Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 /files/Andy_dose_sched This link to the files should help, cehck out the other files too - heaps of info > I saw it mentioned on a previous post about a dr. recommending > ALA /100mg everyday. Could someone please explain why this is > dangerous and/or not a good idea? I'm new to the whole chelation > thing. Thanks > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 > I saw it mentioned on a previous post about a dr. recommending > ALA /100mg everyday. Could someone please explain why this is > dangerous and/or not a good idea? I'm new to the whole chelation > thing. Thanks It will take all the mercury available in the person's body and slam it into their brain, making them much more toxic. Andy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 > I saw it mentioned on a previous post about a dr. recommending > ALA /100mg everyday. Could someone please explain why this is > dangerous and/or not a good idea? I'm new to the whole chelation > thing. Thanks It will take all the mercury available in the person's body and slam it into their brain, making them much more toxic. Andy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 It will move mercury around w/o moving it out of the body. nne > I saw it mentioned on a previous post about a dr. recommending > ALA /100mg everyday. Could someone please explain why this is > dangerous and/or not a good idea? I'm new to the whole chelation > thing. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 > I saw it mentioned on a previous post about a dr. recommending > ALA /100mg everyday. Could someone please explain why this is > dangerous and/or not a good idea? Also, all that metal constantly moving thru your body without any chance for your body and organs to rest, is not a good idea. Much too stressful, at least in my opinion. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 > I saw it mentioned on a previous post about a dr. recommending > ALA /100mg everyday. Could someone please explain why this is > dangerous and/or not a good idea? I'm new to the whole chelation > thing. Thanks well, like everything about chelation, this is something experts disagree radically about. Andy's understanding of chemestry says that when you take a chelation agent, and then you STOP, there is mercury loose that then gets redistributed -- and is attracted to the places that are attracted to mercury, such as the brain and liver. So, Andy's method of chelation calls for taking the chelation agents frequently enough to keep the chelation going steadily for many doses. You still get a little redistribution, on the last dose, but the majority of the time you don't. This requires taking the chelators very often. There are MANY MANY methods of chelation that do not do it this way--- they use the chelation agents once a day -- or whatever-- like the one you cited. Many people have had bad results this way. Some have had okay results. Some have had disasterous results. There are also many variations on the dosing method. For instance, DMPS injections (one big dose, injected, maybe once a month) is more " extreme " than ALA once a day, but both also are start/stop on EACH dose. If you'd like to read a dozen or two commentaries on this, each slightly restated, you can go here: /files/ANDY_INDEX and look for the section on " steady bloodstream level of chelation agents and " bad " protocols " . Read it all, or until you get bored LOL. If you would like to see more about Andy's timing methods, see the section (in the same file) about dose timing, or read: /files/Andy_dose_sched If you would like some evidence of people with bad results, you can try: http://www.dmpsbackfire.com/default.shtml /surveys?id=495865 There are people on this list (now and in the past) who have used less-frequent timing and have had very bad results. There are also those who have & do use it and think it is working just fine. I have never tried less frequent timing, myself. best wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 Thanks for all the great information. Can someone clarify if it is ok to ONLY use ALA without DMSA but just not everyday? Thanks > > I saw it mentioned on a previous post about a dr. recommending > > ALA /100mg everyday. Could someone please explain why this is > > dangerous and/or not a good idea? I'm new to the whole chelation > > thing. Thanks > > well, like everything about chelation, this is something experts > disagree radically about. > > Andy's understanding of chemestry says that when you take a > chelation agent, and then you STOP, there is mercury loose > that then gets redistributed -- and is attracted to the places > that are attracted to mercury, such as the brain and liver. > So, Andy's method of chelation calls for taking the chelation > agents frequently enough to keep the chelation going steadily > for many doses. You still get a little redistribution, on the > last dose, but the majority of the time you don't. This requires > taking the chelators very often. > > There are MANY MANY methods of chelation that do not do it > this way--- they use the chelation agents once a day -- or > whatever-- like the one you cited. Many people have had > bad results this way. Some have had okay results. Some > have had disasterous results. There are also many variations > on the dosing method. For instance, DMPS injections (one > big dose, injected, maybe once a month) is more " extreme " > than ALA once a day, but both also are start/stop on EACH > dose. > > If you'd like to read a dozen or two commentaries on this, > each slightly restated, you can go here: > /files/ANDY_INDEX > and look for the section on " steady bloodstream level of > chelation agents and " bad " protocols " . Read it all, or until > you get bored LOL. > > If you would like to see more about Andy's timing methods, > see the section (in the same file) about dose timing, or > read: > /files/Andy_dose_sched > > If you would like some evidence of people with bad results, > you can try: > http://www.dmpsbackfire.com/default.shtml > /surveys?id=495865 > > There are people on this list (now and in the past) who have > used less-frequent timing and have had very bad results. There > are also those who have & do use it and think it is working > just fine. I have never tried less frequent timing, myself. > > best wishes, > Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 > Thanks for all the great information. Can someone clarify if it is ok > to ONLY use ALA without DMSA but just not everyday? Thanks It is NEVER OK to use ALA if you might have a mercury problem EXCEPT when you take it every 3-4 hours for days on end, then skip. It doesn't matter whether DMSA is along for the ride or not. Andy . . . .. . . . . .. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 I'm still a bit confused. Couldn't using ALA alone on a 3on/11off schedule still move mercury into the brain from the organs if you have not used DMSA first? Also can ALA be used with TTFD at the same time or should one be used first? Thanks > > Thanks for all the great information. Can someone clarify if it is > ok > > to ONLY use ALA without DMSA but just not everyday? Thanks > > It is NEVER OK to use ALA if you might have a mercury problem EXCEPT > when you take it every 3-4 hours for days on end, then skip. It > doesn't matter whether DMSA is along for the ride or not. > > Andy . . . .. . . . . .. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 > > > Thanks for all the great information. Can someone clarify if it > is > > ok > > > to ONLY use ALA without DMSA but just not everyday? Thanks > > > > It is NEVER OK to use ALA if you might have a mercury problem > EXCEPT > > when you take it every 3-4 hours for days on end, then skip. It > > doesn't matter whether DMSA is along for the ride or not. > > > > Andy . . . .. . . . . .. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Thanks Moria! I'm just trying to get it all straight so I can make the best choices for my son. He has made excellent progress on the diet, supplements, and antifungal therapy but now I think we are ready to get moving with chelation. > > > > Thanks for all the great information. Can someone clarify if it > > is > > > ok > > > > to ONLY use ALA without DMSA but just not everyday? Thanks > > > > > > It is NEVER OK to use ALA if you might have a mercury problem > > EXCEPT > > > when you take it every 3-4 hours for days on end, then skip. It > > > doesn't matter whether DMSA is along for the ride or not. > > > > > > Andy . . . .. . . . . .. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 > Thanks for all the great information. Can someone clarify if it is ok > to ONLY use ALA without DMSA but just not everyday? Thanks I use ALA only, I have never used DMSA. I do 3/4 or 3/11 protocol. It works very well for my family. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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