Re: IMMEDIATE HELP PLEASE?

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I had a similar problem a few years ago when I took oral EDTA for a bone

spur. I thought I had removed most of my mercury and arsenic with chelation

a few years before but began having lots of difficulty while on the EDTA and

the tell-tale metallic breath. It seemd to free up the metals without

removing all of it. Two rounds of DMPS eliminated the problems. I used IV

DMPS but if you are uncomfortable with that, you could do it orally or

perhaps use DMSA but DMPS would be my choice since it removes mercury better.

Gaylen

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I forgot to mention that alfalfa and vitamin C helped provide temporary

symptom relief and probably did some blood cleansing while I waited to use

the DMPS to properly remove the freed-up metals.

Also, I did a few rounds of cilantro tea years ago when first starting to

detox and found it caused extreme pain in my legs and arms. Not sure if this

was metals being freed up or an allergic response of some sort but given your

symptoms, I'd discontinue it at least for awhile.

Gaylen

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> Any ideas on how to get the mobilized mercury out

> quickly and safely if it's in my tissues? Thanks for any help you can

> offer........kira

Hi Kira,

What I would call proper chelation. Andy's protocol.

Start by taking lots of vitamins 4 times a day and chelate with DMSA and ALA,

taking them every 3-4 hours.

You can find all the details in the Files. In case you have any question,

please ask more

I think the vitamins would be very important now, for immediate help.

Did you try milk thistle? (just an idea...)

Valentina

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> Hi there,

> and thanks to Moria and Andy who responded to my " Help a Newbie "

> post. I apologize if this is an inappropriate site to post to

it is perfectly fine

This list is about chelation. and other things

> --am

> posting to any and all related to mercury. I am wondering if anyone

> has any immediate suggestions for me........I had my amalgams out +

> vitamin/mineral intravenous chelation five years ago, then nothing

> till now. I have MS and Hashimoto's and have been thrown into major

> exacerbation by new round of chelation with naturo, using EDTA and

> lots of cilantro.

I don't know what naturo is but would suggest that you start

by IMMEDIATLY stopping all 3 of these -- that is stop naturo,

stop EDTA, and stop cilantro.

> Major weakness and spasms and MS symptoms. I am

> helping my liver with Taurine, drinking lots of water, and taking

> charcoal tabs. Any ideas on how to get the mobilized mercury out

> quickly and safely if it's in my tissues?

I am sorry that I have never really got this part down pat about

what to do with current exposures and redistribution etc.

I think charcoal is fine, and possibly helpful. Also

selenium. See:

/message/807

this post might be interesting? (which I have pulled from

ANDY_INDEX file):

/message/34318 what can be

done AFTER a bad reaction to DMPS injections?

best wishes,

Moria

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Whoops, I forgot to say: then in a week or so you can start

low dose every 3/4 hours chelation with one or more of

DMSA/DMPS/ALA. But most important I think is to stop the

other chelation agents right away.

Moria

> > Hi there,

> > and thanks to Moria and Andy who responded to my " Help a Newbie "

> > post. I apologize if this is an inappropriate site to post to

>

> it is perfectly fine

> This list is about chelation. and other things

>

> > --am

> > posting to any and all related to mercury. I am wondering if

anyone

> > has any immediate suggestions for me........I had my amalgams out

+

> > vitamin/mineral intravenous chelation five years ago, then nothing

> > till now. I have MS and Hashimoto's and have been thrown into

major

> > exacerbation by new round of chelation with naturo, using EDTA and

> > lots of cilantro.

>

> I don't know what naturo is but would suggest that you start

> by IMMEDIATLY stopping all 3 of these -- that is stop naturo,

> stop EDTA, and stop cilantro.

>

> > Major weakness and spasms and MS symptoms. I am

> > helping my liver with Taurine, drinking lots of water, and taking

> > charcoal tabs. Any ideas on how to get the mobilized mercury out

> > quickly and safely if it's in my tissues?

>

> I am sorry that I have never really got this part down pat about

> what to do with current exposures and redistribution etc.

> I think charcoal is fine, and possibly helpful. Also

> selenium. See:

> /message/807

>

> this post might be interesting? (which I have pulled from

> ANDY_INDEX file):

> /message/34318 what can

be

> done AFTER a bad reaction to DMPS injections?

>

> best wishes,

> Moria

[Guest guest]

> Hi there,

> and thanks to Moria and Andy who responded to my " Help a Newbie "

> post. I apologize if this is an inappropriate site to post to--am

> posting to any and all related to mercury. I am wondering if anyone

> has any immediate suggestions for me........I had my amalgams out +

> vitamin/mineral intravenous chelation five years ago, then nothing

> till now. I have MS and Hashimoto's and have been thrown into major

> exacerbation by new round of chelation with naturo, using EDTA and

> lots of cilantro. Major weakness and spasms and MS symptoms. I am

> helping my liver with Taurine, drinking lots of water, and taking

> charcoal tabs. Any ideas on how to get the mobilized mercury out

> quickly and safely if it's in my tissues? Thanks for any help you

can

> offer........kira

I already answered this privately with accurate information.

This is the kind of situation where people mess up REALLY BADLY by

desparately trying a lot of random stuff they get off the internet and

getting much, much worse (and their doctors usually help by doing some

random things they heard from some other doc who doesn't know what

they are doing). It is very important to calm down, wait it out, and

take safe steps to suppress symptoms rather than trying a bunch more

interventions. . .. . . . . . .

Andy . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . .

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> I had a similar problem a few years ago when I took oral EDTA for a

bone

> spur. I thought I had removed most of my mercury and arsenic with

chelation

> a few years before but began having lots of difficulty while on the

EDTA and

> the tell-tale metallic breath. It seemd to free up the metals

without

> removing all of it. Two rounds of DMPS eliminated the problems. I

used IV

> DMPS

I would consider her another candidate for a lethal adverse reaction.

There are only 4 of those I know about so far. The more common

adverse recactions that people survive are described at

www.dmpsbackfire.com.

This is the kind of desparate random intervention I was cautioning

about in my earlier e-mail. There are many physicians I know who

would do this. I know of one case where the phsician in fact DID use

a DMPS injection in an effort to clear up an adverse reaction of this

type and did think the patient was going to die. The patient did

survive but the alternative doc was so concerned that she spent

several days begging her mainstream colleagues to admit the patient to

a hospital and treat her appropriately. . .. . .

>but if you are uncomfortable with that, you could do it orally or

> perhaps use DMSA but DMPS would be my choice since it removes

mercury better.

> Gaylen

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message ha

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Thanks for responding Valentina

> > Any ideas on how to get the mobilized mercury out

> > quickly and safely if it's in my tissues? Thanks for any help you

can

> > offer........kira

>

> Hi Kira,

> What I would call proper chelation. Andy's protocol.

> Start by taking lots of vitamins 4 times a day and chelate with

DMSA and ALA,

> taking them every 3-4 hours.

> You can find all the details in the Files. In case you have any

question,

> please ask more

> I think the vitamins would be very important now, for immediate

help.

> Did you try milk thistle? (just an idea...)

>

> Valentina

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Thank Gaylen,

I don't know if I mentioned this, but I did cilantro tincture and

heavily-cilantro'd-pesto at the same time as the EDTA; not doing

anything halfway, I went a little overboard with the " more is better "

theme--and extreme pain is what I got. kira

> I forgot to mention that alfalfa and vitamin C helped provide

temporary

> symptom relief and probably did some blood cleansing while I waited

to use

> the DMPS to properly remove the freed-up metals.

>

> Also, I did a few rounds of cilantro tea years ago when first

starting to

> detox and found it caused extreme pain in my legs and arms. Not

sure if this

> was metals being freed up or an allergic response of some sort but

given your

> symptoms, I'd discontinue it at least for awhile.

> Gaylen

>

>

>

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> Thank Gaylen,

> I don't know if I mentioned this, but I did cilantro tincture and

> heavily-cilantro'd-pesto at the same time as the EDTA; not doing

> anything halfway, I went a little overboard with the " more is

better "

> theme--and extreme pain is what I got. kira

FYI, I think each may be probelmatic.

Cilantro appears is likely a chelator. I have read a few

of accounts of adults getting better OR worse OR better then

worse using it. I think timing is the issue here (as with

other chelation agents).

best wishes,

Moria