Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. Love and prayers, Heidi N I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections? Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism? How does this differ from PITANDS? Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares? Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. Love and prayers, Heidi N I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections? Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism? How does this differ from PITANDS? Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares? Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well Re:LIA questions Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. Love and prayers,Heidi NI may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections?Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism?How does this differ from PITANDS?Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares?Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well Re:LIA questions Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. Love and prayers,Heidi NI may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections?Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism?How does this differ from PITANDS?Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares?Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 It has been discussed lately that the root of PANDAS is actually strep biofilm. My son and I have strep and lyme and lots of other things. I just started doing ACV and manuka honey in the morning and on day 3 I broke out in a scarlet fever rash. I think I am getting at a strep biofilm. Caryn > > PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well > > Re:LIA questions > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. > > Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > > > I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections? > > Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism? > > How does this differ from PITANDS? > > Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares? > > Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, > > especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Does the vinegar make your stomach hurt? We were doing a biofilm protocol with enzymes then pathogen killers, zeolite and binders. The enzymes killed my stomach and made we nausea. I don't know if that's a good thing or not but I would like to try something a little bit easier on the stomach if that's possible. That's wonderful that you saw something so quickly. Thanks. Re:LIA questions It has been discussed lately that the root of PANDAS is actually strep biofilm. My son and I have strep and lyme and lots of other things. I just started doing ACV and manuka honey in the morning and on day 3 I broke out in a scarlet fever rash. I think I am getting at a strep biofilm. Caryn > > PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well > > Re:LIA questions > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. > > Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short p eriod of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > > > I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections? > > Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism? > > How does this differ from PITANDS? > > Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares? > > Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, > > especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Does the vinegar make your stomach hurt? We were doing a biofilm protocol with enzymes then pathogen killers, zeolite and binders. The enzymes killed my stomach and made we nausea. I don't know if that's a good thing or not but I would like to try something a little bit easier on the stomach if that's possible. That's wonderful that you saw something so quickly. Thanks. Re:LIA questions It has been discussed lately that the root of PANDAS is actually strep biofilm. My son and I have strep and lyme and lots of other things. I just started doing ACV and manuka honey in the morning and on day 3 I broke out in a scarlet fever rash. I think I am getting at a strep biofilm. Caryn > > PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well > > Re:LIA questions > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. > > Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short p eriod of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > > > I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections? > > Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism? > > How does this differ from PITANDS? > > Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares? > > Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, > > especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Hi Heidi, would you mind posting which lab does CD 4/8 test and bunch of other tests you have mentioned here? Thanks, Sasmita > > PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well > > Re:LIA questions > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. > > Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > > > I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections? > > Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism? > > How does this differ from PITANDS? > > Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares? > > Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, > > especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Hi Heidi, would you mind posting which lab does CD 4/8 test and bunch of other tests you have mentioned here? Thanks, Sasmita > > PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well > > Re:LIA questions > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. > > Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > > > I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections? > > Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism? > > How does this differ from PITANDS? > > Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares? > > Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, > > especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Hi Heidi, would you mind posting which lab does CD 4/8 test and bunch of other tests you have mentioned here? Thanks, Sasmita > > PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well > > Re:LIA questions > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. > > Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > > > I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections? > > Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism? > > How does this differ from PITANDS? > > Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares? > > Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, > > especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I heard that EDTA also breaks down bio-films, it is good to combined this with other treatments that will kill the bacteria. J To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:15:26 PMSubject: Re:LIA questions It has been discussed lately that the root of PANDAS is actually strep biofilm. My son and I have strep and lyme and lots of other things. I just started doing ACV and manuka honey in the morning and on day 3 I broke out in a scarlet fever rash. I think I am getting at a strep biofilm.Caryn>> PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well> > Re:LIA questions> > > > Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. > > Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. > > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N> > > > > I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections?> > Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism?> > How does this differ from PITANDS?> > Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares?> > Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, > > especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA?> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I heard that EDTA also breaks down bio-films, it is good to combined this with other treatments that will kill the bacteria. J To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:15:26 PMSubject: Re:LIA questions It has been discussed lately that the root of PANDAS is actually strep biofilm. My son and I have strep and lyme and lots of other things. I just started doing ACV and manuka honey in the morning and on day 3 I broke out in a scarlet fever rash. I think I am getting at a strep biofilm.Caryn>> PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well> > Re:LIA questions> > > > Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. > > Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. > > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N> > > > > I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections?> > Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism?> > How does this differ from PITANDS?> > Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares?> > Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, > > especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA?> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I heard that EDTA also breaks down bio-films, it is good to combined this with other treatments that will kill the bacteria. J To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:15:26 PMSubject: Re:LIA questions It has been discussed lately that the root of PANDAS is actually strep biofilm. My son and I have strep and lyme and lots of other things. I just started doing ACV and manuka honey in the morning and on day 3 I broke out in a scarlet fever rash. I think I am getting at a strep biofilm.Caryn>> PANDAS and lyme (and yes I realize they are different things) are often linked with same type things see long term as well> > Re:LIA questions> > > > Yes, yes, and yes. Savvy docs do believe that many infections can be transmitted during pregnancy, many of which are immune-suppressing. TB only makes some ill and not others, so it is one of those pathogens that is associated with also having other pathogens or toxins, suppressing the immune system. What we are finding is that people are carrying many immune-suppressing pathogens, viral, bacterial and protozoan. This is why I recommend that those with autism get treated for all pathogen types. Toxins are involved as well. It appears that we need to treat for many things to get our health restored. There are usually a few pathogens that are causing each particular person the most symptoms. It is difficult to test for all the many possibilities. I like that many of the treatments kill whole groups of pathogens, so that you don't always need to know which ones you have. Also, killing some pathogens frees up your immune system to kill other pathogens. The most popular tests right now for infections are herpes strains (Epstein Barr, CMV, HHV6, etc.), CD 4/8 ratios and T-cells, CD 57 T-cells, Toxoplasmosis, Babesia, Guardi Lamblia, Lyme, Bartonella, Strep, Staph. XMRV and HTLV-1 should be getting more of the spotlight than they are, for they can be very immune-suppressing. You can start by testing CD 4/8 ratios and t-cells and CD 57 t-cells. These often come back abnormal, and then the docs are more likely to pursue the cause. Somewhere along the way, disruption is caused in the methylation detoxing pathways, so docs sometimes test homocysteine levels for that. It's difficult to fight off pathogens with toxin issues and difficult to detox with pathogen issues. This is why we have to do many things to bring recovery. You can request TB testing to see if it is a problem for you. > > Having worms is correlated to autism. Thus, just about any pathogen or toxin can be correlated. I know of adults who got Lyme and lost speech and developed many of the typical autism symptoms. Yes, unvaccinated people can get Lyme. I have seen several reports of children with autism who lost all symptoms when treated only for Lyme. Most are treated for more than Lyme to bring about recovery, and treatments are taking years. People with Lyme are full of regressions, flares, and relapses. I don't think there is a specific genetic defect yet that has been publicized to make one more likely to develop Lyme Disease, but we all have genetics that make us have have strengths and weaknesses against various pathogens and toxins. For my family, we seem to be susceptible to chronic Bartonella. But, I think there are many, many people the same. I think we have a complicated situation, wherein a very healthy individual can have a bunch of immune stressors within a short period of time and then develop chronic symptoms. I saw a report yesterday that vaccines lower t-cells, which is exactly what the Lyme needs to takeover. > > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N> > > > > I may be getting a lot more closer than I think to finding the cause for a lot of this stuff.My doctor wants me to be tested for TB the next time I go in.The more I think about it,and look into it,the more sense it makes.I always knew my autism was triggered by meningitis,when I was five months old.My mother always said I was in an iron lung at the time.Meningitis doesn't usually involve the lungs,unless there is TB involved.Is this right? My mother told me a few years ago,she tested positive for TB many times,starting when she was a child.So she very likely had latent TB while carrying us.TB can cause GI and joint problems similar to the ones my sister and I have.This got me thinking about Lyme,which can both pass from mother to baby,like TB can,can be latent in the mother,but can emerge in the baby,and as been linked to autism,but how about other infections?> > Are there other infections the mother can pass to the baby that have been linked to autism?> > How does this differ from PITANDS?> > Have unvaccinated babies,become very sick with Lyme,and then developed autism?Do they develop chronic medical problems similar to Lyme in addition to autism ? Are there regressions after flares?> > Infections like TB and Lyme are usualy associated with being immunocompromised, > > especially if they can lead to something like autism.Are there specific immune abnormlities in LIA?> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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