Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

May 30, 2010

,I am giving the benefit of the doubt, because as a dedicated contributor to this board and having ASD himself, I have found him to be anything but IGNORANT and very educated. I respect his opinion, am surprised by his comment, and can't wait for his explanation. I know it will be coming. :)CamTo: mb12 valtrex From: endofautism@...Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 17:03:27 -0700Subject: RE: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

I wouldn't say harsh, I'd say uneducated possibly ignorant about the man and his dedication to fight for our kids and their issues. He has put everything he holds dear on the line and the least we can do is to stand up for him.nancy jFrom: cam pearson <campearsonphotohotmail>Subject: RE: Dr.Wakefield on datelineTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 3:42 PM

WOW!! Kinda harsh, don't ya think?To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comFrom: thorenstd124@ yahoo.comDate: Sun, 30 May 2010 15:22:59 -0700Subject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

I hope they rip him a new body opening,unlike Matt Lauer,who was way too soft on that con man!

From: Amy Angeles <amy_angeles71@ yahoo.com>To: "mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com" <mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com>Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 4:20:20 PMSubject: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

Dr.Wakefeild is going to be on dateline tonight in Chicago area at 6pm. Sent from my iPhone

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May 30, 2010

His reply on the MB12 thread should shed some light on his feelings ;-)

,I am giving the benefit of the doubt, because as a dedicated contributor to this board and having ASD himself, I have found him to be anything but IGNORANT and very educated. I respect his opinion, am surprised by his comment, and can't wait for his explanation. I know it will be coming.

CamTo: mb12 valtrex From: endofautism@...

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 17:03:27 -0700Subject: RE: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

I wouldn't say harsh, I'd say uneducated possibly ignorant about the man and his dedication to fight for our kids and their issues. He has put everything he holds dear on the line and the least we can do is to stand up for him.

nancy j

Subject: RE: Dr.Wakefield on datelineTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 3:42 PM

WOW!! Kinda harsh, don't ya think?To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comFrom: thorenstd124@ yahoo.comDate: Sun, 30 May 2010 15:22:59 -0700Subject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

I hope they rip him a new body opening,unlike Matt Lauer,who was way too soft on that con man!

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Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 4:20:20 PMSubject: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

Dr.Wakefeild is going to be on dateline tonight in Chicago area at 6pm. Sent from my iPhone

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May 30, 2010

Hi Cam,

I don't mean ignorant (not in caps) as in stupid. I would never say that,

is obviously not, but sometimes we all can be ignorant (meaning uneducated on

specific things). I just hate to see someone who has put their entire future on

the line for our families be raked over the coals like this. But, we shall see

what the answer may be for this negative kind of attitude.

nancy j.

>

> Subject: RE: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 3:42 PM

>

> WOW!! Kinda harsh, don't ya think?

>

> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

> From: thorenstd124@ yahoo.com

> Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 15:22:59 -0700

> Subject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

>

> I hope they rip him a new body opening,unlike Matt Lauer,who was way too soft

on that con man!

>

> From: Amy Angeles <amy_angeles71@ yahoo.com>

> To: " mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com " <mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com>

> Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 4:20:20 PM

> Subject: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

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May 30, 2010

I'm watching Dateline now, on DVR.So Dr. Offitt is saying how much damage Dr. Wakefield has done to children... anyone know how many kids in the US and UK have died from Measles Mumps or Rubella who were unvaccinated since the Lancet published his hypothesis?

Hi Cam,

I don't mean ignorant (not in caps) as in stupid. I would never say that, is obviously not, but sometimes we all can be ignorant (meaning uneducated on specific things). I just hate to see someone who has put their entire future on the line for our families be raked over the coals like this. But, we shall see what the answer may be for this negative kind of attitude.

nancy j. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

May 31, 2010

From the CDC:

Most U. S. Measles Cases Reported since 1996

More measles cases have been reported in the United States since Jan. 1, 2008 than during the same period in any year since 1996, according to a report released today in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

Between January 1 and July 31, 2008, 131 cases were reported to CDCâ€²s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD). At least fifteen patients, including four children younger than 15 months of age, were hospitalized. No deaths have been reported.

In the decade before the measles vaccination program began, an estimated 3â€“4 million persons in the United States were infected each year. Of these, 400â€“500 died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and another 1,000 developed chronic disability from measles encephalitis.

â€œMeasles can be a severe, life-threatening illnessâ€ said Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of NCIRD. â€œThese cases and outbreaks serve as a reminder that measles can and still does occur in the United States.â€

Of the 131 patients, 112 were unvaccinated or had unknown vaccination status. Among the 112 unvaccinated U.S. residents with measles, 16 were younger than 12 months of age and too young for vaccination, and one had presumed evidence of measles immunity because the person was born before 1957.

Of the 95 patients eligible for vaccination, 63 were unvaccinated because of their or their parentsâ€² philosophical or religious beliefs.

Although immunization coverage rates for measles vaccine remain high, unvaccinated persons are at risk for measles, and sizeable measles outbreaks can occur in communities with a high number of unvaccinated persons.

Measles is consistently one of the first diseases to reappear when immunization coverage rates fall. Increases in the proportion of the population declining vaccination for themselves or their children might lead to large-scale outbreaks in the U.S. Currently, Israel and a number of countries in Europe -- including Switzerland, Austria, Italy, United Kingdom -- are reporting sizeable measles outbreaks among populations refusing vaccination.

â€œThese cases resulted primarily from failure to vaccinate, many because of philosophical or religious belief,â€ said Dr. Schuchat. â€œThe vaccine against measles is highly effective in preventing infections, and high immunization levels in the community are effective at preventing or drastically decreasing the size of outbreaks.â€

Reports include cases from Illinois (32 cases), New York (27), Washington (19), Arizona (14), California (14), Wisconsin (7), Michigan (4), Hawaii (5), Arkansas (2), and Washington, D.C., and Georgia, Louisiana, Missouri, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Virginia (1 each).

Nine of the importations were in U.S. residents who had traveled abroad, and 8 were in foreign visitors. An additional 99 of the 131 cases had evidence of importation or were epidemiologically linked to importations. These import-related cases have largely occurred among school-aged children who are eligible for vaccination but whose parents have chosen not to vaccinate them. The source of 15 cases could not be determined.

Of the 131 cases, 17 were importations from the following countries: Switzerland (3), Italy (3), Israel (2), Belgium (2), India (2), Germany (1), The Peopleâ€²s Republic of China (1), Pakistan (1), The Russian Federation (1) and the Philippines (1).

There were 55 cases of measles reported during 2006; 66 cases during 2005; 37 cases during 2004; 56 cases during 2003; and 44 cases during 2002.

####

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/media/pressrel/2008/r080821.htm

Hi Cam,I don't mean ignorant (not in caps) as in stupid. I would never say that, is obviously not, but sometimes we all can be ignorant (meaning uneducated on specific things). I just hate to see someone who has put their entire future on the line for our families be raked over the coals like this. But, we shall see what the answer may be for this negative kind of attitude.nancy j.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

May 31, 2010

My boy too and he remained ill with fevers greater than 103 for more than a week,developed thrombocytopenia,lost 10% of his body weight and was never the same. He did not lose skills like some kids do but he was "normal" until that point and did not continue to develop normally beyond that point. I agree that genetics could cause someone to be predisposed to develop Autism but I do not believe my child was born that way. He has a younger brother and sister who are NT and have each had one vaccine,he was diagnosed late,almost 4 thanks to our ped who ignored our concerns for almost 2 years. I am a medical professional and was ignorant about Autism,laughed at people who thought MMR caused it,no longer now I KNOW its

true. I live with the consequences of trusting an ignorant medical community every day.I can say that because I am part of that medical community,very few educate themselves,they just throw their opinions around.If genetics and a toxic mother were to blame it would seem all of our children would have Autism not just the FULLY vaccincated ones.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:22:34 PMSubject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

Wow ..... You know what mom always says, "If you don't have something nice to say...." sorry you feel that way about Wakefield. My son had a seizure immediately after he was given the MMR in the peds. office, so I support any man that fights to discover what vaccines do to our kids. He lost his license for my son and many other kids that now have biomed because of doctors like him.

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sun, May 30, 2010 3:22:59 PMSubject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

I hope they rip him a new body opening,unlike Matt Lauer,who was way too soft on that con man!

From: Amy Angeles <amy_angeles71@ yahoo.com>To: "mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com" <mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com>Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 4:20:20 PMSubject: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

Dr.Wakefeild is going to be on dateline tonight in Chicago area at 6pm. Sent from my iPhone

May 31, 2010

Notice how they go in-depth on all the non-vaccinated and don't mention

anything about the vaccinated ones who got measles. What about them?

What's their heritage? What's there ages? etc.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

From the CDC:

Most U. S. Measles Cases Reported since 1996

More measles cases have been reported in the United States since Jan. 1,

2008 than during the same period in any year since 1996, according to a

report released today in the Centers for Disease Control and

Prevention's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

Between January 1 and July 31, 2008, 131 cases were reported to CDCâ€²s

National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD). At

least fifteen patients, including four children younger than 15 months

of age, were hospitalized. No deaths have been reported.

In the decade before the measles vaccination program began, an estimated

3â€“4 million persons in the United States were infected each year. Of

these, 400â€“500 died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and another 1,000

developed chronic disability from measles encephalitis.

â€œMeasles can be a severe, life-threatening illnessâ€ said Dr. Anne

Schuchat, director of NCIRD. â€œThese cases and outbreaks serve as a

reminder that measles can and still does occur in the United States.â€

Of the 131 patients, 112 were unvaccinated or had unknown vaccination

status. Among the 112 unvaccinated U.S. residents with measles, 16 were

younger than 12 months of age and too young for vaccination, and one had

presumed evidence of measles immunity because the person was born before

1957.

Of the 95 patients eligible for vaccination, 63 were unvaccinated

because of their or their parentsâ€² philosophical or religious beliefs.

Although immunization coverage rates for measles vaccine remain high,

unvaccinated persons are at risk for measles, and sizeable measles

outbreaks can occur in communities with a high number of unvaccinated

persons.

Measles is consistently one of the first diseases to reappear when

immunization coverage rates fall. Increases in the proportion of the

population declining vaccination for themselves or their children might

lead to large-scale outbreaks in the U.S. Currently, Israel and a number

of countries in Europe -- including Switzerland, Austria, Italy, United

Kingdom -- are reporting sizeable measles outbreaks among populations

refusing vaccination.

â€œThese cases resulted primarily from failure to vaccinate, many

because of philosophical or religious belief,â€ said Dr. Schuchat.

â€œThe vaccine against measles is highly effective in preventing

infections, and high immunization levels in the community are effective

at preventing or drastically decreasing the size of outbreaks.â€

Reports include cases from Illinois (32 cases), New York (27),

Washington (19), Arizona (14), California (14), Wisconsin (7), Michigan

(4), Hawaii (5), Arkansas (2), and Washington, D.C., and Georgia,

Louisiana, Missouri, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Virginia (1 each).

Nine of the importations were in U.S. residents who had traveled abroad,

and 8 were in foreign visitors. An additional 99 of the 131 cases had

evidence of importation or were epidemiologically linked to

importations. These import-related cases have largely occurred among

school-aged children who are eligible for vaccination but whose parents

have chosen not to vaccinate them. The source of 15 cases could not be

determined.

Of the 131 cases, 17 were importations from the following countries:

Switzerland (3), Italy (3), Israel (2), Belgium (2), India (2), Germany

(1), The Peopleâ€²s Republic of China (1), Pakistan (1), The Russian

Federation (1) and the Philippines (1).

There were 55 cases of measles reported during 2006; 66 cases during

2005; 37 cases during 2004; 56 cases during 2003; and 44 cases during 2002.

####

May 31, 2010

You know what's funny, my ped. told me he had the seizure because he was crying too hard. I believed her, she's a doctor. Looking back at medical records, the past seizures he had were all withing days of vaccines. I also had a return visit after I think the 6 month vax for hard lumps at the injection site that wouldn't go away for a week or so. I feel many docs just throw around their opinions too. They learn what they learn in med school, and it's set in stone. Very few think for themselves or have a hunger to learn more, or think outside the box. I think all the vax took a toll on my son. He was showing signs of something wrong before the MMR, but he was always happy and smiling. After the MMR he had all the sensory issues and OCD pop up

along with the horrible self injurious behaviors. He started beating his head or kicking till he bled or throwing himself backward and cracking his head on the tile. Basically after the MMR, it got ugly. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 12:09:16 PMSubject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

My boy too and he remained ill with fevers greater than 103 for more than a week,developed thrombocytopenia, lost 10% of his body weight and was never the same. He did not lose skills like some kids do but he was "normal" until that point and did not continue to develop normally beyond that point. I agree that genetics could cause someone to be predisposed to develop Autism but I do not believe my child was born that way. He has a younger brother and sister who are NT and have each had one vaccine,he was diagnosed late,almost 4 thanks to our ped who ignored our concerns for almost 2 years. I am a medical professional and was ignorant about Autism,laughed at people who thought MMR caused it,no longer now I KNOW its

true. I live with the consequences of trusting an ignorant medical community every day.I can say that because I am part of that medical community,very few educate themselves,they just throw their opinions around.If genetics and a toxic mother were to blame it would seem all of our children would have Autism not just the FULLY vaccincated ones.

From: Greenberg <vegascurlsyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:22:34 PMSubject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

Wow ..... You know what mom always says, "If you don't have something nice to say...." sorry you feel that way about Wakefield. My son had a seizure immediately after he was given the MMR in the peds. office, so I support any man that fights to discover what vaccines do to our kids. He lost his license for my son and many other kids that now have biomed because of doctors like him.

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sun, May 30, 2010 3:22:59 PMSubject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

I hope they rip him a new body opening,unlike Matt Lauer,who was way too soft on that con man!

From: Amy Angeles <amy_angeles71@ yahoo.com>To: "mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com" <mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com>Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 4:20:20 PMSubject: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

Dr.Wakefeild is going to be on dateline tonight in Chicago area at 6pm. Sent from my iPhone

May 31, 2010

Yep, I thought the same thing.

Notice how they go in-depth on all the non-vaccinated and don't mention

anything about the vaccinated ones who got measles. What about them?

What's their heritage? What's there ages? etc.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

May 31, 2010

and to put the numbers in perspective....

The CDC reported that in 2008 there were 131 cases of measles in the US. In a

population of 300 million that's about 1 case in 2 million compare that to 1 in

110 cases of autism then ask where the US governments priorities are?

>

> Subject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 4:57 PM

> Notice how they go in-depth on all

> the non-vaccinated and don't mention

> anything about the vaccinated ones who got measles. What

> about them?

> What's their heritage? What's there ages? etc.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

> From the CDC:

>

> Most U. S. Measles Cases Reported since 1996

>

> More measles cases have been reported in the United States

> since Jan. 1,

> 2008 than during the same period in any year since 1996,

> according to a

> report released today in the Centers for Disease Control

> and

> Prevention's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

>

> Between January 1 and July 31, 2008, 131 cases were

> reported to CDCâ€²s

> National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases

> (NCIRD). At

> least fifteen patients, including four children younger

> than 15 months

> of age, were hospitalized. No deaths have been reported.

>

> In the decade before the measles vaccination program began,

> an estimated

> 3â€“4 million persons in the United States were infected

> each year. Of

> these, 400â€“500 died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and

> another 1,000

> developed chronic disability from measles encephalitis.

>

> â€œMeasles can be a severe, life-threatening illnessâ€

> said Dr. Anne

> Schuchat, director of NCIRD. â€œThese cases and outbreaks

> serve as a

> reminder that measles can and still does occur in the

> United States.â€

>

> Of the 131 patients, 112 were unvaccinated or had unknown

> vaccination

> status. Among the 112 unvaccinated U.S. residents with

> measles, 16 were

> younger than 12 months of age and too young for

> vaccination, and one had

> presumed evidence of measles immunity because the person

> was born before

> 1957.

>

> Of the 95 patients eligible for vaccination, 63 were

> unvaccinated

> because of their or their parentsâ€² philosophical or

> religious beliefs.

> Although immunization coverage rates for measles vaccine

> remain high,

> unvaccinated persons are at risk for measles, and sizeable

> measles

> outbreaks can occur in communities with a high number of

> unvaccinated

> persons.

>

> Measles is consistently one of the first diseases to

> reappear when

> immunization coverage rates fall. Increases in the

> proportion of the

> population declining vaccination for themselves or their

> children might

> lead to large-scale outbreaks in the U.S. Currently, Israel

> and a number

> of countries in Europe -- including Switzerland, Austria,

> Italy, United

> Kingdom -- are reporting sizeable measles outbreaks among

> populations

> refusing vaccination.

>

> â€œThese cases resulted primarily from failure to

> vaccinate, many

> because of philosophical or religious belief,â€ said Dr.

> Schuchat.

> â€œThe vaccine against measles is highly effective in

> preventing

> infections, and high immunization levels in the community

> are effective

> at preventing or drastically decreasing the size of

> outbreaks.â€

>

> Reports include cases from Illinois (32 cases), New York

> (27),

> Washington (19), Arizona (14), California (14), Wisconsin

> (7), Michigan

> (4), Hawaii (5), Arkansas (2), and Washington, D.C., and

> Georgia,

> Louisiana, Missouri, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Virginia

> (1 each).

>

> Nine of the importations were in U.S. residents who had

> traveled abroad,

> and 8 were in foreign visitors. An additional 99 of the 131

> cases had

> evidence of importation or were epidemiologically linked to

>

> importations. These import-related cases have largely

> occurred among

> school-aged children who are eligible for vaccination but

> whose parents

> have chosen not to vaccinate them. The source of 15 cases

> could not be

> determined.

>

> Of the 131 cases, 17 were importations from the following

> countries:

> Switzerland (3), Italy (3), Israel (2), Belgium (2), India

> (2), Germany

> (1), The Peopleâ€²s Republic of China (1), Pakistan (1),

> The Russian

> Federation (1) and the Philippines (1).

> There were 55 cases of measles reported during 2006; 66

> cases during

> 2005; 37 cases during 2004; 56 cases during 2003; and 44

> cases during 2002.

>

> ####

>

> ------------------------------------

>

May 31, 2010

Your doctor is an idiot,most are.I have a great hematologist,who is the first doctor I have ever seen,who will keep up with what's current in medicine.I mention something,he will immediately pull up an article about it,in front of me on his laptop.Most doctors will not,and have not kept up with anything since they left medical school.They ought to be recertified every few years.Wakefield aside,all this stuff about all these medical issues associated with autism,has come up in the last ten years or so.Many doctors think PANDAS is cute little fat black and white bears who eat bamboo.

The fact most doctors are morons,who have no real clue about anything,is why parents get desperate,and are driven to believe all sorts of crazy theories.

Autoimmune,or metabolic reactions to vaccines are a lot more common than most doctors are willing to admit.This gets back to something I have said before.Babies ought to be tested for all sorts of genetic markers for metabolic,and immune disease,soon after birth,even if it's optional testing that parents have to pay for it.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 3:12:36 PMSubject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

You know what's funny, my ped. told me he had the seizure because he was crying too hard. I believed her, she's a doctor. Looking back at medical records, the past seizures he had were all withing days of vaccines. I also had a return visit after I think the 6 month vax for hard lumps at the injection site that wouldn't go away for a week or so. I feel many docs just throw around their opinions too. They learn what they learn in med school, and it's set in stone. Very few think for themselves or have a hunger to learn more, or think outside the box. I think all the vax took a toll on my son. He was showing signs of something wrong before the MMR, but he was always happy and smiling. After the MMR he had all the sensory issues and OCD pop up along with the horrible self injurious behaviors. He started beating his head or kicking till he bled or throwing himself backward and cracking his head

on the tile. Basically after the MMR, it got ugly.

From: Melinda McCauley <melmattmcyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Mon, May 31, 2010 12:09:16 PMSubject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

My boy too and he remained ill with fevers greater than 103 for more than a week,developed thrombocytopenia, lost 10% of his body weight and was never the same. He did not lose skills like some kids do but he was "normal" until that point and did not continue to develop normally beyond that point. I agree that genetics could cause someone to be predisposed to develop Autism but I do not believe my child was born that way. He has a younger brother and sister who are NT and have each had one vaccine,he was diagnosed late,almost 4 thanks to our ped who ignored our concerns for almost 2 years. I am a medical professional and was ignorant about Autism,laughed at people who thought MMR caused it,no longer now I KNOW its true. I live with the consequences of trusting an ignorant medical community every day.I can say that because I am part of that medical community,very few educate

themselves,they just throw their opinions around.If genetics and a toxic mother were to blame it would seem all of our children would have Autism not just the FULLY vaccincated ones.

From: Greenberg <vegascurlsyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:22:34 PMSubject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

Wow ..... You know what mom always says, "If you don't have something nice to say...." sorry you feel that way about Wakefield. My son had a seizure immediately after he was given the MMR in the peds. office, so I support any man that fights to discover what vaccines do to our kids. He lost his license for my son and many other kids that now have biomed because of doctors like him.

From: Kulp <thorenstd124@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sun, May 30, 2010 3:22:59 PMSubject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

I hope they rip him a new body opening,unlike Matt Lauer,who was way too soft on that con man!

From: Amy Angeles <amy_angeles71@ yahoo.com>To: "mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com" <mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com>Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 4:20:20 PMSubject: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

Dr.Wakefeild is going to be on dateline tonight in Chicago area at 6pm. Sent from my iPhone

May 31, 2010

Excellent point!!nancy j

>

> Subject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 4:57 PM

> Notice how they go in-depth on all

> the non-vaccinated and don't mention

> anything about the vaccinated ones who got measles. What

> about them?

> What's their heritage? What's there ages? etc.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

> From the CDC:

>

> Most U. S. Measles Cases Reported since 1996

>

> More measles cases have been reported in the United States

> since Jan. 1,

> 2008 than during the same period in any year since 1996,

> according to a

> report released today in the Centers for Disease Control

> and

> Prevention's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

>

> Between January 1 and July 31, 2008, 131 cases were

> reported to CDCâ€²s

> National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases

> (NCIRD). At

> least fifteen patients, including four children younger

> than 15 months

> of age, were hospitalized. No deaths have been reported.

>

> In the decade before the measles vaccination program began,

> an estimated

> 3â€“4 million persons in the United States were infected

> each year. Of

> these, 400â€“500 died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and

> another 1,000

> developed chronic disability from measles encephalitis.

>

> â€œMeasles can be a severe, life-threatening illnessâ€

> said Dr. Anne

> Schuchat, director of NCIRD. â€œThese cases and outbreaks

> serve as a

> reminder that measles can and still does occur in the

> United States.â€

>

> Of the 131 patients, 112 were unvaccinated or had unknown

> vaccination

> status. Among the 112 unvaccinated U.S. residents with

> measles, 16 were

> younger than 12 months of age and too young for

> vaccination, and one had

> presumed evidence of measles immunity because the person

> was born before

> 1957.

>

> Of the 95 patients eligible for vaccination, 63 were

> unvaccinated

> because of their or their parentsâ€² philosophical or

> religious beliefs.

> Although immunization coverage rates for measles vaccine

> remain high,

> unvaccinated persons are at risk for measles, and sizeable

> measles

> outbreaks can occur in communities with a high number of

> unvaccinated

> persons.

>

> Measles is consistently one of the first diseases to

> reappear when

> immunization coverage rates fall. Increases in the

> proportion of the

> population declining vaccination for themselves or their

> children might

> lead to large-scale outbreaks in the U.S. Currently, Israel

> and a number

> of countries in Europe -- including Switzerland, Austria,

> Italy, United

> Kingdom -- are reporting sizeable measles outbreaks among

> populations

> refusing vaccination.

>

> â€œThese cases resulted primarily from failure to

> vaccinate, many

> because of philosophical or religious belief,â€ said Dr.

> Schuchat.

> â€œThe vaccine against measles is highly effective in

> preventing

> infections, and high immunization levels in the community

> are effective

> at preventing or drastically decreasing the size of

> outbreaks.â€

>

> Reports include cases from Illinois (32 cases), New York

> (27),

> Washington (19), Arizona (14), California (14), Wisconsin

> (7), Michigan

> (4), Hawaii (5), Arkansas (2), and Washington, D.C., and

> Georgia,

> Louisiana, Missouri, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Virginia

> (1 each).

>

> Nine of the importations were in U.S. residents who had

> traveled abroad,

> and 8 were in foreign visitors. An additional 99 of the 131

> cases had

> evidence of importation or were epidemiologically linked to

>

> importations. These import-related cases have largely

> occurred among

> school-aged children who are eligible for vaccination but

> whose parents

> have chosen not to vaccinate them. The source of 15 cases

> could not be

> determined.

>

> Of the 131 cases, 17 were importations from the following

> countries:

> Switzerland (3), Italy (3), Israel (2), Belgium (2), India

> (2), Germany

> (1), The Peopleâ€²s Republic of China (1), Pakistan (1),

> The Russian

> Federation (1) and the Philippines (1).

> There were 55 cases of measles reported during 2006; 66

> cases during

> 2005; 37 cases during 2004; 56 cases during 2003; and 44

> cases during 2002.

>

> ####

>

> ------------------------------------

>

May 31, 2010

OK so you're saying MMR can cause a genetc mutation?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 7:20:41 PMSubject: Re: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

Excellent point!!nancy j> From: allrpossible@ gmail.com <allrpossible@ gmail.com>> Subject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 4:57 PM> Notice how they go in-depth on all> the non-vaccinated and don't mention > anything about the vaccinated ones who got measles. What> about them? > What's their heritage? What's there ages? etc.> > Love and prayers,>

> Heidi N> > > > From the CDC:> > Most U. S. Measles Cases Reported since 1996> > More measles cases have been reported in the United States> since Jan. 1, > 2008 than during the same period in any year since 1996,> according to a > report released today in the Centers for Disease Control> and > Prevention's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.> > Between January 1 and July 31, 2008, 131 cases were> reported to CDCâ€²s > National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases> (NCIRD). At > least fifteen patients, including four children younger> than 15 months > of age, were hospitalized. No deaths have been reported.> > In the decade before the measles vaccination program began,> an estimated > 3â€“4 million persons in the United States were infected>

each year. Of > these, 400â€“500 died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and> another 1,000 > developed chronic disability from measles encephalitis.> > â€œMeasles can be a severe, life-threatening illnessâ€> said Dr. Anne > Schuchat, director of NCIRD. â€œThese cases and outbreaks> serve as a > reminder that measles can and still does occur in the> United States.â€> > Of the 131 patients, 112 were unvaccinated or had unknown> vaccination > status. Among the 112 unvaccinated U.S. residents with> measles, 16 were > younger than 12 months of age and too young for> vaccination, and one had > presumed evidence of measles immunity because the person> was born before > 1957.> > Of the 95 patients eligible for vaccination, 63 were> unvaccinated > because of their or their parentsâ€² philosophical

or> religious beliefs.> Although immunization coverage rates for measles vaccine> remain high, > unvaccinated persons are at risk for measles, and sizeable> measles > outbreaks can occur in communities with a high number of> unvaccinated > persons.> > Measles is consistently one of the first diseases to> reappear when > immunization coverage rates fall. Increases in the> proportion of the > population declining vaccination for themselves or their> children might > lead to large-scale outbreaks in the U.S. Currently, Israel> and a number > of countries in Europe -- including Switzerland, Austria,> Italy, United > Kingdom -- are reporting sizeable measles outbreaks among> populations > refusing vaccination.> > â€œThese cases resulted primarily from failure to> vaccinate, many

> because of philosophical or religious belief,â€ said Dr.> Schuchat. > â€œThe vaccine against measles is highly effective in> preventing > infections, and high immunization levels in the community> are effective > at preventing or drastically decreasing the size of> outbreaks.â€> > Reports include cases from Illinois (32 cases), New York> (27), > Washington (19), Arizona (14), California (14), Wisconsin> (7), Michigan > (4), Hawaii (5), Arkansas (2), and Washington, D.C., and> Georgia, > Louisiana, Missouri, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Virginia> (1 each).> > Nine of the importations were in U.S. residents who had> traveled abroad, > and 8 were in foreign visitors. An additional 99 of the 131> cases had > evidence of importation or were epidemiologically linked to> >

importations. These import-related cases have largely> occurred among > school-aged children who are eligible for vaccination but> whose parents > have chosen not to vaccinate them. The source of 15 cases> could not be > determined.> > Of the 131 cases, 17 were importations from the following> countries: > Switzerland (3), Italy (3), Israel (2), Belgium (2), India> (2), Germany > (1), The Peopleâ€²s Republic of China (1), Pakistan (1),> The Russian > Federation (1) and the Philippines (1).> There were 55 cases of measles reported during 2006; 66> cases during > 2005; 37 cases during 2004; 56 cases during 2003; and 44> cases during 2002.> > ####> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >

May 31, 2010

To put this in another perspective - isn't this a violation of minority rights to dismiss known cases (however few they maybe) based on studies & inferences drawn out of the majority population. Not the first time it has happened in history & does take brave & thoughtful men & women to bring about the change.It amazes me that some would go onto badmouth Parents esp mom's concern for their kids well being as crazy just because they disagree with it.To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 6:20:41 PMSubject: Re: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

Excellent point!!nancy j

> From: allrpossible@ gmail.com <allrpossible@ gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline

> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 4:57 PM

> Notice how they go in-depth on all

> the non-vaccinated and don't mention

> anything about the vaccinated ones who got measles. What

> about them?

> What's their heritage? What's there ages? etc.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

> From the CDC:

>

> Most U. S. Measles Cases Reported since 1996

>

> More measles cases have been reported in the United States

> since Jan. 1,

> 2008 than during the same period in any year since 1996,

> according to a

> report released today in the Centers for Disease Control

> and

> Prevention's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

>

> Between January 1 and July 31, 2008, 131 cases were

> reported to CDCâ€²s

> National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases

> (NCIRD). At

> least fifteen patients, including four children younger

> than 15 months

> of age, were hospitalized. No deaths have been reported.

>

> In the decade before the measles vaccination program began,

> an estimated

> 3â€“4 million persons in the United States were infected

> each year. Of

> these, 400â€“500 died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and

> another 1,000

> developed chronic disability from measles encephalitis.

>

> â€œMeasles can be a severe, life-threatening illnessâ€

> said Dr. Anne

> Schuchat, director of NCIRD. â€œThese cases and outbreaks

> serve as a

> reminder that measles can and still does occur in the

> United States.â€

>

> Of the 131 patients, 112 were unvaccinated or had unknown

> vaccination

> status. Among the 112 unvaccinated U.S. residents with

> measles, 16 were

> younger than 12 months of age and too young for

> vaccination, and one had

> presumed evidence of measles immunity because the person

> was born before

> 1957.

>

> Of the 95 patients eligible for vaccination, 63 were

> unvaccinated

> because of their or their parentsâ€² philosophical or

> religious beliefs.

> Although immunization coverage rates for measles vaccine

> remain high,

> unvaccinated persons are at risk for measles, and sizeable

> measles

> outbreaks can occur in communities with a high number of

> unvaccinated

> persons.

>

> Measles is consistently one of the first diseases to

> reappear when

> immunization coverage rates fall. Increases in the

> proportion of the

> population declining vaccination for themselves or their

> children might

> lead to large-scale outbreaks in the U.S. Currently, Israel

> and a number

> of countries in Europe -- including Switzerland, Austria,

> Italy, United

> Kingdom -- are reporting sizeable measles outbreaks among

> populations

> refusing vaccination.

>

> â€œThese cases resulted primarily from failure to

> vaccinate, many

> because of philosophical or religious belief,â€ said Dr.

> Schuchat.

> â€œThe vaccine against measles is highly effective in

> preventing

> infections, and high immunization levels in the community

> are effective

> at preventing or drastically decreasing the size of

> outbreaks.â€

>

> Reports include cases from Illinois (32 cases), New York

> (27),

> Washington (19), Arizona (14), California (14), Wisconsin

> (7), Michigan

> (4), Hawaii (5), Arkansas (2), and Washington, D.C., and

> Georgia,

> Louisiana, Missouri, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Virginia

> (1 each).

>

> Nine of the importations were in U.S. residents who had

> traveled abroad,

> and 8 were in foreign visitors. An additional 99 of the 131

> cases had

> evidence of importation or were epidemiologically linked to

>

> importations. These import-related cases have largely

> occurred among

> school-aged children who are eligible for vaccination but

> whose parents

> have chosen not to vaccinate them. The source of 15 cases

> could not be

> determined.

>

> Of the 131 cases, 17 were importations from the following

> countries:

> Switzerland (3), Italy (3), Israel (2), Belgium (2), India

> (2), Germany

> (1), The Peopleâ€²s Republic of China (1), Pakistan (1),

> The Russian

> Federation (1) and the Philippines (1).

> There were 55 cases of measles reported during 2006; 66

> cases during

> 2005; 37 cases during 2004; 56 cases during 2003; and 44

> cases during 2002.

>

> ####

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

May 31, 2010

"Parents always prefer to refer the case to a post-uterine,or a non congenital origin,partly because they think it frees them from the suspicion of heriditary influence,and partly from a notion the child is more likely to be restored to a pristine state."

Langdon Down "Mental Affections of Children and Youth" 1887.

I don't need to be told any of this.Perhaps you weren't here a couple of years ago when I joined this group,but here is my background.

I had the flu when I was five months old.Soon thereafter,I developed meningitis with pulmonary complications,and spent two months in the hospital, part of this time in an iron lung.This was what triggered my initial regression.I have had numerous pneumonias,meningitises, rheumatic fever,you name it.I have the GI disease,and all sorts of other mysterious pain and fever,ever since I was a child.Only now I know,most of this is due to systemic vasculitis,part genetic,part autoimmune,which I have just been diagnosed with.Some of my infections have triggered major regressions,lasting as long as two years.I was in diapers until I was nine years old.I liked to eat my own crap well into my teens.I was four when I was able to walk.That was when I started eloping,with what I now know to be MTHFR related symptoms similar to vascular dementia.I have been diagnosed with atypical autism,apraxias,and learning disabilities,and schizoid personality disorder.I

still cannot write with a pen or pencil.I am infertile,and had serious problems with sexual development.I was born with almost no muscles in my arms or chest.I eloped,head banged,and stimmed like a madman,until I started on MB12,folinic acid,and fish oil,in 2008-2009.Vinpocetine,and lithium orotate made my recovery from "autism" complete a few months ago.I have MTHFR related stroke like episodes that also went away with MB12.At least one sister has childhood onset bipolar,autism,learning disabilities,type I diabetes,epilepsy,and an infection history similar to mine,although no immune disease has ever been found in either of us.

Nobody wants to find a cure for this garbage any more than I do,but vaccines are a dead end,you are looking for causes that don't exist.Mothers can be exposed to diseases and toxins while pregnant with one child,but not while pregnant with their other children.

A trigger is not the same as a cause!

Just because the doctors you have seen are too stupid to figure this out,and most are,doesn't mean you have to believe this vaccine stuff.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 1:09:16 PMSubject: Re: Dr.Wakefield on dateline