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The e-mail address bounced yesterday, but not today. Seems that yesterday was

the day he

got kicked off of grapevine2. So, those of you who have been trying to get off

the list,

just write to this guy.

Of course, he didn't address any of my concerns. Lets hope this practice will

stop. If

not, I certainly will take this a step further.

And to those of you who have gotten these unwanted subscriptions, please accept

my apology

for this happening.

Hugs,

Kay

Re: DeafDigest

> Hello,

>

> If there are any email addresses that you would want Barry to remove from

> his mailing list, he will honor your request. I believe that these email

> addresses are backed up for the recent mailing list distribution. Please

> accept our apologies for the troubles.

>

> Respectfully yours,

>

>

>

>

>

> > I have been told that you are the person I should write to about a problem

we are

having

> > concerning what I consider to be questionable practices on subscribing

members to deaf

> > digest. I have written to Barry twice about this earlier in the year, to

which he did

not

> > respond.

> >

> > First, let me start of by saying that I have nothing against DeafDigest

itself. I know

> > that hard work is put into its publication, and there are many folks who are

happy to

> > receive this publication.

> >

> > I run a discussion list that is open to parents of deaf and hard of hearing

children.

This

> > is not a public list because each member has to go through an application

process and

have

> > their membership approved. Some time ago, many of our members approached me

with

concerns

> > that either right after they joined the list, they began receiving the deaf

digest.

One

> > even said she thought it was a " bonus " for joining the discussion group. For

some of

these

> > folks, the only thing deaf related they receive at that address is our

groups mail, so

> > this can be the only source for the e-mail addresses. They have never

subscribed to

> > DeafDigest nor do they want to. Recently members of our group approached me

again

saying

> > charging that e-mail address harvesting is occurring from our group for

DeafDigest.

> >

> > If you think someone else may be sending addresses to DeafDigest and

subscribing them,

the

> > solution is simple - send a letter of confirmation to the e-mail address

asking them

to

> > respond if they did indeed want a subscription.

> >

> > I've asked the group to contact me privately and let me know if they're

receiving

> > DeafDigest without their consent. Keeping in mind that this is the summer

and many

parents

> > are busy with children at home, or on vacation, I've already had 20 people

respond

saying

> > that this is so - and the list of names keeps on growing.

> >

> > I am VERY upset about this. Without being able to ensure that our members

messages

will

> > remain confidential, our members will not open up and talk about the

emotional aspects

of

> > raising a child who is deaf or hard of hearing. We feel that it's essential

for them

to be

> > able to do this if they're to be able to help their child reach their

potential. On at

> > least one occasion, we've caught Barry taking a message from our list and

paraphrasing

it

> > on DeafDigest, so my claims and suspicions are not unreasonable (which I

also wrote to

> > Barry about but received no reply).

> >

> > Because DeafDigest contains so much commercial content, and folks are

receiving it

without

> > their consent, it is a matter that can be reported to the FTC (spam). If I

have reason

to

> > suspect that my concerns have not been addressed, and the practice of the

harvesting

of

> > our addresses for DeafDigest receipt does not stop, I will take the next

step and

advise

> > the members of our group to forward any copies they may receive to the FTC.

> >

> > Kay

> > kay@...

> > Listen Up Web

> > http://www.listen-up.org/

> >

>

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