Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 Dawn was that long letter addressed to me? If so e-mail privately ok? So we can talk. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2000 Report Share Posted September 26, 2000 Thank you sweetie, you're a doll! Hugs! Dawn -----Original Message-----From: Pam Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 6:00 PMTo: OSSG-NewEnglandegroupsSubject: Re: Pam/Wickedbob Dawn... You are a beautiful person.. and reading you what you wrote, sharing that with me and others truly shows you are beautiful inside also... it also means that you are heading in the right direction... Once you know that and are working toward recovery... things seem to make more sense. It sometimes seems like a long long road... and for some of us we may have to take some of the meds for the rest of our lives.. But I am ok with that.. and these days I am thankful to my loving husband and bestest cousin in the world for caring enough about me to hear the alarms and seek help to find me... At the time I was on Prozac ... it was not working that well on me.. one of the main reasons could have been that I was drinking a bit heavy then... I would have wicked panic attacks and could not leave the house.. It hurt so bad inside that I couldn't stand the pain.. I cried all the time.. Very Very out of character to me.. I have always been an upbeat person.. and I still try to keep that upbeat person alive in me today.. the difference is that today I have to take some meds to help out with it... And I am ok with that... I think we all need to except people how they are and not judge. I know things are going to go great for you girly.. you have an awesome man that loves you and will be there for you... and you have some wicked good friends that care about you.. If you ever need to talk girly.. you give me a call.. I will be there for you.. I am so happy to have met someone who cares so much about people... I know what you have been thru as I have been there myself and am still working on it.. WE CAN MAKE IT THRU THIS!! Be strong... *hugs*Wickedbob akaPAMopen RNY 6/26/00235/182/12553 pounds gone forever!Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams RE: Stress, realizing things, friends, etc Lyssa,I have learned that just simply talking to someone on a professional level,as well as the list, that sometimes you can determine if you are depressed,or stressed. Once you know what it is, you can help by talking, venting,listening, getting out more, etc...Some people require med's to increase theSeratonin level, which I learned the hard way. I guess my levels were solow, I was considered majority depressed. Unfortunately for me, I was indenial. I knew it was happening, but tried avoiding it, until it was toolate. I found myself out of control, feeling extremely overwhelmed, sad,crying all the time, bitchy to no end, and feeling like I was the only one,who could care less what happened to me. I was at the point of contemplatingmy life, and comparing mine to others...I WAS SO WRONG to do that! I foundmyself saying "Why can't I be as positive as this one or that one", "Why doI feel so shitty when I've lost this weight", etc., to the point of wantingto die.Now, I'm out of the thinking stage, and even though at times I feel selfish,I'm thinking of ME, but sharing my experiences to help others.Hope this helps!Take care!Dawn ()o() hugs-----Original Message-----From: Lyssa Foulkes Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 9:35 AMTo: OSSG-NewEnglandegroupsSubject: Stress, realizing things, friends, etcI think there are more of us with these sorts of inner issues than werealize .. just by reading some of the posts the last few days its struckhome to me that alot of us are going through a similiar process talk aboutbeing depressed or tired.I try to be upbeat and positive all the time but I have to admit I've beendealing with what might be depression and I'm looking into going for somecounselling. Part of that is a problem in itself. I have no time for me ..and with a small child at home and no one to watch her I don't even know howI can go to an appt in the daytime. DH travels alot and that is reallystarting to wear down on me too. I think its good though to know there areresources out there if we need them. Or sometimes just talking here helpsget alot of my chest. I have to admit Mike's post really threw me for a loopyesterday although I refuse to let it bug me further. His aggression I feltwas unwarranted but maybe he himself is dealing with depression or crying onthe inside for something so I should be sympathetic to that. so Mike I hopeyou're reading this and hoping you can let go of the anger and if you everwant to talk I suggest you write me .. or post here because we are a supportgroup. If you don't post we can't realize whats going on and try to help orjust listen ..No one is perfect and I never claimed to be. In fact today I feel likeshit. Admitting it doesn't make me feel any better but we all struggle. Myproblems might not be as big as others but they are there. I have issueswith my spouse. I have no family in this country and at times I feel veryalone. Pam said it so well that alot of our coping mechanisms are taken awaywith the surgery aka the food .. and I admitted to her this morning that myeating last week due to stress was completely out of control. I do not dumpI can tolerate anything and on a smaller scale capacity wise I will eatingexactly as I was preop. I am back on day 2 of trying to regain control andstruggling. I try not to post something negative but I also think alot ofthe time who cares and why bring someone else down possibly .. but maybe Ido need to post more about how I feel so people can get the entire pictureand not think life is just a big party for me. I don't like trying to stayfocused on negative. I like trying to be upbeat and relaxed and happy butthere are days where man oh man I could use a stiff drink, a packed suitcaseand a fistful of money and I'd be out of here. On the same hand however Irealize that there are days where I feel stronger than ever before and Idon't mean physically. I rarely said no to anyone before and now I'mlearning to say no that isn't good for me or no thanks Im not interested.There are days where I feel assertive .. or bitchy and I like it. However Idon't want to be just that lol. I know I need to stand up more for myselfin my marriage and make time for me and make time for the kids and not waiton others to have everything perfect or perfection will never come and lifewill be over if I waited for it patiently. Then there are other days where Ifeel like a total failure and crushed on the inside. I guess these are notnormal feelings and something I need to work on. Or maybe they are normalfor alot of people but since we can't cope (food) the way we did before weget messed up and can't figure out how to deal with certain situations. Iknow 2 nights ago I got into a huge fight with my husband and I couldn'twait to get some food stuffed down my throat for a sense of release from thestress.Anyways I may just take my good friends advice and go see someone and talkabout it. At least I'm thinking about it and not diving into a bag of chipsthis morning so maybe its a start.Pam you are a hero in my books like so many others here. You are taking babysteps and making the start of a great journey. You're going to go far anddiscover much and for that I'm in awe of you. Maybe I can follow the pathyou're breaking for us .. because to me you are truly a wonderful person.Lyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2000 Report Share Posted September 26, 2000 Thank you sweetie, you're a doll! Hugs! Dawn -----Original Message-----From: Pam Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 6:00 PMTo: OSSG-NewEnglandegroupsSubject: Re: Pam/Wickedbob Dawn... You are a beautiful person.. and reading you what you wrote, sharing that with me and others truly shows you are beautiful inside also... it also means that you are heading in the right direction... Once you know that and are working toward recovery... things seem to make more sense. It sometimes seems like a long long road... and for some of us we may have to take some of the meds for the rest of our lives.. But I am ok with that.. and these days I am thankful to my loving husband and bestest cousin in the world for caring enough about me to hear the alarms and seek help to find me... At the time I was on Prozac ... it was not working that well on me.. one of the main reasons could have been that I was drinking a bit heavy then... I would have wicked panic attacks and could not leave the house.. It hurt so bad inside that I couldn't stand the pain.. I cried all the time.. Very Very out of character to me.. I have always been an upbeat person.. and I still try to keep that upbeat person alive in me today.. the difference is that today I have to take some meds to help out with it... And I am ok with that... I think we all need to except people how they are and not judge. I know things are going to go great for you girly.. you have an awesome man that loves you and will be there for you... and you have some wicked good friends that care about you.. If you ever need to talk girly.. you give me a call.. I will be there for you.. I am so happy to have met someone who cares so much about people... I know what you have been thru as I have been there myself and am still working on it.. WE CAN MAKE IT THRU THIS!! Be strong... *hugs*Wickedbob akaPAMopen RNY 6/26/00235/182/12553 pounds gone forever!Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams RE: Stress, realizing things, friends, etc Lyssa,I have learned that just simply talking to someone on a professional level,as well as the list, that sometimes you can determine if you are depressed,or stressed. Once you know what it is, you can help by talking, venting,listening, getting out more, etc...Some people require med's to increase theSeratonin level, which I learned the hard way. I guess my levels were solow, I was considered majority depressed. Unfortunately for me, I was indenial. I knew it was happening, but tried avoiding it, until it was toolate. I found myself out of control, feeling extremely overwhelmed, sad,crying all the time, bitchy to no end, and feeling like I was the only one,who could care less what happened to me. I was at the point of contemplatingmy life, and comparing mine to others...I WAS SO WRONG to do that! I foundmyself saying "Why can't I be as positive as this one or that one", "Why doI feel so shitty when I've lost this weight", etc., to the point of wantingto die.Now, I'm out of the thinking stage, and even though at times I feel selfish,I'm thinking of ME, but sharing my experiences to help others.Hope this helps!Take care!Dawn ()o() hugs-----Original Message-----From: Lyssa Foulkes Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 9:35 AMTo: OSSG-NewEnglandegroupsSubject: Stress, realizing things, friends, etcI think there are more of us with these sorts of inner issues than werealize .. just by reading some of the posts the last few days its struckhome to me that alot of us are going through a similiar process talk aboutbeing depressed or tired.I try to be upbeat and positive all the time but I have to admit I've beendealing with what might be depression and I'm looking into going for somecounselling. Part of that is a problem in itself. I have no time for me ..and with a small child at home and no one to watch her I don't even know howI can go to an appt in the daytime. DH travels alot and that is reallystarting to wear down on me too. I think its good though to know there areresources out there if we need them. Or sometimes just talking here helpsget alot of my chest. I have to admit Mike's post really threw me for a loopyesterday although I refuse to let it bug me further. His aggression I feltwas unwarranted but maybe he himself is dealing with depression or crying onthe inside for something so I should be sympathetic to that. so Mike I hopeyou're reading this and hoping you can let go of the anger and if you everwant to talk I suggest you write me .. or post here because we are a supportgroup. If you don't post we can't realize whats going on and try to help orjust listen ..No one is perfect and I never claimed to be. In fact today I feel likeshit. Admitting it doesn't make me feel any better but we all struggle. Myproblems might not be as big as others but they are there. I have issueswith my spouse. I have no family in this country and at times I feel veryalone. Pam said it so well that alot of our coping mechanisms are taken awaywith the surgery aka the food .. and I admitted to her this morning that myeating last week due to stress was completely out of control. I do not dumpI can tolerate anything and on a smaller scale capacity wise I will eatingexactly as I was preop. I am back on day 2 of trying to regain control andstruggling. I try not to post something negative but I also think alot ofthe time who cares and why bring someone else down possibly .. but maybe Ido need to post more about how I feel so people can get the entire pictureand not think life is just a big party for me. I don't like trying to stayfocused on negative. I like trying to be upbeat and relaxed and happy butthere are days where man oh man I could use a stiff drink, a packed suitcaseand a fistful of money and I'd be out of here. On the same hand however Irealize that there are days where I feel stronger than ever before and Idon't mean physically. I rarely said no to anyone before and now I'mlearning to say no that isn't good for me or no thanks Im not interested.There are days where I feel assertive .. or bitchy and I like it. However Idon't want to be just that lol. I know I need to stand up more for myselfin my marriage and make time for me and make time for the kids and not waiton others to have everything perfect or perfection will never come and lifewill be over if I waited for it patiently. Then there are other days where Ifeel like a total failure and crushed on the inside. I guess these are notnormal feelings and something I need to work on. Or maybe they are normalfor alot of people but since we can't cope (food) the way we did before weget messed up and can't figure out how to deal with certain situations. Iknow 2 nights ago I got into a huge fight with my husband and I couldn'twait to get some food stuffed down my throat for a sense of release from thestress.Anyways I may just take my good friends advice and go see someone and talkabout it. At least I'm thinking about it and not diving into a bag of chipsthis morning so maybe its a start.Pam you are a hero in my books like so many others here. You are taking babysteps and making the start of a great journey. You're going to go far anddiscover much and for that I'm in awe of you. Maybe I can follow the pathyou're breaking for us .. because to me you are truly a wonderful person.Lyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2000 Report Share Posted September 26, 2000 Thank you sweetie, you're a doll! Hugs! Dawn -----Original Message-----From: Pam Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 6:00 PMTo: OSSG-NewEnglandegroupsSubject: Re: Pam/Wickedbob Dawn... You are a beautiful person.. and reading you what you wrote, sharing that with me and others truly shows you are beautiful inside also... it also means that you are heading in the right direction... Once you know that and are working toward recovery... things seem to make more sense. It sometimes seems like a long long road... and for some of us we may have to take some of the meds for the rest of our lives.. But I am ok with that.. and these days I am thankful to my loving husband and bestest cousin in the world for caring enough about me to hear the alarms and seek help to find me... At the time I was on Prozac ... it was not working that well on me.. one of the main reasons could have been that I was drinking a bit heavy then... I would have wicked panic attacks and could not leave the house.. It hurt so bad inside that I couldn't stand the pain.. I cried all the time.. Very Very out of character to me.. I have always been an upbeat person.. and I still try to keep that upbeat person alive in me today.. the difference is that today I have to take some meds to help out with it... And I am ok with that... I think we all need to except people how they are and not judge. I know things are going to go great for you girly.. you have an awesome man that loves you and will be there for you... and you have some wicked good friends that care about you.. If you ever need to talk girly.. you give me a call.. I will be there for you.. I am so happy to have met someone who cares so much about people... I know what you have been thru as I have been there myself and am still working on it.. WE CAN MAKE IT THRU THIS!! Be strong... *hugs*Wickedbob akaPAMopen RNY 6/26/00235/182/12553 pounds gone forever!Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams RE: Stress, realizing things, friends, etc Lyssa,I have learned that just simply talking to someone on a professional level,as well as the list, that sometimes you can determine if you are depressed,or stressed. Once you know what it is, you can help by talking, venting,listening, getting out more, etc...Some people require med's to increase theSeratonin level, which I learned the hard way. I guess my levels were solow, I was considered majority depressed. Unfortunately for me, I was indenial. I knew it was happening, but tried avoiding it, until it was toolate. I found myself out of control, feeling extremely overwhelmed, sad,crying all the time, bitchy to no end, and feeling like I was the only one,who could care less what happened to me. I was at the point of contemplatingmy life, and comparing mine to others...I WAS SO WRONG to do that! I foundmyself saying "Why can't I be as positive as this one or that one", "Why doI feel so shitty when I've lost this weight", etc., to the point of wantingto die.Now, I'm out of the thinking stage, and even though at times I feel selfish,I'm thinking of ME, but sharing my experiences to help others.Hope this helps!Take care!Dawn ()o() hugs-----Original Message-----From: Lyssa Foulkes Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 9:35 AMTo: OSSG-NewEnglandegroupsSubject: Stress, realizing things, friends, etcI think there are more of us with these sorts of inner issues than werealize .. just by reading some of the posts the last few days its struckhome to me that alot of us are going through a similiar process talk aboutbeing depressed or tired.I try to be upbeat and positive all the time but I have to admit I've beendealing with what might be depression and I'm looking into going for somecounselling. Part of that is a problem in itself. I have no time for me ..and with a small child at home and no one to watch her I don't even know howI can go to an appt in the daytime. DH travels alot and that is reallystarting to wear down on me too. I think its good though to know there areresources out there if we need them. Or sometimes just talking here helpsget alot of my chest. I have to admit Mike's post really threw me for a loopyesterday although I refuse to let it bug me further. His aggression I feltwas unwarranted but maybe he himself is dealing with depression or crying onthe inside for something so I should be sympathetic to that. so Mike I hopeyou're reading this and hoping you can let go of the anger and if you everwant to talk I suggest you write me .. or post here because we are a supportgroup. If you don't post we can't realize whats going on and try to help orjust listen ..No one is perfect and I never claimed to be. In fact today I feel likeshit. Admitting it doesn't make me feel any better but we all struggle. Myproblems might not be as big as others but they are there. I have issueswith my spouse. I have no family in this country and at times I feel veryalone. Pam said it so well that alot of our coping mechanisms are taken awaywith the surgery aka the food .. and I admitted to her this morning that myeating last week due to stress was completely out of control. I do not dumpI can tolerate anything and on a smaller scale capacity wise I will eatingexactly as I was preop. I am back on day 2 of trying to regain control andstruggling. I try not to post something negative but I also think alot ofthe time who cares and why bring someone else down possibly .. but maybe Ido need to post more about how I feel so people can get the entire pictureand not think life is just a big party for me. I don't like trying to stayfocused on negative. I like trying to be upbeat and relaxed and happy butthere are days where man oh man I could use a stiff drink, a packed suitcaseand a fistful of money and I'd be out of here. On the same hand however Irealize that there are days where I feel stronger than ever before and Idon't mean physically. I rarely said no to anyone before and now I'mlearning to say no that isn't good for me or no thanks Im not interested.There are days where I feel assertive .. or bitchy and I like it. However Idon't want to be just that lol. I know I need to stand up more for myselfin my marriage and make time for me and make time for the kids and not waiton others to have everything perfect or perfection will never come and lifewill be over if I waited for it patiently. Then there are other days where Ifeel like a total failure and crushed on the inside. I guess these are notnormal feelings and something I need to work on. Or maybe they are normalfor alot of people but since we can't cope (food) the way we did before weget messed up and can't figure out how to deal with certain situations. Iknow 2 nights ago I got into a huge fight with my husband and I couldn'twait to get some food stuffed down my throat for a sense of release from thestress.Anyways I may just take my good friends advice and go see someone and talkabout it. At least I'm thinking about it and not diving into a bag of chipsthis morning so maybe its a start.Pam you are a hero in my books like so many others here. You are taking babysteps and making the start of a great journey. You're going to go far anddiscover much and for that I'm in awe of you. Maybe I can follow the pathyou're breaking for us .. because to me you are truly a wonderful person.Lyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2000 Report Share Posted September 26, 2000 Dawn... You are a beautiful person.. and reading you what you wrote, sharing that with me and others truly shows you are beautiful inside also... it also means that you are heading in the right direction... Once you know that and are working toward recovery... things seem to make more sense. It sometimes seems like a long long road... and for some of us we may have to take some of the meds for the rest of our lives.. But I am ok with that.. and these days I am thankful to my loving husband and bestest cousin in the world for caring enough about me to hear the alarms and seek help to find me... At the time I was on Prozac ... it was not working that well on me.. one of the main reasons could have been that I was drinking a bit heavy then... I would have wicked panic attacks and could not leave the house.. It hurt so bad inside that I couldn't stand the pain.. I cried all the time.. Very Very out of character to me.. I have always been an upbeat person.. and I still try to keep that upbeat person alive in me today.. the difference is that today I have to take some meds to help out with it... And I am ok with that... I think we all need to except people how they are and not judge. I know things are going to go great for you girly.. you have an awesome man that loves you and will be there for you... and you have some wicked good friends that care about you.. If you ever need to talk girly.. you give me a call.. I will be there for you.. I am so happy to have met someone who cares so much about people... I know what you have been thru as I have been there myself and am still working on it.. WE CAN MAKE IT THRU THIS!! Be strong... *hugs*Wickedbob akaPAMopen RNY 6/26/00235/182/12553 pounds gone forever!Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams RE: Stress, realizing things, friends, etc Lyssa,I have learned that just simply talking to someone on a professional level,as well as the list, that sometimes you can determine if you are depressed,or stressed. Once you know what it is, you can help by talking, venting,listening, getting out more, etc...Some people require med's to increase theSeratonin level, which I learned the hard way. I guess my levels were solow, I was considered majority depressed. Unfortunately for me, I was indenial. I knew it was happening, but tried avoiding it, until it was toolate. I found myself out of control, feeling extremely overwhelmed, sad,crying all the time, bitchy to no end, and feeling like I was the only one,who could care less what happened to me. I was at the point of contemplatingmy life, and comparing mine to others...I WAS SO WRONG to do that! I foundmyself saying "Why can't I be as positive as this one or that one", "Why doI feel so shitty when I've lost this weight", etc., to the point of wantingto die.Now, I'm out of the thinking stage, and even though at times I feel selfish,I'm thinking of ME, but sharing my experiences to help others.Hope this helps!Take care!Dawn ()o() hugs-----Original Message-----From: Lyssa Foulkes Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 9:35 AMTo: OSSG-NewEnglandegroupsSubject: Stress, realizing things, friends, etcI think there are more of us with these sorts of inner issues than werealize .. just by reading some of the posts the last few days its struckhome to me that alot of us are going through a similiar process talk aboutbeing depressed or tired.I try to be upbeat and positive all the time but I have to admit I've beendealing with what might be depression and I'm looking into going for somecounselling. Part of that is a problem in itself. I have no time for me ..and with a small child at home and no one to watch her I don't even know howI can go to an appt in the daytime. DH travels alot and that is reallystarting to wear down on me too. I think its good though to know there areresources out there if we need them. Or sometimes just talking here helpsget alot of my chest. I have to admit Mike's post really threw me for a loopyesterday although I refuse to let it bug me further. His aggression I feltwas unwarranted but maybe he himself is dealing with depression or crying onthe inside for something so I should be sympathetic to that. so Mike I hopeyou're reading this and hoping you can let go of the anger and if you everwant to talk I suggest you write me .. or post here because we are a supportgroup. If you don't post we can't realize whats going on and try to help orjust listen ..No one is perfect and I never claimed to be. In fact today I feel likeshit. Admitting it doesn't make me feel any better but we all struggle. Myproblems might not be as big as others but they are there. I have issueswith my spouse. I have no family in this country and at times I feel veryalone. Pam said it so well that alot of our coping mechanisms are taken awaywith the surgery aka the food .. and I admitted to her this morning that myeating last week due to stress was completely out of control. I do not dumpI can tolerate anything and on a smaller scale capacity wise I will eatingexactly as I was preop. I am back on day 2 of trying to regain control andstruggling. I try not to post something negative but I also think alot ofthe time who cares and why bring someone else down possibly .. but maybe Ido need to post more about how I feel so people can get the entire pictureand not think life is just a big party for me. I don't like trying to stayfocused on negative. I like trying to be upbeat and relaxed and happy butthere are days where man oh man I could use a stiff drink, a packed suitcaseand a fistful of money and I'd be out of here. On the same hand however Irealize that there are days where I feel stronger than ever before and Idon't mean physically. I rarely said no to anyone before and now I'mlearning to say no that isn't good for me or no thanks Im not interested.There are days where I feel assertive .. or bitchy and I like it. However Idon't want to be just that lol. I know I need to stand up more for myselfin my marriage and make time for me and make time for the kids and not waiton others to have everything perfect or perfection will never come and lifewill be over if I waited for it patiently. Then there are other days where Ifeel like a total failure and crushed on the inside. I guess these are notnormal feelings and something I need to work on. Or maybe they are normalfor alot of people but since we can't cope (food) the way we did before weget messed up and can't figure out how to deal with certain situations. Iknow 2 nights ago I got into a huge fight with my husband and I couldn'twait to get some food stuffed down my throat for a sense of release from thestress.Anyways I may just take my good friends advice and go see someone and talkabout it. At least I'm thinking about it and not diving into a bag of chipsthis morning so maybe its a start.Pam you are a hero in my books like so many others here. You are taking babysteps and making the start of a great journey. You're going to go far anddiscover much and for that I'm in awe of you. Maybe I can follow the pathyou're breaking for us .. because to me you are truly a wonderful person.Lyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2000 Report Share Posted September 27, 2000 In a message dated 09/24/2000 3:57:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, huggybuggy@... writes: << When she did, she said I was in the middle of a full blown panic attack, and NOT to go back to work. >> Dawn, I was just about to hit reply and say the exact same thing to you... many people suffer from unexplained ailments shen in reality it is a panic disorder... they brought my DH to the ER because he was having a heart attack..guess what? panic attack... 4 months at home,,same sweatshirt too..LOL hang in there girl! Feel free to email me privately also... My whole family is on meds...LOL cheryl Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle: Take two and keep away from children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2000 Report Share Posted September 27, 2000 In a message dated 09/24/2000 3:57:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, huggybuggy@... writes: << When she did, she said I was in the middle of a full blown panic attack, and NOT to go back to work. >> whoops PS email is cajass1@... Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle: Take two and keep away from children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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