Re: Anger Management

[Guest guest]

In between wanting to organize public hangings at AMA meetings I do

have the glimmer of sense to realize that the true power of evil is

its banality. Evil gets done by people going along to get along,

doing their job, behaving like they are told, and not thinking about

it until it is way too late.

All the pediatricians and family practitioners have a more credible

version of the defense Adolph Eichmann raised at his war crimes trial

- they had this great job doing wonderful things to help society and

didn't realize what they were actually involved in until they were so

far over their heads that any attempt to back out would have been met

with harsh punishment. So they kept doing their job as they were told

so as to stay out of trouble.

If you need to have anger, direct it at the system that created a lot

of people like that, and niches for them to fill. Don't direct it at

the poor fools who got a job as a round peg in a round hole.

Andy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

> ABSOLUTELY, Valeri, sorry will never be good enough, they KNEW what

they were

> doing but some acknowledgement would help I think. Need to focus

energy on

> getting them better rather than getting mad but I haven't perfected

that yet

> LO

[Guest guest]

Hi Valeri,

Reading your story... made me remember about mine. (and I bet everybody else

here experienced this at some point)

Believe me when I tell you: Things will change! Just give them a little more

time.

As Jenna will continue to respond to chelation, your family will become more and

more interested in what you're doing. You'll see...

When I started chelation and at the same time - tried to fill my family's head

with these new ideas about mercury toxicity and about vitamins and other stuff,

I got the same kind of " treatment " from them. I was first called " crazy " , then I

was told that actually Denis is progressing because " it's the age " and " it

simply was the right time for him " , then I was called " the pharmacist " ... They

simply wouldn't (or couldn't) believe the reality.

At first I got very upset with them and I tried to prove them how wrong they are

and how right I am It didn't work. And at some point (very fast actually) I

got tired of them and I just continued chelation with my son who was improving

every day.

For my family... I was always a weird person But this time... LOL

One day my mother came to visit me (she lives in a different city and we

couldn't see each other more than 2 times a year). When she heard Denis

speaking, she was impressed. When she saw Denis writing and reading (he was 3

yo), my mother made a big cross across her chest and she spitted towards him

saying that something is very wrong with him )LOL She got so scared! Like she

just saw a devil )LOL

From that point, they all started to believe

My mother and my father were calling me to ask what vitamin should they take for

I don't know what condition.... My sister started to give vitaminC, magnesium

and B-complex to her son every day... They were asking for my opinion about

everything, whatever problem they had. Suddenly, I became a very knowledgeable

person, trusty.

My mother wants to get rid of the two amalgams she has, my father started to

take vitamins daily (my mother too), my sister is doing the same thing with her

son and tells me about how sick her son used to be when he would get a cold and

how great he's doing now... She avoids flu shots now also, and she's treating

him for yeast overgrowth.

Sorry for making this so long Valeri, but I would say... Don't worry about this.

You will only waste your energy. They will change their mind soon. And, as I

know these things are happening, they will do it when you will stop caring about

them doing it:)) You know... there's that balance in nature that always works in

this weird way...

In the meantime... the only thing I can say is that " you're not alone " . You have

us here. I know this is not enough, and in your family you will still be alone,

but believe me, that will come too. Just give it a little more time. And keep

chelating

Valentina

> I guess what I'm wanting is not just recovery, but acknowledgement that

> Jenna was injured by the vaccines. It makes me feel like I'm going crazy

> when I explain to people what is happening and they in effect put their

> hands over their ears and say " Blah ,blah, blah I can't hear you! "

>

> Is anyone else feeling like this?

[Guest guest]

--- In , Valentina Scharpf <val@t...>

wrote:

> Hi Valeri,

> > Reading your story... made me remember about mine. (and I bet

everybody else > here experienced this at some point)

> Believe me when I tell you: Things will change! Just give them a

little more> time. > As Jenna will continue to respond to chelation,

your family will become more and > more interested in what you're

doing. You'll see...

Valentina is right. They will not be able to ignore the obvious

forever.

The best way to manage your anger is to channel it productively and

use as " power for your engine " , as " wind for your sails " , with all

its force focusing and directing every effort toward your child's

healing and spreading the word to prevent other babies from being

hurt, rather than wasting time and energy to preach to the " deaf " . It

worked for me, too. At first my husband did not want to believe that

Lily's illness is caused by vaccine, chastising me for " believing

every gossip on that stupid Internet " . Well...now he says, " god bless

internet - how else would you be able to find out the truth and

locate a wonderful doctor whose treatment is bringing our girl back

to her own healthy and happy self " . And he goes beyond himself

informing his own relatives and friends about harms of vaccines.

And speaking of anger...oh yes, i feel the same way as Valeri and

other parents of injured children. My baby's health was destroyed for

the rest of her life so a huge company could make a few easy and

irresponsible bucks??? it is beyond my understanding.

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Valeri Dugan " <valeri@d...>

wrote:

> As Jenna continues to respond to chelating, I find myself becoming

more and

> more angry about what was done to her. It feels almost like every

step she

> takes forward is a stab in my heart because she shouldn't have to

be doing

> this. She shouldn't have to have mercury removed from her brain

>

> Plus, I keep thinking about all the people who insisted (and

continue to

> insist) that mercury poisoning from childhood vaccines isn't

possible. My

> SIL questioned my decision to chelate today at our family Christmas

party

> and I felt like screaming in her face. I said " You don't know what

you're

> talking about. You haven't done any research, you don't have a

stake in

> this. Jenna is my child and I want what is best for her. " This

was met by

> much eye rolling from those present. I could feel my skin flushing

because

> I was getting so mad. These family members have seen Jenna for the

last 3

> weekends (because of different celebrations) and have all commented

on her

> improvements. But of course deny that the improvements are due to

> chelating.

>

> I guess what I'm wanting is not just recovery, but acknowledgement

that

> Jenna was injured by the vaccines. It makes me feel like I'm going

crazy

> when I explain to people what is happening and they in effect put

their

> hands over their ears and say " Blah ,blah, blah I can't hear you! "

>

> Is anyone else feeling like this?

>

> Valeri, mom to:

> Jenna (2/98 mercury poisoning from childhood vaccines, currently in

round 4)

> (2/99 NT)

> LeeLee (2/01 NT)

[Guest guest]

Valeri,

I believe we all feel anger at times and would like acknowledgement

but most of the time we don't get it. I have felt your same feelings

many times, but I try not to think this way. We are all changed so

much from this experience.

I have become an advocate for vaccine safety but as far as Jack's

problems, I don't spend alot of time thinking of why or what if, I

need all the energy I can get to take care of my three other

children, Jack and of course be a wife. I just look at Jack's autism

as something I was ment to go through in my life. What is important

about chelating is what it does for your child. In addition to

becoming toxic from vaccines, my son also had a brain tumor. His

last MRI showed the remaining tumor is almost gone, as is a cyst that

accompanied the tumor. This was my acknowlegement that chelation is

doing something.

As far as friends and family, they can not understand what you are

doing or what you are going through. I would not mention any of this

to your SIL again. Just always remember you are doing something

wonderful for your child. I hope things continue to go well.

Take care,

nne

--- In , " Valeri Dugan " <valeri@d...>

wrote:

> As Jenna continues to respond to chelating, I find myself becoming

more and

> more angry about what was done to her. It feels almost like every

step she

> takes forward is a stab in my heart because she shouldn't have to

be doing

> this. She shouldn't have to have mercury removed from her brain

>

> Plus, I keep thinking about all the people who insisted (and

continue to

> insist) that mercury poisoning from childhood vaccines isn't

possible. My

> SIL questioned my decision to chelate today at our family Christmas

party

> and I felt like screaming in her face. I said " You don't know what

you're

> talking about. You haven't done any research, you don't have a

stake in

> this. Jenna is my child and I want what is best for her. " This

was met by

> much eye rolling from those present. I could feel my skin flushing

because

> I was getting so mad. These family members have seen Jenna for the

last 3

> weekends (because of different celebrations) and have all commented

on her

> improvements. But of course deny that the improvements are due to

> chelating.

>

> I guess what I'm wanting is not just recovery, but acknowledgement

that

> Jenna was injured by the vaccines. It makes me feel like I'm going

crazy

> when I explain to people what is happening and they in effect put

their

> hands over their ears and say " Blah ,blah, blah I can't hear you! "

>

> Is anyone else feeling like this?

>

> Valeri, mom to:

> Jenna (2/98 mercury poisoning from childhood vaccines, currently in

round 4)

> (2/99 NT)

> LeeLee (2/01 NT)

[Guest guest]

Valeri,

I think all of us have been in the same position. My DH used to say

that there was nothing wrong with my son, but that I had " internet

disease " . Even after my son improved tremendously on the GFCF diet,

everyone in my family said he was " just maturing " as Valentina said.

My DH was very much against chelating until I dragged him to a

seminar by Dr. Holmes. Even after the hair analysis showed lots of

mercury & other metals he was sceptical, although did not say much

as did very well with just DMSA. He was very negative when

would have a backslide due to gut bugs and at one particularly bad

point said if did not improve by Thanksgiving, he would stop

chelation, diet and every supplement except a multivitamin. Well, I

am not proud that I did this but, I let go off the diet for

about four days during a break from school and he was so drunk

acting, my DH actually told me " you are right " and is now more

positive about the whole thing. My family I just ignore and say

nothing to, just people on the list or friends with autistic kids

also chelating who have an idea of what we are going through. I just

don't waste my time anymore. My son is more important than arguing

with people who have no idea of his real problems. I do feel the

need for anger management when watching particularly stupid news

reports though, LOL!

Suzanne

--- In , " Valeri Dugan " <valeri@d...>

wrote:

> As Jenna continues to respond to chelating, I find myself becoming

more and

> more angry about what was done to her. It feels almost like every

step she

> takes forward is a stab in my heart because she shouldn't have to

be doing

> this. She shouldn't have to have mercury removed from her brain

>

> Plus, I keep thinking about all the people who insisted (and

continue to

> insist) that mercury poisoning from childhood vaccines isn't

possible. My

> SIL questioned my decision to chelate today at our family

Christmas party

> and I felt like screaming in her face. I said " You don't know

what you're

> talking about. You haven't done any research, you don't have a

stake in

> this. Jenna is my child and I want what is best for her. " This

was met by

> much eye rolling from those present. I could feel my skin

flushing because

> I was getting so mad. These family members have seen Jenna for

the last 3

> weekends (because of different celebrations) and have all

commented on her

> improvements. But of course deny that the improvements are due to

> chelating.

>

> I guess what I'm wanting is not just recovery, but acknowledgement

that

> Jenna was injured by the vaccines. It makes me feel like I'm

going crazy

> when I explain to people what is happening and they in effect put

their

> hands over their ears and say " Blah ,blah, blah I can't hear you! "

>

> Is anyone else feeling like this?

>

> Valeri, mom to:

> Jenna (2/98 mercury poisoning from childhood vaccines, currently

in round 4)

> (2/99 NT)

> LeeLee (2/01 NT)

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Valeri Dugan " <valeri@d...>

wrote:

> As Jenna continues to respond to chelating, I find myself becoming

more and

> more angry about what was done to her.

Keep notes and records and video. One day you can shove it all back

into their faces, if you want to.

> Plus, I keep thinking about all the people who insisted (and

continue to

> insist) that mercury poisoning from childhood vaccines isn't

possible.

Let them insist. You can't really change that. But you CAN show them

your daughter when she is changed.

My

> SIL questioned my decision to chelate today

Say " thanks for caring about her, but this is what she needs, and we

are very happy " .

>>These family members have seen Jenna for the last 3

> weekends (because of different celebrations) and have all commented

on her

> improvements. But of course deny that the improvements are due to

> chelating.

So let them. Eventually, they will see it, or maybe they won't, but

who cares? Or you can just stop telling them about chelation, just

let them watch her and be excited she is improving.

>

> I guess what I'm wanting is not just recovery, but acknowledgement

that

> Jenna was injured by the vaccines.

Give it a year, then see what they say.

>> It makes me feel like I'm going crazy

> when I explain to people what is happening and they in effect put

their

> hands over their ears and say " Blah ,blah, blah I can't hear you! "

I do one of two things. Sometimes I don't explain or even say

anything. Other times I don't explain, I just state as a fact, " my

son was metal toxic, I am removing the metals, he is improving, I am

very thankful " . Occasionally I even include " metal toxic by

vaccines " . Most people don't argue with me because 1) I state it as a

fact and leave no room for opposition, 2) they see my son's

improvement even tho he has a genetic dx, and 3) I am an attorney and

can be intimidating LOL.

If people disagree with me and *dare* [LOL] to say so, then I say

" thanks for your opinion, I disagree with it " and leave it at that.

If they want me to explain, then I will.

But hey, congrats that she is improving so much that you have reason

for these angry thoughts! That is very good news!

Dana

http://www.danasview.net/

[Guest guest]

Is anyone else feeling like this?--You asked.

Yes!

I think anger is a big factor to deal with as we try to get our kids well.

If you are a female, and not a female MD, people really think you are dumb to

suggest such a thing. My husband is a professor of chemistry so people are a

bit gentler with him, but I am looked at like someone who had a lobotomy

several years ago.

I have problems dealing with the anger so I try to avoid situations that will

provoke me. The local people are meeting with the US Senators and

Congressmen, but I could not get myself all worked up again. I declined.

Along the same lines, my husband wrote all the Utah senators and congressman

(only 5--Utah is small) about the Homeland Security Bill add-on. He got so

mad that had trouble getting other things done for two days. I decided that

I would not be able to function if I sat down to write the letters. I would

just get too angry.

I have lots of anger and my eight year old daughter is very far out on the

ASD scale. She isn't even showing enough symptoms to be diagnosed with

ADD/ADHD. However, she had:

sensory integration problems

auditory processing disorder

eye tracking problems

mood swings

toe-walking (still has)

anxiety disorder

sciatica (YES--in a child!)

massive food allergies

gluten and casein intolerances

irritable bowel syndrome from Clostridia and Yeast

lead poisoning

social immaturity

I know many of you know how many therapies she has needed and how little our

insurance paid for it. The insurance company and most doctors think she is

just a normal kid with a pretty high IQ.

My point is that I have a really bright and darling little girl who is just a

bit off, yet we have been through thousands of hours and many thousands of

dollars to try to help her. How much more angry would I be if my child did

not talk and could not socialize due to so-called necessary vaccines? A LOT!!

I have no answer to the anger. To those of you who have not been knocked

over with this gorilla yet I just want you to know that the anger is

certainly justified. However, it can really take over your life if you let

it. From what I understand, many of the DAN! doctors have tried to channel

their anger by trying to help others. I am trying that approach but it is

something I need to work on each day.

Perhaps those who have gotten beyond anger can give the rest of us some

advice. I for one would really appreciate it.

Thanks everyone. You help me to maintain my sanity during this trying time

of anger plus chelation and sleep disturbance and more chelation and more

sleep disturbance.

in Salt Lake City

[Guest guest]

I feel the same way and I find myself avoiding situations that put me

in the position of getting angry too. Unfortunately I tend to isolate

myself because I can't stand the stupid comments some people make.

I am so angry...my son was not born this way and I see this as a

battle to be faced head on.

If people aren't part of the solution, then they are part of the

problem. My son has progressed a lot and I don't find the need to

justify my actions.

I think that anger helps us move in the right direction. Thanks for

all the posts about this. It assures me I'm not the only one. I get a

little battle weary sometimes but I want to look my son in the eye

and honestly tell him I am doing everything I can to help him become

well.

Kathy

> Is anyone else feeling like this?--You asked.

>

> Yes!

>

> I think anger is a big factor to deal with as we try to get our

kids well.

> If you are a female, and not a female MD, people really think you

are dumb to

> suggest such a thing. My husband is a professor of chemistry so

people are a

> bit gentler with him, but I am looked at like someone who had a

lobotomy

> several years ago.

>

> I have problems dealing with the anger so I try to avoid situations

that will

> provoke me. The local people are meeting with the US Senators and

> Congressmen, but I could not get myself all worked up again. I

declined.

> Along the same lines, my husband wrote all the Utah senators and

congressman

> (only 5--Utah is small) about the Homeland Security Bill add-on.

He got so

> mad that had trouble getting other things done for two days. I

decided that

> I would not be able to function if I sat down to write the letters.

I would

> just get too angry.

>

> I have lots of anger and my eight year old daughter is very far out

on the

> ASD scale. She isn't even showing enough symptoms to be diagnosed

with

> ADD/ADHD. However, she had:

> sensory integration problems

> auditory processing disorder

> eye tracking problems

> mood swings

> toe-walking (still has)

> anxiety disorder

> sciatica (YES--in a child!)

> massive food allergies

> gluten and casein intolerances

> irritable bowel syndrome from Clostridia and Yeast

> lead poisoning

> social immaturity

>

> I know many of you know how many therapies she has needed and how

little our

> insurance paid for it. The insurance company and most doctors

think she is

> just a normal kid with a pretty high IQ.

>

> My point is that I have a really bright and darling little girl who

is just a

> bit off, yet we have been through thousands of hours and many

thousands of

> dollars to try to help her. How much more angry would I be if my

child did

> not talk and could not socialize due to so-called necessary

vaccines? A LOT!!

>

> I have no answer to the anger. To those of you who have not been

knocked

> over with this gorilla yet I just want you to know that the anger

is

> certainly justified. However, it can really take over your life if

you let

> it. From what I understand, many of the DAN! doctors have tried to

channel

> their anger by trying to help others. I am trying that approach

but it is

> something I need to work on each day.

>

> Perhaps those who have gotten beyond anger can give the rest of us

some

> advice. I for one would really appreciate it.

>

> Thanks everyone. You help me to maintain my sanity during this

trying time

> of anger plus chelation and sleep disturbance and more chelation

and more

> sleep disturbance.

>

> in Salt Lake City

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I also feel much anger about this whole thing. Problem is, I even

feel it within my own home. My husband is very supportive of the

Homeland Security Bill, even went so far as to say that " these

populations " (my daughter on the spectrum, and myself with an

autoimmune disease controlled with immunosuppressants) is not big

enough to worry with! He tolerates all the therapies I do with my

daughter, but I feel he really sees me as totally nuts at times. Of

course, he is very willing to accept the credit for her progress

(since he is such a tolerant father/husband.)

Still, I carry on. My daughter is worth all the effort, and any

subsequent " fallout " that may occur within my circle of friends and

family.

Thank heavens for the internet. I shudder to think where we would

have been without it.

Cally

> > Is anyone else feeling like this?--You asked.

> >

> > Yes!

> >

> > I think anger is a big factor to deal with as we try to get our

> kids well.

> > If you are a female, and not a female MD, people really think you

> are dumb to

> > suggest such a thing. My husband is a professor of chemistry so

> people are a

> > bit gentler with him, but I am looked at like someone who had a

> lobotomy

> > several years ago.

> >

> > I have problems dealing with the anger so I try to avoid

situations

> that will

> > provoke me. The local people are meeting with the US Senators

and

> > Congressmen, but I could not get myself all worked up again. I

> declined.

> > Along the same lines, my husband wrote all the Utah senators and

> congressman

> > (only 5--Utah is small) about the Homeland Security Bill add-on.

> He got so

> > mad that had trouble getting other things done for two days. I

> decided that

> > I would not be able to function if I sat down to write the

letters.

> I would

> > just get too angry.

> >

> > I have lots of anger and my eight year old daughter is very far

out

> on the

> > ASD scale. She isn't even showing enough symptoms to be

diagnosed

> with

> > ADD/ADHD. However, she had:

> > sensory integration problems

> > auditory processing disorder

> > eye tracking problems

> > mood swings

> > toe-walking (still has)

> > anxiety disorder

> > sciatica (YES--in a child!)

> > massive food allergies

> > gluten and casein intolerances

> > irritable bowel syndrome from Clostridia and Yeast

> > lead poisoning

> > social immaturity

> >

> > I know many of you know how many therapies she has needed and how

> little our

> > insurance paid for it. The insurance company and most doctors

> think she is

> > just a normal kid with a pretty high IQ.

> >

> > My point is that I have a really bright and darling little girl

who

> is just a

> > bit off, yet we have been through thousands of hours and many

> thousands of

> > dollars to try to help her. How much more angry would I be if my

> child did

> > not talk and could not socialize due to so-called necessary

> vaccines? A LOT!!

> >

> > I have no answer to the anger. To those of you who have not been

> knocked

> > over with this gorilla yet I just want you to know that the anger

> is

> > certainly justified. However, it can really take over your life

if

> you let

> > it. From what I understand, many of the DAN! doctors have tried

to

> channel

> > their anger by trying to help others. I am trying that approach

> but it is

> > something I need to work on each day.

> >

> > Perhaps those who have gotten beyond anger can give the rest of

us

> some

> > advice. I for one would really appreciate it.

> >

> > Thanks everyone. You help me to maintain my sanity during this

> trying time

> > of anger plus chelation and sleep disturbance and more chelation

> and more

> > sleep disturbance.

> >

> > in Salt Lake City

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> I think anger is a big factor to deal with as we try to get our

>kids well.

Yes, I'm angry! It hurts to see my son struggle for things that come

so easily to other kids, to see him excluded and made fun of, to

watch his younger brother learn skills years earlier than he did, and

to think that THIS DID NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN TO HIM!!! As far as

dealing with the anger, I have good days and bad days. Some days I

can use my energy to try to educate the world, some days I can block

it out, and some days all I can do is cry.

It's a very strange way to live. I have given up trying to explain it

to most people because they think I'm crazy. I don't know anyone

locally who has pursued biomedical interventions as far as we have.

Our families are pleased at the boys' progress, but most of them

never took my older boy's dx seriously to begin with and think he has

just matured. They are sure that my younger boy would have been just

fine without that crazy diet and all those vitamins. My husband was

skeptical at first, and now accepts that the interventions made some

difference, but even he glazes over when I try to explain the details

of what I'm doing.

My older son looks NT in many situations and if we tell others about

his dx they are often surprised. But when he does have some sort of

problem related to his ASD issues, he doesn't look autistic to most

people, he looks like a badly behaved NT child. We don't quite fit

in the NT world, but we don't quite fit in the local developmental

disabilities community either. My son has made a lot of progress and

I dare to hope he will continue to improve, while some of these

families have children who are far more disabled and may never

function as well as he does now.

I, too, would like some acknowledgment of what we're going through

and what we've accomplished, but I don't think we're going to get it

from the world at large. These message groups are where I come for

support. I am so grateful for all who take the time to post on them,

because they are the reason my boys are doing as well as they are.

Kat

[Guest guest]

> It's a very strange way to live. I have given up trying to explain

it

> to most people because they think I'm crazy. I don't know anyone

> locally who has pursued biomedical interventions as far as we have.

I'm just thinking aloud, speculating:

I wonder if there ARE other families in your neck of the woods

that have pursued biomedical stuff farther?

I wonder if a couple of live people to talk to would help?

I did have a live person, also chelating (herself) to talk

to when I was starting chelation. We talked about chelation

non-stop for a couple of hours at a time. It felt good to me.

I guess it depends on where you live.

I wonder if it is worth the effort to look for others?

I don't know.

Where I live there is also a parents biomedical meeting

once a month. About 20 people there this month. This

did take some effort on some people's parts to create.

> Our families are pleased at the boys' progress, but most of them

> never took my older boy's dx seriously to begin with and think he

has

> just matured. They are sure that my younger boy would have been just

> fine without that crazy diet and all those vitamins. My husband was

> skeptical at first, and now accepts that the interventions made

some

> difference, but even he glazes over when I try to explain the

details

> of what I'm doing.

right. only someone really involved and very focused on this

would be interested in all the details of it. And those who

ARE interested are REALLY interested.

> I, too, would like some acknowledgment of what we're going through

> and what we've accomplished, but I don't think we're going to get it

> from the world at large. These message groups are where I come for

> support. I am so grateful for all who take the time to post on them,

> because they are the reason my boys are doing as well as they are.

yep. there is a whole world here--- a form that makes possible

all manner of things that seem rather improbable otherwise.

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

Please forgive me for saying it, but it sounds like some women on this

list needed to take a " love/codependency management class " prior to

marriage, and some husbands need to take an " acting like a decent

human being " class currently.

It is my general impression this problem has been endemic since at

least biblical times so I am not sure if a few classes would actually

correct it.

Andy . . . . .. . . . . .

> I also feel much anger about this whole thing. Problem is, I even

> feel it within my own home. My husband is very supportive of the

> Homeland Security Bill, even went so far as to say that " these

> populations " (my daughter on the spectrum, and myself with an

> autoimmune disease controlled with immunosuppressants) is not big

> enough to worry with! He tolerates all the therapies I do with my

> daughter, but I feel he really sees me as totally nuts at times. Of

> course, he is very willing to accept the credit for her progress

> (since he is such a tolerant father/husband.)

>

> Still, I carry on. My daughter is worth all the effort, and any

> subsequent " fallout " that may occur within my circle of friends and

> family.

>

> Thank heavens for the internet. I shudder to think where we would

> have been without it.

>

> Cally

>

>

>

>

> > > Is anyone else feeling like this?--You asked.

> > >

> > > Yes!

> > >

> > > I think anger is a big factor to deal with as we try to get our

> > kids well.

> > > If you are a female, and not a female MD, people really think

you

> > are dumb to

> > > suggest such a thing. My husband is a professor of chemistry so

> > people are a

> > > bit gentler with him, but I am looked at like someone who had a

> > lobotomy

> > > several years ago.

> > >

> > > I have problems dealing with the anger so I try to avoid

> situations

> > that will

> > > provoke me. The local people are meeting with the US Senators

> and

> > > Congressmen, but I could not get myself all worked up again. I

> > declined.

> > > Along the same lines, my husband wrote all the Utah senators and

> > congressman

> > > (only 5--Utah is small) about the Homeland Security Bill add-on.

> > He got so

> > > mad that had trouble getting other things done for two days. I

> > decided that

> > > I would not be able to function if I sat down to write the

> letters.

> > I would

> > > just get too angry.

> > >

> > > I have lots of anger and my eight year old daughter is very far

> out

> > on the

> > > ASD scale. She isn't even showing enough symptoms to be

> diagnosed

> > with

> > > ADD/ADHD. However, she had:

> > > sensory integration problems

> > > auditory processing disorder

> > > eye tracking problems

> > > mood swings

> > > toe-walking (still has)

> > > anxiety disorder

> > > sciatica (YES--in a child!)

> > > massive food allergies

> > > gluten and casein intolerances

> > > irritable bowel syndrome from Clostridia and Yeast

> > > lead poisoning

> > > social immaturity

> > >

> > > I know many of you know how many therapies she has needed and

how

> > little our

> > > insurance paid for it. The insurance company and most doctors

> > think she is

> > > just a normal kid with a pretty high IQ.

> > >

> > > My point is that I have a really bright and darling little girl

> who

> > is just a

> > > bit off, yet we have been through thousands of hours and many

> > thousands of

> > > dollars to try to help her. How much more angry would I be if

my

> > child did

> > > not talk and could not socialize due to so-called necessary

> > vaccines? A LOT!!

> > >

> > > I have no answer to the anger. To those of you who have not

been

> > knocked

> > > over with this gorilla yet I just want you to know that the

anger

> > is

> > > certainly justified. However, it can really take over your life

> if

> > you let

> > > it. From what I understand, many of the DAN! doctors have tried

> to

> > channel

> > > their anger by trying to help others. I am trying that approach

> > but it is

> > > something I need to work on each day.

> > >

> > > Perhaps those who have gotten beyond anger can give the rest of

> us

> > some

> > > advice. I for one would really appreciate it.

> > >

> > > Thanks everyone. You help me to maintain my sanity during this

> > trying time

> > > of anger plus chelation and sleep disturbance and more chelation

> > and more

> > > sleep disturbance.

> > >

> > > in Salt Lake City

> > >

> > >

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