RE: Personal Trainers Performing Physical Therapy in North Dakota

June 3, 2010

Actually, I would ask what is wrong with that? Extended care for those that are

interested in a cash service.

Morrow, MS

Director of Consulting and Outpatient Services

Monroe Clinic

515 22nd Avenue

Monroe, WI 53566

Personal Trainers performing Physical Therapy in North Dakota

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The road to recovery after an injury or surgery can be a long one. Physical

therapy can be a crucial tool in the healing process.

Physical therapy makes a big difference immediately following an injury or

operation. But once patients have less pain and are more functional, they

can still benefit from clinical exercise directed by doctors and trainers.

Regaining strength and mobility after an accident or intense surgery can be

a lengthy process. In many cases, patients might not have reached their

optimum potential after the few physical therapy sessions covered by

insurance.

" We are the bridge between the discharge from physical therapy and

function, " said Pam Redline, Redline Exercise RX and Personal Training. " We

start off all our clients from a doctor, physical therapist, chiropractor,

and they will give us orders on how they want the client to proceed in

care. "

Redline meets with clients ranging from people recovering from car

accidents, to older adults regaining function after knee or hip

replacements.

Redline said, " Sometimes people need a little bit longer term care, and they

know if they stop they will either digress or they will stay the same and

not progress. "

Joyce Tello is a more flexible and high functioning client. Her training

with Redline might be more advanced than other clients, but it is still

specially designed to benefit her needs.

" It was the piece of my lifestyle , of the puzzle, that needed to be put in

place. That is exercise, pilates, strength training, yoga. I needed it for

bone health and circulation and strength and balance, " said Tello.

Over the past several months, Tello has definitely seen the results and

health benefits from the specially designed training.

Tello said, " I`m 100 percent committed to this. "

The duration of prescription exercise therapy varies from patient to

patient, but Redline says she is devoted to making sure each one of her

clients reaches their highest level of recovery.

To learn more about Redline Exercise RX and Personal Training, you can visit

her Web site at redlinerx.com. < http://www.redlinerx.com/ >

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I went to the company's Website but could only ascertain that the " Physical

Therapy " intervention was performed by personal trainers. Is that

acceptable in North Dakota?

Kunkel PT, PhD, MLD-CDT

June 3, 2010

I agree, this is outrageous.

However, we need to look at what our profession has done to allow this to

happen.

Many PT's focus on passive interventions (modalities, myofascial release, soft

tissue work..) for far too long in the clinic, rather than active interventions.

Personal trainers stress, market, and sell themselves as the ones who address

issues with active interventions (exercise, training), as well as educators on

how to exercise and use certain equipment.

Many physicians get frustrated with the excessive passive and redundant

interventions of physical therapy. Personal trainers market to physicians that

they will train and exercise their patient's while the physical therapist says,

" no, you are not ready to exercise because you have this trigger

point/dysfunctional joint.... that won't go away, we need to fix that first. "

We are cutting out our throat's, again. Personal trainers are not trained or

capable of dealing with pathology. Yet, they continue to move forward while we

PT's, in our starched lab coats, focus on a dysfunctional facet joint, or a

trigger point, without addressing the functional needs of the patient to

participate in life.

At what point will our profession treat patients as people in need of functional

restoration rather that perpetuating dysfunction.

PS, I have a clinic in a 140000 sq foot health and wellness center as well as a

free standing out patient ortho clinic and see patients 40 hours a week.

Thank you for your time.

Roll PT, OCS, FAAOMPT

Ocean Springs, MS

>

> Where is the state licensing board in North Dakota? This is OUTRAGEOUS!

>

> Linnea Comstock

>

> Olympia WA

>

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> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:15:32 -0400

> Subject: Personal Trainers performing Physical Therapy in North

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> Subject: Personal Trainers performing Physical Therapy in North Dakota

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> The road to recovery after an injury or surgery can be a long one. Physical

> therapy can be a crucial tool in the healing process.

>

> Physical therapy makes a big difference immediately following an injury or

> operation. But once patients have less pain and are more functional, they

> can still benefit from clinical exercise directed by doctors and trainers.

>

> Regaining strength and mobility after an accident or intense surgery can be

> a lengthy process. In many cases, patients might not have reached their

> optimum potential after the few physical therapy sessions covered by

> insurance.

>

> " We are the bridge between the discharge from physical therapy and

> function, " said Pam Redline, Redline Exercise RX and Personal Training. " We

> start off all our clients from a doctor, physical therapist, chiropractor,

> and they will give us orders on how they want the client to proceed in

> care. "

>

> Redline meets with clients ranging from people recovering from car

> accidents, to older adults regaining function after knee or hip

> replacements.

>

> Redline said, " Sometimes people need a little bit longer term care, and they

> know if they stop they will either digress or they will stay the same and

> not progress. "

>

> Joyce Tello is a more flexible and high functioning client. Her training

> with Redline might be more advanced than other clients, but it is still

> specially designed to benefit her needs.

>

> " It was the piece of my lifestyle , of the puzzle, that needed to be put in

> place. That is exercise, pilates, strength training, yoga. I needed it for

> bone health and circulation and strength and balance, " said Tello.

>

> Over the past several months, Tello has definitely seen the results and

> health benefits from the specially designed training.

>

> Tello said, " I`m 100 percent committed to this. "

>

> The duration of prescription exercise therapy varies from patient to

> patient, but Redline says she is devoted to making sure each one of her

> clients reaches their highest level of recovery.

>

> To learn more about Redline Exercise RX and Personal Training, you can visit

> her Web site at redlinerx.com. <http://www.redlinerx.com/>

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> I went to the company's Website but could only ascertain that the " Physical

> Therapy " intervention was performed by personal trainers. Is that

> acceptable in North Dakota?

>

> Kunkel PT, PhD, MLD-CDT

>

June 3, 2010

Why is the PT involved not doing the same thing. If your service is

seen as a benefit to the patient instead of a requirement by the MD, the

patient will not want to go somewhere else, especially someone who took

a weekend certification course to find out gym training, not how it

applies to different individuals depending on age, co morbidities, etc.

I do not let my patients do that until they are at the point where a gym

workout is good for them. At that point, I go with them and show them

what they can do. I communicate with trainers there, but they do not

continue my POC.

We have to sell ourselves. Call it an extended fitness plan or some

other program. There is nothing wrong with it, but the patient should

stay with the PT until goals have been met. You don't D/C PT just

because the insurance companies say so. If the patient will pay a gym,

they will pay a PT. Take advantage of the situation.

Ruchin, PT, DPT

Atlanta Rehabilitation and Performance Center, Inc.

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Subject: Re: Personal Trainers performing Physical Therapy

in North Dakota

Actually, I would ask what is wrong with that? Extended care for those

that are interested in a cash service.

Morrow, MS

Director of Consulting and Outpatient Services

Monroe Clinic

515 22nd Avenue

Monroe, WI 53566

Personal Trainers performing Physical Therapy in North Dakota

Physical Therapy Helps Healing Process |

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Juli Mc

6/1/2010

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The road to recovery after an injury or surgery can be a long one.

Physical

therapy can be a crucial tool in the healing process.

Physical therapy makes a big difference immediately following an injury

or

operation. But once patients have less pain and are more functional,

they

can still benefit from clinical exercise directed by doctors and

trainers.

Regaining strength and mobility after an accident or intense surgery can

be

a lengthy process. In many cases, patients might not have reached their

optimum potential after the few physical therapy sessions covered by

insurance.

" We are the bridge between the discharge from physical therapy and

function, " said Pam Redline, Redline Exercise RX and Personal Training.

" We

start off all our clients from a doctor, physical therapist,

chiropractor,

and they will give us orders on how they want the client to proceed in

care. "

Redline meets with clients ranging from people recovering from car

accidents, to older adults regaining function after knee or hip

replacements.

Redline said, " Sometimes people need a little bit longer term care, and

they

know if they stop they will either digress or they will stay the same

and

not progress. "

Joyce Tello is a more flexible and high functioning client. Her training

with Redline might be more advanced than other clients, but it is still

specially designed to benefit her needs.

" It was the piece of my lifestyle , of the puzzle, that needed to be put

in

place. That is exercise, pilates, strength training, yoga. I needed it

for

bone health and circulation and strength and balance, " said Tello.

Over the past several months, Tello has definitely seen the results and

health benefits from the specially designed training.

Tello said, " I`m 100 percent committed to this. "

The duration of prescription exercise therapy varies from patient to

patient, but Redline says she is devoted to making sure each one of her

clients reaches their highest level of recovery.

To learn more about Redline Exercise RX and Personal Training, you can

visit

her Web site at redlinerx.com. < http://www.redlinerx.com/ >

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I went to the company's Website but could only ascertain that the

" Physical

Therapy " intervention was performed by personal trainers. Is that

acceptable in North Dakota?

Kunkel PT, PhD, MLD-CDT

June 3, 2010