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In a message dated 9/4/2000 10:45:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rmax@... writes:

<< >, trust your instincts, 9 out of 10 times a mother is right

about her feeling on this issue.

Watch Adam close and I would call your local police and ask them if he has

a record or if there are any known child molesters in your area, pronto!!

~>Becky M.

>>

The guy works for NASA . I don't think he would have a record and get a

security clearance. BuT I am going to look at the sex offenders CD this week.

I told all of the kids they can't go out in front at all! My husband wants to

put a rod iron fence up in front.. I want to dig a mote!

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From: jacee17@... <jacee17@...>

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Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:12 AM

Subject: [] neighbors

>

>I think my neighbor is a pervert. He is way to friendly with kids. Touchy

>feely too. He saw afos and came right over to talk to Adam about

them..

> I know something is not right with this guy. I am also mad that he saw a

>weakness in Adam. Like maybe I'll molest this kid he can't get away that

>fast..

>jenny

>

>>>>>>>, trust your instincts, 9 out of 10 times a mother is right

about her feeling on this issue.

Watch Adam close and I would call your local police and ask them if he has

a record or if there are any known child molesters in your area, pronto!!

~>Becky M.

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I guess I don't understand some areas of the US. I would think a person that

showed an interest and kindness to a handicapped child could well be a kind

considerate person that cares. This is different if the person attempts to

touch the child in an inappropriate way, but what's wrong with a touch of

kindness? I suggest you get to know your neighbor before making a judgment.

There may or may not be a problem, but to judge and condemn simply because he

showed a kindness seems hasty. Invite him over and talk with him. There are

countless other possibilities. The man may even have lost a child that had a

neuromuscular disease, or may have on in his family. I have gone up to many

children and adults with AFO's and started a conversation. I will never forget

one child that was crying and trying to take his obviously new AFO off. I

pulled up the leg to my trousers and showed him I had one also. I told him how

much better I could walk with it. The tears dried up--the child saw that he was

not the only one. I saw the same child a couple of years later. The parents

thanked me for taking time and said that after that one thing the child accepted

them.

Perhaps it is because I am from the south where people are friendly and tend to

trust others, but I choose to be aware of the bad in the world while thinking

that the majority of the public are decent people. There may have been much

more information than was stated, but from what was said it sounded more like

normal behavior. If the touch was in an inappropriate manner, the situation may

be different. Sorry, but I would probably have done just exactly as you

described--including giving him a friendly hug or a handshake or a pat on the

back or head--and I am NOT a pervert or child molester, but I do like children

and my heart goes out to one with physical limitations.

Just my two cents worth.

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From: jacee17@... <jacee17@...>

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Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:12 AM

Subject: [] neighbors

>

>I think my neighbor is a pervert. He is way to friendly with kids. Touchy

>feely too. He saw afos and came right over to talk to Adam about

them..

> I know something is not right with this guy. I am also mad that he saw a

>weakness in Adam. Like maybe I'll molest this kid he can't get away that

>fast..

>jenny

>

>>>>>>>, trust your instincts, 9 out of 10 times a mother is right

about her feeling on this issue.

Watch Adam close and I would call your local police and ask them if he has

a record or if there are any known child molesters in your area, pronto!!

~>Becky M.

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Becky is right about gut instincts. God gave us mothers gut feelings for a

reason! Trust your gut on how to handle this situation. He may be a

wonderful man but if you have a funny feeling something is off about him, be

very wary. This is a great time to calmly sit down with all your kids and

review how to act/react around stangers and even people you know who get too

close and break that comfort zone. You can also review basic self defense

techniques with them.

Ruth

>From: " Maxwell " <rmax@...>

> >>>>>>>, trust your instincts, 9 out of 10 times a mother is right

>about her feeling on this issue.

> Watch Adam close and I would call your local police and ask them if he

>has

>a record or if there are any known child molesters in your area, pronto!!

>~>Becky M.

>

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From: Lamar son <lls@...>

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Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 10:36 AM

Subject: Re: [] neighbors

>

>I guess I don't understand some areas of the US. I would think a person

that showed an interest and kindness to a handicapped child could well be a

kind considerate person that cares. This is different if the person

attempts to touch the child in an inappropriate way, but what's wrong with a

touch of kindness? I suggest you get to know your neighbor before making a

judgment. There may or may not be a problem, but to judge and condemn

simply because he showed a kindness seems hasty. Invite him over and talk

with him. There are countless other possibilities. The man may even have

lost a child that had a neuromuscular disease, or may have on in his family.

I have gone up to many children and adults with AFO's and started a

conversation. I will never forget one child that was crying and trying to

take his obviously new AFO off. I pulled up the leg to my trousers and

showed him I had one also. I told him how much better I could walk with it.

The tears dried up--the child saw that he was not the only one. I saw the

same child a couple of years later. The parents thanked me for taking time

and said that after that one thing the child accepted them.

>

>Perhaps it is because I am from the south where people are friendly and

tend to trust others, but I choose to be aware of the bad in the world while

thinking that the majority of the public are decent people. There may have

been much more information than was stated, but from what was said it

sounded more like normal behavior. If the touch was in an inappropriate

manner, the situation may be different. Sorry, but I would probably have

done just exactly as you described--including giving him a friendly hug or a

handshake or a pat on the back or head--and I am NOT a pervert or child

molester, but I do like children and my heart goes out to one with physical

limitations.

>

>Just my two cents worth.

>>>>Lamar, better to be safe than sorry!

I'l bet people have come up to Adam many times in the past and gave him a

hug or talked to him, and never gave it a thought. But this time she

did! Thats an alarm going off, a Mothers alarm! I'd rather check this guy

out first, then if he is ok, get to know him if I wish. Better safe then

sorry. ~>Becky M.

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In a message dated 9/5/00 11:41:15 AM, rmax@... writes:

<< I would think a person that showed an interest and kindness to a

handicapped child could well be a kind considerate person that cares. This

is different if the person

attempts to touch the child in an inappropriate way, but what's wrong with a

touch of kindness? >>

This conversation reminds me of my dad. He was fond of children of all sorts,

so after he retired he would invite the little neighborhood children to play

in his yard while he was gardening, and to play in the house if the weather

wasn't nice for playing outside. He provided all sorts of old toys, or played

games with them, and the children loved his quiet attention. He was

easy-going and not bossy. He was particularly kind to the weaker or shy

children. I suppose these days he would be looked upon with suspicion, but

that would be too bad. The children gained a lot from his gentle acceptance

and guidance.

, as others have suggested, you could get better acquainted with your

neighbor and learn more about him. He could turn out to be the sort of man

who becomes a mentor for your children.

I don't think you mentioned his age range. Middle? Old? Young?

Kat

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In a message dated 9/5/2000 9:05:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lls@...

writes:

<< I suggest you get to know your neighbor before making a judgment. There

may or may not be a problem, but to judge and condemn simply because he

showed a kindness seems hasty. Invite him over and talk with him. There are

countless other possibilities. >>

His behavior is way scary not nice.. Something is just not right about this

guy.

jenny

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In a message dated 9/5/2000 11:41:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

rmax@... writes:

<< I'l bet people have come up to Adam many times in the past and gave him a

hug or talked to him, and never gave it a thought. But this time she

did! Thats an alarm going off, a Mothers alarm! I'd rather check this guy

out first, then if he is ok, get to know him if I wish. Better safe then

sorry. ~>Becky M.

>>

Yep Becky you got it 100 % right.

jenny

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In a message dated 9/5/2000 5:52:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

KathleenLS@... writes:

<< , as others have suggested, you could get better acquainted with your

neighbor and learn more about him. He could turn out to be the sort of man

who becomes a mentor for your children.

I don't think you mentioned his age range. Middle? Old? Young?

Kat

>>

NO WAY! This guy scares me. Spencer is scared of him too. He is about 45 ish.

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In a message dated 9/5/2000 8:05:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rmax@...

writes:

<< And that was the month they found out he had molested

several neighborhodd children including my cousins 9 year old boy. But my

cousin was " nuts " . " He was a nice man " , " So good with the children " ,

" Just a man who likes kids " , " Doesn't he do well with children " . You

never know, if my cousin would of stuck by her feelings this would not of

happened at least not to her son. Thats why I say a Mothers intution is

usually right. And better safe than sorry. >Becky M.

>>

Yep this guy is trying to befriend us and my kids. Not normal for an adult

man to follow kids around asking them questions. He asked if she had

any little girl friends around.

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From: KathleenLS@... <KathleenLS@...>

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Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 7:36 PM

>

>, as others have suggested, you could get better acquainted with your

>neighbor and learn more about him. He could turn out to be the sort of man

>who becomes a mentor for your children.

>

>I don't think you mentioned his age range. Middle? Old? Young?

>

>Kat

>

Kat my dad loved kids too, but that was a different time. Now things seem to

have changed around the world. Guess I'm paranoid as my cousin had a new

neighbor, sweet guy, loved the kids. Had them over for board games, help

him with yard work, he would pay them. Take them to fun places. My

cousins never felt completely comfortable about it. Every one told her she

was being overly cautious, silly. Her husband would get mad at her for her

" Feelings somethings not right about the neighbor " . 18 months this nice

man lived there. And that was the month they found out he had molested

several neighborhodd children including my cousins 9 year old boy. But my

cousin was " nuts " . " He was a nice man " , " So good with the children " ,

" Just a man who likes kids " , " Doesn't he do well with children " . You

never know, if my cousin would of stuck by her feelings this would not of

happened at least not to her son. Thats why I say a Mothers intution is

usually right. And better safe than sorry. >Becky M.

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Hi, all. For me, this issue really strikes a nerve and is very hard

to read about and to write about. Many years ago we had a sexual

exhibitionist in our family - my step-grandad. I was, possibly am,

the only person in the family who knows. To my knowledge, he did not

overtly molest anyone (by touching/feeling, etc). For sure he

molested my brain, though, along with several friends. And the truth

is we don't know what else might have happened. Those were the days

when such things were not talked about - AT ALL!

I would say go with the intuition, at any rate. He might be just

weird, but your kids don't need to be associated with weirdness

either, because they can get really scared. And fright is also very

traumatizing and damaging!

Best wishes to you and your children. True, better safe than sorry!

Warm regards, Carolyn

> In a message dated 9/5/2000 8:05:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rmax@m...

> writes:

>

> << And that was the month they found out he had molested

> several neighborhodd children including my cousins 9 year old

boy. But my

> cousin was " nuts " . " He was a nice man " , " So good with the

children " ,

> " Just a man who likes kids " , " Doesn't he do well with

children " . You

> never know, if my cousin would of stuck by her feelings this would

not of

> happened at least not to her son. Thats why I say a Mothers

intution is

> usually right. And better safe than sorry. >Becky M.

>

> >>

> Yep this guy is trying to befriend us and my kids. Not normal for

an adult

> man to follow kids around asking them questions. He asked

if she had

> any little girl friends around.

>

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It sounds to me you have received the right information. Stay away from the

creep and check with you county law enforcement agency to see if this guy is

a registered sex offender, then pass on them what you have seen and heard

from others in the area. He may be violating parol, and be locked up again.

Please do not let this guy off. Good luck jr

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In a message dated 9/6/2000 4:28:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

cmontana@... writes:

<< I would say go with the intuition, at any rate. He might be just

weird, but your kids don't need to be associated with weirdness

either, because they can get really scared. And fright is also very

traumatizing and damaging! >>

Thanks Carolyn. I am looking into digging a mote :)

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In a message dated 9/6/2000 9:56:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

oregonpapa@... writes:

<< Hey, ...

Have your husband show the guy his gun collection ...

The scary part is my husband would LOVE to show the guy his bullets too.

jenny

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In a message dated 9/6/2000 10:22:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

jross56922@... writes:

<<

It sounds to me you have received the right information. Stay away from the

creep and check with you county law enforcement agency to see if this guy is

a registered sex offender, then pass on them what you have seen and heard

from others in the area. He may be violating parol, and be locked up again.

Please do not let this guy off. Good luck jr >>

He's not registered as a sex offender.. I didn't think he would be he works

for NASA.

jenny

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...

You just uncovered the guy's problem ... if he works for NASA, he must be an

engineer. Engineers march to a different drummer. Does he wear black socks

with plaid shorts and a striped shirt? If so ... problem solved.

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In a message dated 9/6/2000 2:56:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

oregonpapa@... writes:

<< ...

You just uncovered the guy's problem ... if he works for NASA, he must be an

engineer. Engineers march to a different drummer. Does he wear black socks

with plaid shorts and a striped shirt? If so ... problem solved.

>>

Oh Now I have the added worry of an engineer living by me. What could be

worse?

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> lol. I know we've had neighbors call the police on the kids

before. The

> neighbors haven't bothered us in a while - not yet this summer! I

> guess they got bored with us or found a new game?

>

> Roxanna

Directly across the street is a house that they use for adults w/

problems such as Down Syndrome. Another neighbor has an AS son.

Another neighbor has two kids. One w/ ADHD(extreme) and the other

simply delayed. And the list goes on. So we fit right in. lol a

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In a message dated 8/8/03 3:44:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

@... writes:

> Oh, Roxanna! I wish you could move to my neighborhood, but we've got our

> share of snooty Stepford wives. The thought occurred to me to acquire

> land for a new subdivision called Aspie Hills, where you could spin,

> pick, growl, etc. to your heart's content. Just need the $$'s.

>

> Theresa

>

what a great idea, Theresa! It would be so nice to relax and get together

and do fun stuff.

Roxanna ôô

What doesn't kill us

Makes us really mean.

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In a message dated 8/10/2003 9:07:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

kneeleee@... writes:

> The thought occurred to me to acquire

> >land for a new subdivision called Aspie Hills, where you could spin,

> >pick, growl, etc. to your heart's content. Just need the $$'s.

> >

> >Theresa

>

Theresa,

Throw in an awesome school that loves our Aspies and I'm there!!!! This was

very funny. Johanna

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