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Hi Marcia...I learned after surgery that you need to take a positive

attitude with you. Yes, I was excited and scared, and sore after, and I

lost the positive attitude of " this too shall pass " ...wicked Pam taught me

to have a positive attitude all the way through and you will get back on

your feet faster. After I took her advice, things got easier and easier.

We are thinking of you and good luck.........Michele

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Good luck! My mother had her surgery with Dr. Thayer on Valentine's

Day, 2000 and said he was wonderful. I guess he comes in your room a

lot to check up on you. I'm having the operation the first week in

November with him and for some reason, I feel totally comfortable

with him. The only thing I can suggest is to make sure you have your

Flintstone's already at home. And plenty of things to read. I'm

actually going to the pre-op group meeting tomorrow morning. If I

find out anything else of interest, I'll let you know.

Sherry

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Marcia..

Only thing I can say is "GO FOR IT"... keep a positive mind and know that the first couple of weeks can be hard... but man the rewards are WORTH IT!! will be thinking of you... heres to a speedy recovery... let us all know how you are doing ok..:)

*hugs*Wickedbob akaPAMopen RNY 6/26/00235/182/12553 pounds gone forever!Lahey Clinic Dr. Brams

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Anyone with any last minute words of wisdom for someone counting the days 'til surgery ? I am getting very scared. Anything special I should stock up on ?

Marcia

9-28-00 (yikes!)

Dr.Thayer

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Welcome home Marcia! Glad to have you back! I'm not sure about the stage 3 diet (I had a dif't surgeon), but what does it include?

The excess water weight will come off in no time, along with many more!

Dawn

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Well I am back from my surgery (Dr Thayer, 9-28-00) I came home yesterday. All went well I am just a little tired and sore. I am now enjoying that wonderful stager 3 diet. YUM YUM. Any suggestions ? Gained 20 pounds of fluid in the hospital (sure makes this seem worth it) Ah but that too shall pass, probably in the middle of the night when I am trying to sleep.

Marcia

Dr. Thayer

NWH

9-28-00

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Marcia,

Welcome home. You are right, this too shall pass. I am 2wks

out and yes, the diet is divine, ha, ha.

Keep your spirits up and you'll feel like yourself in no time.

Hugz from NH

diane

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Thanks Cathryn,

I am actually having the surgery at NY Cornell is the city but i

tI was actually born at LIJ but I live in the city now so Im doing

it there. My parents will definitely be there so that will be ok.

Is ensure the best shake type thing to eat? Can you eat all kind of

soups. Was talking really hard with the exander? Was there a lot

of swelling? Sorry for all the questions I am just a little

freaked out by all this. I'm 23 and went to get my separators put

in at the orthodontist today and i felt like i was 10 years old

again. thanks,

Pete

> Pete,

>

> I had the expansion at LIJ on Long Island last October. It was

> outpatient--the surgery was at 8am & I was home late that

afternoon. I was

> sick to my stomach afterwards, but the dr. gave me a supository

that worked

> very well. No real pain--just some discomfort that Advil took

care of.

> Drank Ensure & soup plus some gatorade for the first several

days. Was able

> to take 2 weeks off from work-felt good by the time I returned to

my desk.

> I had the expander in my mouth for about 4 months--keyed it

myself -only had

> to key it for a couple of weeks. The hardest part was learning to

speak

> clearly w/the expander in my mouth--that only took 2-3 weeks and I

was fine

> both in person & on the phone.

> You probably know all this but--be sure you have someone to drive

you home

> after the procedure. The only part that was difficult was at the

hospital.

> The nurses wanted me out before I felt well enough to go-they want

the

> morning patients out so they can move the afternoon patients in.

They were

> very insistant about it. I was fortunate to not be alone-my

parents were

> there to run interference for me as I couldn't speak for myself.

Overall

> the procedure and recuperation are not bad.

>

> >From: " petemassa " <pmassa@a...>

> >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport@y...

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> >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] surgery

> >Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:33:56 -0000

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Pete,

Ensure is nuritionally inadequate for a young man of 23. I'd

recommend you look at Myoplex shakes by EAS, or something similar.

Find a local bodybuilding store, and ask them to show you what they

have for meal replacements.

Here, compare the nutritional difference for yourself:

http://www.ensure.com/OurProducts/Ensure.asp

http://www.eas.com/products/product_select.asp?ProductName=17

-john

> Thanks Cathryn,

> I am actually having the surgery at NY Cornell is the city but i

> tI was actually born at LIJ but I live in the city now so Im doing

> it there. My parents will definitely be there so that will be ok.

> Is ensure the best shake type thing to eat? Can you eat all kind

of

> soups. Was talking really hard with the exander? Was there a lot

> of swelling? Sorry for all the questions I am just a little

> freaked out by all this. I'm 23 and went to get my separators put

> in at the orthodontist today and i felt like i was 10 years old

> again. thanks,

> Pete

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Thanks I will definitely check that out. Any recomendations on

specific types/flavors. I know myoplex and Metrex

> > Thanks Cathryn,

> > I am actually having the surgery at NY Cornell is the city

but i

> > tI was actually born at LIJ but I live in the city now so Im

doing

> > it there. My parents will definitely be there so that will be

ok.

> > Is ensure the best shake type thing to eat? Can you eat all

kind

> of

> > soups. Was talking really hard with the exander? Was there a

lot

> > of swelling? Sorry for all the questions I am just a little

> > freaked out by all this. I'm 23 and went to get my separators

put

> > in at the orthodontist today and i felt like i was 10 years old

> > again. thanks,

> > Pete

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> Thanks I will definitely check that out. Any recomendations on

> specific types/flavors. I know myoplex and Metrex

I always go for the Myoplex Chocolate Variety pack. But I'm a friggin

chocolate addict, so don't read that to mean that the others are bad.

If you find a good supply store, they'll let you buy an individual

packet of each flavour to try them for yourself.

-john

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awesome. There is a GNC right by my apartment. I am defintiely

going to go before my surgery

>

> > Thanks I will definitely check that out. Any recomendations on

> > specific types/flavors. I know myoplex and Metrex

>

> I always go for the Myoplex Chocolate Variety pack. But I'm a

friggin

> chocolate addict, so don't read that to mean that the others are

bad.

> If you find a good supply store, they'll let you buy an individual

> packet of each flavour to try them for yourself.

>

> -john

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Watch the prices at GNC; they're usually too high. And NEVER

mention " GNC " in front of a bodybuilding crowd - they'll ridicule you

endlessly. :)

Best to find some small hardcore supply store; they're usually

called " Samson's Supplements " , or " Popeye's " etc. You'll know you're

in the right place when the guy helping you is wider than the door

you just walked through. They know their stuff, and the prices are

rock bottom.

-john

> awesome. There is a GNC right by my apartment. I am defintiely

> going to go before my surgery

>

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Pete,

Don't worry about too many questions--I have a bunch myself about the " big

surgery " I'm having in November and at 46 years old I am frightened and

very nervous about the recovery & the results.

I drank the Ensure because I liked the taste & it got calories into me. The

gatorade really quenched my thirst. I moved to soup with noodles and

chicken in it after 5 or 6 days. I was able to eat very smooth mashed

potatoes ( from Pudgies) pretty early in the recovery. The swelling was

noticeable as was the bruising on my cheecks, around my mouth and my neck.

This was all gone at the end of two weeks. Actually it was almost all gone

at the beginning of the 2nd week. At first my speech was very slurred, but

after a week it began to improve and continued too improve as my tongue got

used to working around the expander.

The first few days after the surgery I was convinced that I would not be

able to speak clearly until the expander was removed--this was not at all

the case. You must be carefull of what you eat- your ortho or surgeon will

tell you about that, but you will not be terribly restricted and will be

back to your normal routine quickly.

How much time can you take from work or school? I don't blame you for being

nervous-I was and I still am. Just know that if I at twice your age can get

thru this, so can you. Please ask any question, any time.

Cathryn

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>Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:19:27 -0000

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Thanks a lot Cathryn all of this info helped a lot. I have my

Pallet expansion surgery on August 8th and start school onthe 26th

so I think that will be enough time. I am sure Ill be asking you

more questions.

Pete

> Pete,

> Don't worry about too many questions--I have a bunch myself about

the " big

> surgery " I'm having in November and at 46 years old I am

frightened and

> very nervous about the recovery & the results.

> I drank the Ensure because I liked the taste & it got calories

into me. The

> gatorade really quenched my thirst. I moved to soup with noodles

and

> chicken in it after 5 or 6 days. I was able to eat very smooth

mashed

> potatoes ( from Pudgies) pretty early in the recovery. The

swelling was

> noticeable as was the bruising on my cheecks, around my mouth and

my neck.

> This was all gone at the end of two weeks. Actually it was almost

all gone

> at the beginning of the 2nd week. At first my speech was very

slurred, but

> after a week it began to improve and continued too improve as my

tongue got

> used to working around the expander.

> The first few days after the surgery I was convinced that I would

not be

> able to speak clearly until the expander was removed--this was not

at all

> the case. You must be carefull of what you eat- your ortho or

surgeon will

> tell you about that, but you will not be terribly restricted and

will be

> back to your normal routine quickly.

> How much time can you take from work or school? I don't blame you

for being

> nervous-I was and I still am. Just know that if I at twice your

age can get

> thru this, so can you. Please ask any question, any time.

> Cathryn

> >From: " petemassa " <pmassa@a...>

> >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport@y...

> >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport@y...

> >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] Re: [Orthognathic

Surgery

> >Support ] surgery

> >Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:19:27 -0000

> >

>

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Ill probably end up trying them both because I am sure I'll be

psyched to try anything new and get sick of the same stuff

> >

> ,

>

> I have to disagree with you here. Myoplex is an excellent

product,

> but Ensure is perfectly adequate for a 23 year old man.

>

> Cheryl

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Hi Cheryl,

I respect your opinion, but I stand by what I said. Pete's body will

be in recovery, and will be utilizing protein and other nutrients at

a higher rate. At that stage, I'm more interested in optimum than

adequate, and the 9 grams of protein in a can of Ensure doesn't cut

it.

Agreeing to disagree,

-john

> >

> ,

>

> I have to disagree with you here. Myoplex is an excellent product,

> but Ensure is perfectly adequate for a 23 year old man.

>

> Cheryl

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Yeah I am on a high protein diet now so I am defintiely going to try

to keep that up after my surgery. 9 grams isn't awful though as

long as its not all your getting

> > >

> > ,

> >

> > I have to disagree with you here. Myoplex is an excellent

product,

> > but Ensure is perfectly adequate for a 23 year old man.

> >

> > Cheryl

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> > >

> > ,

> >

> > I have to disagree with you here. Myoplex is an excellent

product,

> > but Ensure is perfectly adequate for a 23 year old man.

> >

> > Cheryl

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Cheryl,

> I'm certainly not going to get into an argument over Ensure. Shame

> I wasted all that time and energy on my Master's in Dietetics and

> Nutrition.

No argument intended.. just a simple disagreement. I apologize if I

offended you.

-john

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Yikes!

And I thought my marijuana debate was heated!

> > > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > I have to disagree with you here. Myoplex is an excellent

> product,

> > > but Ensure is perfectly adequate for a 23 year old man.

> > >

> > > Cheryl

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> Cheryl,

>

>

> > I'm certainly not going to get into an argument over Ensure.

Shame

> > I wasted all that time and energy on my Master's in Dietetics and

> > Nutrition.

>

> No argument intended.. just a simple disagreement. I apologize if I

> offended you.

>

>

>

No offense taken, ,

Think my pre surgery butterflies are turning to panic. Sorry if I

overreacted.

Cheryl

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Not to worry, Turtleish One, there will be no heated Ensure arguments

ensuing! (like how I used those two words together? :))

Peace, love, and a teeny bit of Jane to all.

-john

> Yikes!

>

> And I thought my marijuana debate was heated!

>

>

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> Think my pre surgery butterflies are turning to panic. Sorry if I

> overreacted.

Keep your chin up! And remember to cut me a little slack in return

when I hit my own pre-op panic stage. :)

-john

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