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what about the bed tents would that work as well and be tons cheaper?

kim lauger wrote:

> When Dylan's doctor found out he was 8 and still in a crib he was

> amazed.

> The trick is that he likes it in there, he can climb out if he wants,

> but he

> does not choose to. Even in his wild states he stays in the crib,

> which

> tells me it is meeting his needs. Unfortunately he is outgrowing it.

> I want

> the Vail Bed for him to have a twin size version of the same thing.

>

> My approach is working to get more medical information about the

> irregularities of Dylan's nervous system. I firmly believe these are

> not

> just behaviors in the sense of throwing to get attention (actually I

> work

> really hard at keeping it from progressing to that point, another

> reason to

> need the bed) but are physical manifestations of what is happening

> within

> his body. My documentation and that of the OT who sent in info

> supports

> that.

>

> As the articles that are to be published in the American Journal of

> Medical

> Genetics on behavior in CHARGE, I think they will help support the

> physical

> nature of these problems.

>

> I also know that one fear of the state insurance plan Dylan is on, is

> if we

> approve it for one, we have to approve it for all, so they deny for

> everyone.

>

> As I said, we will keep plugging away at it. At least they are

> willing to

> talk with me about it, instead of sending out a blanket denial letter.

>

> (If anyone knows of an adult size playpen with mesh sides, this would

> also

> meet his needs, but since it is not developmentally appropriate, I

> don't

> think they are out there - instead folks just get restrained to their

> chairs

> with posey jackets to preserve their dignity. Ha!)

>

> Kim

>

> Re: Vail Bed

>

>

> In a message dated 9/10/04 12:48:38 PM, CHARGE writes:

>

> << I knew it would be a miracle to get it funded, but I am not done

> advocating

>

> for it yet. >>

>

> Kim--

>

> I hope you're successful getting the bed funded. Please let me know

> your

> approach. Eddie ( 5 next month) still fits nicely in his crib, but the

> day

> will

> come soon when we'll be where you are now.

>

> Joanne

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership

> in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> 7th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Miami Beach, Florida, July 22-24, 2005.

> Information will be available at our website

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. In Canada, you

> may

> contact CHARGE Syndrome Canada at 1- (families), visit

> www.chargesyndrome.ca, or email info@.... Thank you!

>

>

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For Dylan, the tents are confining and scary, they are not see through, they

do not have the resonance or the feel of the nets, or the strength to endure

a " Dylan party " , or the ability to keep him from getting out of bed at night

unsupervised. I have looked at lots of different ones, to see if I could

find one that I can envision Dylan being comfortable in.

Kim

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>

>

> In a message dated 9/10/04 12:48:38 PM, CHARGE writes:

>

> << I knew it would be a miracle to get it funded, but I am not done

> advocating

>

> for it yet. >>

>

> Kim--

>

> I hope you're successful getting the bed funded. Please let me know

> your

> approach. Eddie ( 5 next month) still fits nicely in his crib, but the

> day

> will

> come soon when we'll be where you are now.

>

> Joanne

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership

> in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> 7th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Miami Beach, Florida, July 22-24, 2005.

> Information will be available at our website

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. In Canada, you

> may

> contact CHARGE Syndrome Canada at 1- (families), visit

> www.chargesyndrome.ca, or email info@.... Thank you!

>

>

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Kim-

Here's what we did for Aubrie. She also never tried to climb out of her

crib. I liked knowing that she wouldn't wake and wander the house while

I slept. So when we were ready for something twin sized, we built a

picket fence bed. The bad thing is that it's unsafe as far as CPSC

guidelines. If she did climb out, she could get caught on one of the

pickets. But we knew she wouldn't. A different kind of bed could be

built for a boy that didn't have slats. Would he enjoy any kind of

box-like bed -- you know, with walls maybe a foot high. Enough to give

parameters that he won't climb out of even though he physically could.

Then you could decorate it to be a fire truck, a race car, whatever

would please him.

This year, we took the end off so that she can get in and out on her own

but she still has the sides to protect from falling out. She is all

over in her sleep and even she feels most comfortable with the

barriers. We gave her the choice of taking off a side or the end.

I know it's not something that will work for everyone, but it has worked

well for us so far. Maybe it'll spark your imagination to come up with

something that will meet your needs until you can get funding for the

Vail bed.

Michele W

Aubrie's mom

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we just got approved for a bed for erika. it is a safe sleeper bed.

_www.safesleeper.com_ (http://www.safesleeper.com) it is a safety bed. it has

12

inch clear bed rails so she can see out and the one we got folds up 12 and

then another 12 for a total of 24 inches if you need it. trys to pull

her self up now with her toys r us bed rail. and she has also gotten stuck in

it and has taken it down. i had to fight to get it paid for, and even went

as far as a fair hearing but i won. i also showed them an article i had onthe

# of bed deaths from children getting stuck in between the rails and the

mattress.

we haven gotten the bed yet, it was jsut ordered. it is $5,000.

cathie, mom to erika

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we just got approved for a bed for erika. it is a safe sleeper bed.

_www.safesleeper.com_ (http://www.safesleeper.com) it is a safety bed. it has

12

inch clear bed rails so she can see out and the one we got folds up 12 and

then another 12 for a total of 24 inches if you need it. trys to pull

her self up now with her toys r us bed rail. and she has also gotten stuck in

it and has taken it down. i had to fight to get it paid for, and even went

as far as a fair hearing but i won. i also showed them an article i had onthe

# of bed deaths from children getting stuck in between the rails and the

mattress.

we haven gotten the bed yet, it was jsut ordered. it is $5,000.

cathie, mom to erika

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DDD likes the safe sleeper bed better, because it is not enclosed - it still

makes no sense to me, because if you put the rail all the way up, they can't

get out anyway and that is the point.

With the amount of kicking Dylan does in bed and the amount of resonance one

gets from the plexiglass, I am afraid it would be too intense - I much

prefer the mesh, plus the mesh is something he is familiar and comfortable

with. If the rails of the safe sleeper bed are up, I think he will feel

confined. One bed may be comfortable for one child and not for another, yet

the admins make decisions based on what they think would be comfortable, not

having lived with our child and knowing the experiences they find comforting

and the ones they find confining.

I am happy you got the bed for . I think you started the process a

little before me, so I am still working at it.

Kim

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we just got approved for a bed for erika. it is a safe sleeper bed.

_www.safesleeper.com_ (http://www.safesleeper.com) it is a safety bed. it

has 12

inch clear bed rails so she can see out and the one we got folds up 12 and

then another 12 for a total of 24 inches if you need it. trys to

pull

her self up now with her toys r us bed rail. and she has also gotten stuck

in

it and has taken it down. i had to fight to get it paid for, and even went

as far as a fair hearing but i won. i also showed them an article i had

onthe

# of bed deaths from children getting stuck in between the rails and the

mattress.

we haven gotten the bed yet, it was jsut ordered. it is $5,000.

cathie, mom to erika

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DDD likes the safe sleeper bed better, because it is not enclosed - it still

makes no sense to me, because if you put the rail all the way up, they can't

get out anyway and that is the point.

With the amount of kicking Dylan does in bed and the amount of resonance one

gets from the plexiglass, I am afraid it would be too intense - I much

prefer the mesh, plus the mesh is something he is familiar and comfortable

with. If the rails of the safe sleeper bed are up, I think he will feel

confined. One bed may be comfortable for one child and not for another, yet

the admins make decisions based on what they think would be comfortable, not

having lived with our child and knowing the experiences they find comforting

and the ones they find confining.

I am happy you got the bed for . I think you started the process a

little before me, so I am still working at it.

Kim

Re: Vail Bed

we just got approved for a bed for erika. it is a safe sleeper bed.

_www.safesleeper.com_ (http://www.safesleeper.com) it is a safety bed. it

has 12

inch clear bed rails so she can see out and the one we got folds up 12 and

then another 12 for a total of 24 inches if you need it. trys to

pull

her self up now with her toys r us bed rail. and she has also gotten stuck

in

it and has taken it down. i had to fight to get it paid for, and even went

as far as a fair hearing but i won. i also showed them an article i had

onthe

# of bed deaths from children getting stuck in between the rails and the

mattress.

we haven gotten the bed yet, it was jsut ordered. it is $5,000.

cathie, mom to erika

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Kim-

I can take a photo and email it to you privately. I'm not skilled at

posting yet. I know it's not hard, but I just don't have time to get it

figured out, make sure I'm logged in right, etc.

Michele W

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