Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Honestly if I had to say start somewhere I would say GFCF even if you don't see much difference. The reason would be that GFCF is likely not enough free but it is a good place to start to get use to reading labels and understanding diet. I personally would go to your regular Ped and get a basic CBC that told a huge peice of the story for my son. I can't stress Liver Support enough. I would say if you were going to do anything BioMedically go for the Liver first cause if you can't clear stuff there is no sense in killing it to leave a mess hanging around. I would say based on everything I have ever read these 2 are good jumping off places. Diet and Liver support! > > >My son is five and has just recently been diagnosed with an " autism spectrum > >disorder " . I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the information out there and > >I'm hoping you guys can give me a good place to start with him. The things > >he struggles most with are frustration, anxiety/depression and language > >delays. He requires a lot of movement when he's concentrating or trying to > >calm down..spinning, rocking, etc. He is completely non-verbal when he is > >in unfamiliar places and will not usually even acknowledge people he does > >not know when they try to speak to him. He does have the ability to speak > >but he must be very comfortable with the person and situation before he > >will. And when he does, he speaks very slowly and stutters some. At any > >rate, I would be interested in knowing where you guys suggest I start with > >him..what the most common supplements are for which problems and the dosing. > >Thanks so much! Looking forward to hearing from you! ~Katrina > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Katrina,My son had severe and dehabilitating depression for several years. Several things helped: HBOT, anti-bacterials (although he had a bad healing regression to it initially), removing dairy (esp. cheese)--in the end, we found that his depression was caused by inflammation (there are various sources for each person, such as the cheese) and Dr. Van Dyke in Madison, WI told me that inflammation is not an uncommon source of depression. Although my son's depression is minimal now, we still control it with 3 caps of Repair Gold enzymes daily on an empty stomach, along with his battery of supplements. There is a particular enzyme in RG that targets inflammation.SallyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 10:24:44 AMSubject: Re: Newly diagnosed and need a place to start Hi Katrina,I would recommend starting very simply and working your way up. Have you looked for a biomed friendly doctor or a DAN doctor?There are differing opinions on the GF/CF diet, but it is probably the most basic underlying piece of treatment for many. You might want to start there, as daunting as that may seem. If your child is a responder to the diet, then he probably needs to be off those foods. If he's not on the diet and needs to be, you may not see the maximum benefit from other treatments you try. You may try the diet and see no benefit, that happens occasionally. But it is good to try and know for sure. Both my recovered son and not-recovered son would not be as far along as they are if not for the diet. That's just one mom's experience.I remember really well being at the beginning where you are now...Having this crushing diagnosis and struggling to come to grips with it emotionally and mentally, while at the exact same time being called upon to function at a high level and spring into action for my child. I don't think I'm alone when I've referred to it as "deer in the headlights time." I've been at it for more than six years (my oldest it 10 and recovered) and trust me, while there are still some hard days, the way becomes clearer. I have not read very many books (not a lot of time). Mostly the internet has helpled me. But not too long ago I read Healing and Preventing Autism by MCCarthy and Jerry Kartzinel. Looking at it as a person who has learned a lot already, I thought, "geez, I wish I had found a book like this in the beginning." It is a simple overview that gives the big picture of biomed and breaks it down in grasp-able chunks: the diet, detox, pathogens, etc. (There will be other sources for when you want to delve more deeply into any particular aspect of treatment.) I would recommend taking a look at it. Also, this is a great, smart group so stay in touch. Good luck!!--Tammy Re: Newly diagnosed and need a place to start Firstly let me say just hang in there it's a long road. What helps my son with the sensory stuff( need for movement) is treating yeast and bacteria. U will get a lot of help from these folks but you'll have to disseminate where u need to start. Some good books r always a good way to get an understanding of what everyone is doing and then of course a game plan ... >My son is five and has just recently been diagnosed with an "autism spectrum >disorder". I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the information out there and >I'm hoping you guys can give me a good place to start with him. The things >he struggles most with are frustration, anxiety/depression and language >delays. He requires a lot of movement when he's concentrating or trying to >calm down..spinning, rocking, etc. He is completely non-verbal when he is >in unfamiliar places and will not usually even acknowledge people he does >not know when they try to speak to him. He does have the ability to speak >but he must be very comfortable with the person and situation before he >will. And when he does, he speaks very slowly and stutters some. At any >rate, I would be interested in knowing where you guys suggest I start with >him..what the most common supplements are for which problems and the dosing. >Thanks so much! Looking forward to hearing from you! ~Katrina > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Katrina,My son had severe and dehabilitating depression for several years. Several things helped: HBOT, anti-bacterials (although he had a bad healing regression to it initially), removing dairy (esp. cheese)--in the end, we found that his depression was caused by inflammation (there are various sources for each person, such as the cheese) and Dr. Van Dyke in Madison, WI told me that inflammation is not an uncommon source of depression. Although my son's depression is minimal now, we still control it with 3 caps of Repair Gold enzymes daily on an empty stomach, along with his battery of supplements. There is a particular enzyme in RG that targets inflammation.SallyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 10:24:44 AMSubject: Re: Newly diagnosed and need a place to start Hi Katrina,I would recommend starting very simply and working your way up. Have you looked for a biomed friendly doctor or a DAN doctor?There are differing opinions on the GF/CF diet, but it is probably the most basic underlying piece of treatment for many. You might want to start there, as daunting as that may seem. If your child is a responder to the diet, then he probably needs to be off those foods. If he's not on the diet and needs to be, you may not see the maximum benefit from other treatments you try. You may try the diet and see no benefit, that happens occasionally. But it is good to try and know for sure. Both my recovered son and not-recovered son would not be as far along as they are if not for the diet. That's just one mom's experience.I remember really well being at the beginning where you are now...Having this crushing diagnosis and struggling to come to grips with it emotionally and mentally, while at the exact same time being called upon to function at a high level and spring into action for my child. I don't think I'm alone when I've referred to it as "deer in the headlights time." I've been at it for more than six years (my oldest it 10 and recovered) and trust me, while there are still some hard days, the way becomes clearer. I have not read very many books (not a lot of time). Mostly the internet has helpled me. But not too long ago I read Healing and Preventing Autism by MCCarthy and Jerry Kartzinel. Looking at it as a person who has learned a lot already, I thought, "geez, I wish I had found a book like this in the beginning." It is a simple overview that gives the big picture of biomed and breaks it down in grasp-able chunks: the diet, detox, pathogens, etc. (There will be other sources for when you want to delve more deeply into any particular aspect of treatment.) I would recommend taking a look at it. Also, this is a great, smart group so stay in touch. Good luck!!--Tammy Re: Newly diagnosed and need a place to start Firstly let me say just hang in there it's a long road. What helps my son with the sensory stuff( need for movement) is treating yeast and bacteria. U will get a lot of help from these folks but you'll have to disseminate where u need to start. Some good books r always a good way to get an understanding of what everyone is doing and then of course a game plan ... >My son is five and has just recently been diagnosed with an "autism spectrum >disorder". I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the information out there and >I'm hoping you guys can give me a good place to start with him. The things >he struggles most with are frustration, anxiety/depression and language >delays. He requires a lot of movement when he's concentrating or trying to >calm down..spinning, rocking, etc. He is completely non-verbal when he is >in unfamiliar places and will not usually even acknowledge people he does >not know when they try to speak to him. He does have the ability to speak >but he must be very comfortable with the person and situation before he >will. And when he does, he speaks very slowly and stutters some. At any >rate, I would be interested in knowing where you guys suggest I start with >him..what the most common supplements are for which problems and the dosing. >Thanks so much! Looking forward to hearing from you! ~Katrina > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Katrina,My son had severe and dehabilitating depression for several years. Several things helped: HBOT, anti-bacterials (although he had a bad healing regression to it initially), removing dairy (esp. cheese)--in the end, we found that his depression was caused by inflammation (there are various sources for each person, such as the cheese) and Dr. Van Dyke in Madison, WI told me that inflammation is not an uncommon source of depression. Although my son's depression is minimal now, we still control it with 3 caps of Repair Gold enzymes daily on an empty stomach, along with his battery of supplements. There is a particular enzyme in RG that targets inflammation.SallyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 10:24:44 AMSubject: Re: Newly diagnosed and need a place to start Hi Katrina,I would recommend starting very simply and working your way up. Have you looked for a biomed friendly doctor or a DAN doctor?There are differing opinions on the GF/CF diet, but it is probably the most basic underlying piece of treatment for many. You might want to start there, as daunting as that may seem. If your child is a responder to the diet, then he probably needs to be off those foods. If he's not on the diet and needs to be, you may not see the maximum benefit from other treatments you try. You may try the diet and see no benefit, that happens occasionally. But it is good to try and know for sure. Both my recovered son and not-recovered son would not be as far along as they are if not for the diet. That's just one mom's experience.I remember really well being at the beginning where you are now...Having this crushing diagnosis and struggling to come to grips with it emotionally and mentally, while at the exact same time being called upon to function at a high level and spring into action for my child. I don't think I'm alone when I've referred to it as "deer in the headlights time." I've been at it for more than six years (my oldest it 10 and recovered) and trust me, while there are still some hard days, the way becomes clearer. I have not read very many books (not a lot of time). Mostly the internet has helpled me. But not too long ago I read Healing and Preventing Autism by MCCarthy and Jerry Kartzinel. Looking at it as a person who has learned a lot already, I thought, "geez, I wish I had found a book like this in the beginning." It is a simple overview that gives the big picture of biomed and breaks it down in grasp-able chunks: the diet, detox, pathogens, etc. (There will be other sources for when you want to delve more deeply into any particular aspect of treatment.) I would recommend taking a look at it. Also, this is a great, smart group so stay in touch. Good luck!!--Tammy Re: Newly diagnosed and need a place to start Firstly let me say just hang in there it's a long road. What helps my son with the sensory stuff( need for movement) is treating yeast and bacteria. U will get a lot of help from these folks but you'll have to disseminate where u need to start. Some good books r always a good way to get an understanding of what everyone is doing and then of course a game plan ... >My son is five and has just recently been diagnosed with an "autism spectrum >disorder". I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the information out there and >I'm hoping you guys can give me a good place to start with him. The things >he struggles most with are frustration, anxiety/depression and language >delays. He requires a lot of movement when he's concentrating or trying to >calm down..spinning, rocking, etc. He is completely non-verbal when he is >in unfamiliar places and will not usually even acknowledge people he does >not know when they try to speak to him. He does have the ability to speak >but he must be very comfortable with the person and situation before he >will. And when he does, he speaks very slowly and stutters some. At any >rate, I would be interested in knowing where you guys suggest I start with >him..what the most common supplements are for which problems and the dosing. >Thanks so much! Looking forward to hearing from you! ~Katrina > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Sounds like your child has a lot of anxiety. You might ask your doctors about a course of Zithromycin - helped with anxiety here. --penumbra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Sounds like your child has a lot of anxiety. You might ask your doctors about a course of Zithromycin - helped with anxiety here. --penumbra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Sounds like your child has a lot of anxiety. You might ask your doctors about a course of Zithromycin - helped with anxiety here. --penumbra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I had very bad anxiety and depression ever since i can remember. took antidepressants for around 9years. After being gluten free casein free soy free, and i will not put anything in my mouth that has an ingredient i can't pronounce. after a few months of that i was able to cut down on antidep. cymbalta from 60-30mgs. then three months into antifungal antiviral i felt the meds where doing more harm than good so got of them completely. I dont remember ever being this happy and mentally stable. Oh yea and been on mb12 nasal spray for 2months it just keeps getting better and better. hope that helps ps. when withdraw from the food come up dont give up remember there is a light at the end of the tunnel. and don't forget about activated charcoal when killing fungus. > > My son is five and has just recently been diagnosed with an " autism spectrum > disorder " . I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the information out there and > I'm hoping you guys can give me a good place to start with him. The things > he struggles most with are frustration, anxiety/depression and language > delays. He requires a lot of movement when he's concentrating or trying to > calm down..spinning, rocking, etc. He is completely non-verbal when he is > in unfamiliar places and will not usually even acknowledge people he does > not know when they try to speak to him. He does have the ability to speak > but he must be very comfortable with the person and situation before he > will. And when he does, he speaks very slowly and stutters some. At any > rate, I would be interested in knowing where you guys suggest I start with > him..what the most common supplements are for which problems and the dosing. > Thanks so much! Looking forward to hearing from you! ~Katrina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I had very bad anxiety and depression ever since i can remember. took antidepressants for around 9years. After being gluten free casein free soy free, and i will not put anything in my mouth that has an ingredient i can't pronounce. after a few months of that i was able to cut down on antidep. cymbalta from 60-30mgs. then three months into antifungal antiviral i felt the meds where doing more harm than good so got of them completely. I dont remember ever being this happy and mentally stable. Oh yea and been on mb12 nasal spray for 2months it just keeps getting better and better. hope that helps ps. when withdraw from the food come up dont give up remember there is a light at the end of the tunnel. and don't forget about activated charcoal when killing fungus. > > My son is five and has just recently been diagnosed with an " autism spectrum > disorder " . I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the information out there and > I'm hoping you guys can give me a good place to start with him. The things > he struggles most with are frustration, anxiety/depression and language > delays. He requires a lot of movement when he's concentrating or trying to > calm down..spinning, rocking, etc. He is completely non-verbal when he is > in unfamiliar places and will not usually even acknowledge people he does > not know when they try to speak to him. He does have the ability to speak > but he must be very comfortable with the person and situation before he > will. And when he does, he speaks very slowly and stutters some. At any > rate, I would be interested in knowing where you guys suggest I start with > him..what the most common supplements are for which problems and the dosing. > Thanks so much! Looking forward to hearing from you! ~Katrina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I had very bad anxiety and depression ever since i can remember. took antidepressants for around 9years. After being gluten free casein free soy free, and i will not put anything in my mouth that has an ingredient i can't pronounce. after a few months of that i was able to cut down on antidep. cymbalta from 60-30mgs. then three months into antifungal antiviral i felt the meds where doing more harm than good so got of them completely. I dont remember ever being this happy and mentally stable. Oh yea and been on mb12 nasal spray for 2months it just keeps getting better and better. hope that helps ps. when withdraw from the food come up dont give up remember there is a light at the end of the tunnel. and don't forget about activated charcoal when killing fungus. > > My son is five and has just recently been diagnosed with an " autism spectrum > disorder " . I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the information out there and > I'm hoping you guys can give me a good place to start with him. The things > he struggles most with are frustration, anxiety/depression and language > delays. He requires a lot of movement when he's concentrating or trying to > calm down..spinning, rocking, etc. He is completely non-verbal when he is > in unfamiliar places and will not usually even acknowledge people he does > not know when they try to speak to him. He does have the ability to speak > but he must be very comfortable with the person and situation before he > will. And when he does, he speaks very slowly and stutters some. At any > rate, I would be interested in knowing where you guys suggest I start with > him..what the most common supplements are for which problems and the dosing. > Thanks so much! Looking forward to hearing from you! ~Katrina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Robin, My son is 8yo.We have been doing biomed 6 years.We have done almost everything we can and he is better but has a ways to go. If I could go back in time 6 years I would have started with HANDLE for his sensory issues.RDI (Relationship Development Intervention) for remidiating the core deficits of autism and of course biomed including chelation to clear metals and have his body work normally.I would skip alot of the 'flavor of the week " type therapies.I would have also recognized early on that even speech therapy for my son was not what he needed or IBI(it made him very prompt dependent but were getting over that now and he is learning on his own.) I hope this helps.Feel free to ask any questions offline...jake's mom > >> > > >> > My son is five and has just recently been diagnosed with an " autism > >> spectrum > >> > disorder " . I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the information out there > >> and > >> > I'm hoping you guys can give me a good place to start with him. The > >> things > >> > he struggles most with are frustration, anxiety/depression and language > >> > delays. He requires a lot of movement when he's concentrating or trying > >> to > >> > calm down..spinning, rocking, etc. He is completely non-verbal when he > >> is > >> > in unfamiliar places and will not usually even acknowledge people he > >> does > >> > not know when they try to speak to him. He does have the ability to > >> speak > >> > but he must be very comfortable with the person and situation before he > >> > will. And when he does, he speaks very slowly and stutters some. At any > >> > rate, I would be interested in knowing where you guys suggest I start > >> with > >> > him..what the most common supplements are for which problems and the > >> dosing. > >> > Thanks so much! Looking forward to hearing from you! ~Katrina > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Robin Broyles > rabroyles@... > H - > C - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Robin, My son is 8yo.We have been doing biomed 6 years.We have done almost everything we can and he is better but has a ways to go. If I could go back in time 6 years I would have started with HANDLE for his sensory issues.RDI (Relationship Development Intervention) for remidiating the core deficits of autism and of course biomed including chelation to clear metals and have his body work normally.I would skip alot of the 'flavor of the week " type therapies.I would have also recognized early on that even speech therapy for my son was not what he needed or IBI(it made him very prompt dependent but were getting over that now and he is learning on his own.) I hope this helps.Feel free to ask any questions offline...jake's mom > >> > > >> > My son is five and has just recently been diagnosed with an " autism > >> spectrum > >> > disorder " . I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the information out there > >> and > >> > I'm hoping you guys can give me a good place to start with him. The > >> things > >> > he struggles most with are frustration, anxiety/depression and language > >> > delays. He requires a lot of movement when he's concentrating or trying > >> to > >> > calm down..spinning, rocking, etc. He is completely non-verbal when he > >> is > >> > in unfamiliar places and will not usually even acknowledge people he > >> does > >> > not know when they try to speak to him. He does have the ability to > >> speak > >> > but he must be very comfortable with the person and situation before he > >> > will. And when he does, he speaks very slowly and stutters some. At any > >> > rate, I would be interested in knowing where you guys suggest I start > >> with > >> > him..what the most common supplements are for which problems and the > >> dosing. > >> > Thanks so much! Looking forward to hearing from you! ~Katrina > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Robin Broyles > rabroyles@... > H - > C - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Robin, My son is 8yo.We have been doing biomed 6 years.We have done almost everything we can and he is better but has a ways to go. If I could go back in time 6 years I would have started with HANDLE for his sensory issues.RDI (Relationship Development Intervention) for remidiating the core deficits of autism and of course biomed including chelation to clear metals and have his body work normally.I would skip alot of the 'flavor of the week " type therapies.I would have also recognized early on that even speech therapy for my son was not what he needed or IBI(it made him very prompt dependent but were getting over that now and he is learning on his own.) I hope this helps.Feel free to ask any questions offline...jake's mom > >> > > >> > My son is five and has just recently been diagnosed with an " autism > >> spectrum > >> > disorder " . I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the information out there > >> and > >> > I'm hoping you guys can give me a good place to start with him. The > >> things > >> > he struggles most with are frustration, anxiety/depression and language > >> > delays. He requires a lot of movement when he's concentrating or trying > >> to > >> > calm down..spinning, rocking, etc. He is completely non-verbal when he > >> is > >> > in unfamiliar places and will not usually even acknowledge people he > >> does > >> > not know when they try to speak to him. He does have the ability to > >> speak > >> > but he must be very comfortable with the person and situation before he > >> > will. And when he does, he speaks very slowly and stutters some. At any > >> > rate, I would be interested in knowing where you guys suggest I start > >> with > >> > him..what the most common supplements are for which problems and the > >> dosing. > >> > Thanks so much! Looking forward to hearing from you! ~Katrina > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Robin Broyles > rabroyles@... > H - > C - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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