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Here's another link (actually two, depending on which format you prefer)

to guidelines recently put out by the Indiana Division of Special

Education titled " Guidelines for Determining the Need for Extended

School Year Services, May 2001 "

http://web.indstate.edu/soe/iseas/esy.pdf

http://web.indstate.edu/soe/iseas/esy.html

At our year end IEP meeting the CCC agreed that needed ESY

services for speech and audiology, however they were initially denied

based on the LEA sped director's policy that " no child who is making

progress receives extended school year service. " Our case conference

coordinator told us about this " policy " (yes we have this on tape). I

found these guidelines online the very day that we had a meeting with

this director regarding this denial of ESY services. The link wasn't

there just a few days prior, talk about prophetic. I think he was a bit

surprised when I pulled out my copy and asked him if he'd seen it yet

(he had received it a few days before, but I had probably looked at it

more than he had.) It addressed the very reasons ESY were recommended

(emerging skills, regression of skills, etc.) After a bit of

run-around, we were successful in getting the ESY services

needs. Unfortunately, despite our best efforts prior to and at the

beginning of the meeting with the director, we could not get a copy of

his " policy " in writing. In fact, as expected, he never openly admitted

to having such a policy; said something to the effect that " they

couldn't make such policies. " Of course that doesn't prevent them from

saying they do and if they get away with it all the better for them, if

not the students. Makes me and my husband mad, but I'm not sure there's

anything we can do since we don't have physical proof of this " policy "

and we were successful in getting ESY services. Don't know if an

investigation can be requested, or who to make the request to. Oh well,

we have a long ways to go in working with these people, I guess we

better not step on too many toes along the way.

FYI. For those on the list residing in Indiana, the Division of Special

Education's website is:

http://web.indstate.edu/soe/iseas/dse.html

There are links to lots of publications and other information on sped in

the state, Article 7, statistics, complaints filed, etc. I've found it

helpful.

- mommy to , pre-pro, born 8/27/97

" Keep your face to the sunshine and you cannot see the shadow. "

--Helen Keller

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> My question is, under what grounds do they have to offer ESY, or should I

say, under what grounds should I request it. I had addressed it during her

very first IEP and it was basically ignored.

Beth,

The links that Kay and co. have provided are all excellent and I hope you

are able to use the info to get ESY services for Callie. Just wanted to add

that my son's IEP was today ( is 5.0 and in a private school for

hearing impaired children at district expense) and the district did approve

ESY for him under the guidelines in Kay's links. The language used was " he

is in a critical learning period for speech, language and auditory skills. "

For the special considerations it was added that was recently

diagnosed (only last summer) and also that he has been " diagnosed as having

a possible progressive loss " . ( has EVAS).

It was also mentioned in ' summary that he learns new skills easily but

requires " periodic practice " to retain them...and then the skills he's

recently acquired were written individually into the ESY goals as skills to

be maintained so that he will be ready to move on with his class in the

fall.

CB

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At 03:50 PM 6/12/01 -0700, you wrote:

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> > My question is, under what grounds do they have to offer ESY, or should I

>say, under what grounds should I request it. I had addressed it during her

>very first IEP and it was basically ignored.

has summer speech and language services via ESY. She just

received an implant and her speech had already regressed, due to both the

progressive hearing loss, and the need to re-learn how to hear with the

implant. She's learning to adapt to the differences in sound, but I was

able to make the case that the ESY services would prevent " substantial

regression " , which she had already experienced.

Chris

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At 03:50 PM 6/12/01 -0700, you wrote:

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> > My question is, under what grounds do they have to offer ESY, or should I

>say, under what grounds should I request it. I had addressed it during her

>very first IEP and it was basically ignored.

has summer speech and language services via ESY. She just

received an implant and her speech had already regressed, due to both the

progressive hearing loss, and the need to re-learn how to hear with the

implant. She's learning to adapt to the differences in sound, but I was

able to make the case that the ESY services would prevent " substantial

regression " , which she had already experienced.

Chris

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In a message dated 6/12/01 11:17:00 AM Central Daylight Time,

mbnandrew@... writes:

> My question is, under what grounds do they have to offer ESY, or should I

> say, under what grounds should I request it. I had addressed it during her

> very first IEP and it was basically ignored.

I think it depends on what they actually have to offer in the school

district. I have just moved. We lived in a small town that had no oral

program for deaf students. My daughter was in a preschool speech/language

impaired class where she was the only hearing impaired student and I was able

to have them all use the oral method for her. They had ESY for that class so

my daughter was able to participate in that. We now live in Austin, TX - a

huge difference! She will attend a public school that has an oral deaf

education program. The program is wonderful! However, they do not offer ESY

for this program. So we have to do without. It may simply be that it is not

offered in that area in your school district.

Suzette

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In a message dated 6/12/01 11:17:00 AM Central Daylight Time,

mbnandrew@... writes:

> My question is, under what grounds do they have to offer ESY, or should I

> say, under what grounds should I request it. I had addressed it during her

> very first IEP and it was basically ignored.

I think it depends on what they actually have to offer in the school

district. I have just moved. We lived in a small town that had no oral

program for deaf students. My daughter was in a preschool speech/language

impaired class where she was the only hearing impaired student and I was able

to have them all use the oral method for her. They had ESY for that class so

my daughter was able to participate in that. We now live in Austin, TX - a

huge difference! She will attend a public school that has an oral deaf

education program. The program is wonderful! However, they do not offer ESY

for this program. So we have to do without. It may simply be that it is not

offered in that area in your school district.

Suzette

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I asked for ESY for speech because last summer my daughter's speech

digressed and it is still not back to where it was. I had let them know

ahead of time that I wanted this, so they looked into it before the meeting.

The answer was that the Township, not the school district, was the one

providing services during the summer and that they did not provide services

for children who ONLY needed speech. I made my case, and they said they

would ask again. I have not heard anything. It would be for five weeks

during the summer, I'm not sure where, and she'd have to miss part of camp

going to it. I once read on Listen-Up about getting services outside of

school hours so the educational day is not interupted. I don't believe that

would go for camp!

Randie Chubin

Margie (7) moderate/moderate to severe, EVAS

Eli (4) and Mollie (1), hearing

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I asked for ESY for speech because last summer my daughter's speech

digressed and it is still not back to where it was. I had let them know

ahead of time that I wanted this, so they looked into it before the meeting.

The answer was that the Township, not the school district, was the one

providing services during the summer and that they did not provide services

for children who ONLY needed speech. I made my case, and they said they

would ask again. I have not heard anything. It would be for five weeks

during the summer, I'm not sure where, and she'd have to miss part of camp

going to it. I once read on Listen-Up about getting services outside of

school hours so the educational day is not interupted. I don't believe that

would go for camp!

Randie Chubin

Margie (7) moderate/moderate to severe, EVAS

Eli (4) and Mollie (1), hearing

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