has

been on

> > just about every med there is to be on for his seizrues but non

of

> > wich has helped he is currently on 4 right now and still has up

to

> > 100 seizures a day, i am beginning to lose hope then i heard

about

> > this diet, but i would like to know the pro's and con's, and how

> > would i get my neuro to put my son on it...??????

> >

> > bobbie

> >

> >

> >

> > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just

a last

> resort! "

> >

> > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > It is important to get medical advice from a

professional

> keto team!

> > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe@y...

> > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Bobbie,

I'd say that one of the pros is that this diet holds a lot more promise for kids like your son than most doctors even realise. If you decide you really want to try it, and your child's neuro is against it or doesn't know much about it, I'd suggest finding a different neuro that believes in it.... or ask to be referred to a Keto clinic.

One of the cons would be starting the diet on a combination of several meds.... it can be a tough juggling act adjusting the diet and weaning the meds.

Go in and read the files here at our site and you'll learn a ton.

Patti

new here...

HiI have a 14mnth old old who has severe seizures of all kinds and alot of his movements didnt read on the egg, well my son has been on just about every med there is to be on for his seizrues but non of wich has helped he is currently on 4 right now and still has up to 100 seizures a day, i am beginning to lose hope then i heard about this diet, but i would like to know the pro's and con's, and how would i get my neuro to put my son on it...??????bobbie

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Bobbie.... there is one more "pro" in your favor..... doing the diet with a child who is tube fed is (I hear) a breeze. You won't have any struggles with getting him to eat all his food, etc.

Patti, mom to Katera, age 5 (partial ACC, microcephaly, global delays) in Washington state.

Re: new here...

I guess i should of explained his condition a little more, my son has microcephaly and has been diagnosed with cp, spastic quad, HIE, fundo tube fed, severe seizure disorder the seizures vary becuase he keeps comeing up with new ones, larygnomalacia, corticaly blind, it is a long list and i just would like at least to eliminate some of the things becuz it is so hard towatch him go through this, and he is developmentaly delayed and the seizures are only delaying him more, becuz he has clusters after clusters of them, some of them are laughing spells someof them are rolling the eyse and twitching real bad, and most of them are just straight twichting non stop all day long and they even wake him in the middle of the night it interferes alot with his sleep.....

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