Re: Amalgam Replacements or Extractions first?

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheri

Quandrant at a time for lower jaw would be my choice - this gy alwasy gets a

bull eye with ID bloock and I'm numb for hours, I'd rather not do that one at

time LOL

Mandi in UK

> I'm sure you will see varying opinions.

> I got mine out a quadrant at a time

> Ddn't have any problems

> Was probably about 2-3 months in between just due to circumstances, but I

> was not not symptomatic - very healthy at the time.

> Sheri

>

[Guest guest]

an adult i know had a filling removed on monday and there was a

minimuim of drilling required, the dentist was able to hook most of

the filling out.

didn't think much of that link...

breathe though your nose so you don't inhale any amalgam bits into

the lungs...

i would be inclined to just have one filling removed at first to see

how it goes...

i think a bit depends on how easy the amalgams removed, like if a lot

of drilling was required then just have the one out....

its quite amazing how little tooth they need to build composite on, i

would look carefully at wether the extractions were necessary...

> Me Again

> Checking out some of more of those links Sheri posted and this link

says get

> them out one at a time with 6-8 weeks in between

> http://www.algonet.se/~leif/AmFAQk05.html#MINIMISE

>

> Is there any concensus on this?

> Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

At 03:50 AM 12/31/2002 EST, you wrote:

>Me Again

>Checking out some of more of those links Sheri posted and this link says get

>them out one at a time with 6-8 weeks in between

>http://www.algonet.se/~leif/AmFAQk05.html#MINIMISE

>

>Is there any concensus on this?

>Mandi in UK

I'm sure you will see varying opinions.

I got mine out a quadrant at a time

Ddn't have any problems

Was probably about 2-3 months in between just due to circumstances, but I

was not not symptomatic - very healthy at the time.

Sheri

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> My first question is should I have the extractions or replacments

done first.

I have no opinion or info.

> Also I work in a school so treatment in holidays would be

easier, that

> gives 6-9 weeks between visits. I'd have to wait until summer to do

the whole

> thing in 30 days and with the amount I have to do that seems to be

pushing it

personally, I'd go with what works best for the schedule. I also

PREFER to have time in between, because (for me) dental work is

hugely stressful.

> What sort of vitamin C can

be given

> IV? (dentist has IV skills but don't know when he last used them)

don't use C during the dental procedures-- (I know you said this,

so, sorry, I got lost:) it can nullify effects of anesthetic.

You can use it up to a day before. I don't know what kind it is

IV, but I had an IV of it once.

> Any thought and advice welcome

Well, not what you asked, but my advise is to arrange for some

restuful relaxing down time after the appointment. A hot tub

or a massage for example.

good luck!

Moria

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I had five old amalgams removed a couple of years ago. My dentist removed

those in one quadrant at a time (like upper left, lower right) with a

two-week break in between. I guess I did fine. (I had had my other five old

ones removed several years earlier.)

Lorilyn

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> My dental appointment is coming up next week and I wonder if you can

give

> some advice or point me in the right direction. Remember this is UK

we are

> talking about ( a rather backward country LOL)

>

> I was dental nurse for 10 years so I have some idea about whats

possible in

> my mouth. I beleive I will be looking at least 4 extractions of

molars (6's &

> 7's). I do not have any root fillings but I do have enormous

amalgams with

> very little tooth wall left and pins placed in order to get the

amlagam to

> stay.

Try onlays or crowns. These should be possible.

> My first question is should I have the extractions or replacments

done first.

> I am thinking that if extractions are done first, I have got rid of

a whole

> lot quite quickly but also remember Minna and think that then full

socket

> healing will need to be complete BEFORE we start drilling out

amalgams.

Correct. They need to be totally healed up so no amalgam chips get

into them and healed around and thus incorporated in your flesh - very

VERY bad. Even under a dam some dust can get there and you don't want

to take a chance.

>This

> order would also make placement of composites in adjoining teeth

easier to

> place.

Extract, wait a month, do composites.

Doing the prep for onlays would also make it much easier to do

composites in the adjoining teeth if they are done before the onlays

are glued down.

>

> I've had a quick read of Hal Huggins,

Who has a wildly excessively complicated and unnecessary protocol.

Just make sure you have a dam or the Clean-Up system, and breathe air

or oxygen thrrough a nosepiece (not a cannula).

> dentists is this country don't run

> labs. Also I work in a school so treatment in holidays would be

easier, that

> gives 6-9 weeks between visits. I'd have to wait until summer to do

the whole

> thing in 30 days and with the amount I have to do that seems to be

pushing it

> (I'll also have 3 small children to look after including my ASDer in

between

> appointments) I also noted HH said that oral Vit C will render

anaethestic

> useless in short time.

He is full of @(* & # on this one.

>I don't mind treatment but I need them numbing, as far

> as I can tell the teeth are still alive. What sort of vitamin C can

be given

> IV?

You can take all you want orally, and be given whatever you want iv.

If the iv is done after you are drilled there is no problem.

>(dentist has IV skills but don't know when he last used them)

iv c is not necessary. It is nice, and will prevent you from feeling

icky afterwards, but it is not at all necessary.

Also it works fine if the drip is done AFTER the dental work is all

over.

> Any thought and advice welcome

> MAndi in UK

Do make sure you are going to a MERCURY FREE dentist. If not, make

sure a friend observes the drilling to ensure all amalgam is removed.

Many don't bother because they don't think it matters and their

licensing boards can't be bothered to punish them for ripping off

patients by not performing the service

[Guest guest]

I had mine done one quadrant at a time, but because I had travelled from OK to

WI (nearly 12 yrs. ago) to someone experienced and who would do it properly, had

all four quadrants done within a week. Would recommend spacing it out more than

that if possible. S--- On Tue 12/31, & lt; Mum231ASD@... & gt;

wrote:From: [mailto: Mum231ASD@...] @...:

Tue, 31 Dec 2002 03:50:50 ESTSubject: [ ] Amalgam Replacements or

Extractions first?Me AgainChecking out some of more of those links Sheri posted

and this link says get them out one at a time with 6-8 weeks in

betweenhttp://www.algonet.se/~leif/AmFAQk05.html#MINIMISEIs there any concensus

on this?Mandi in UK

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Thanks Dolphi

My original plan was to see the only Mercury free dentist in the area, then I

found out his work has a reputation for not lastig too long:( and he wanted

outrageous amounts of money just to book the appointment.

Plan B - go back to the dentist I used to work for who is not Mercury Free

but willing to listen - I know he has the rubber dams, good suction and can

probably do the clean air with nasal mask - he has one but I've only seen it

used for light sedation and only a couple of times at that.

Apart from the size and quanity of my amalgams, I have the bite from hell -

he was brilliant about getting it right rather than going for just lets make

room and swing it all out of kilter as the last dentist did on a replacement.

He is technically very good, doesn't skimp on materials and won't be

overcharging me. His building has been dental surgery for over 30 years

though so bound to be source of vapours from spills.

Plan C - listmate from Uk had given her dentist details, probably about 3/4

hour away so that might be an option - I'll go get the check up and xrays and

see where I stand.

Thanks again

Mandi in UK

If you have extractions done first, you MUST wait until the surgery

>

> sites are totally healed or you will have debris from the replacements,

> including the mercury and silver powder getting into the healing

> tissues....this is BAD and very dangerous.

>

> If you have replacements done first, then the surgery, you'll have a

> more ideal situation. There are times and circumstances when you must

> make a decision based on other factors....that's why you go to a surgeon

> you have faith in and who is experienced and looking out for your best

> interests, not his daily depo$it$ into his bank account!

>

> Generally speaking, without knowing your particular health history and

> oral condition...replacements first, surgery last, unless you have total

> healing of the surgery sites prior to replacements....

>

> Re IV vitamin C during the dental procedure--I used it routinely on all

> patients during surgery for over 25 years ( sometimes up to 100 grams,

> yes ONE HUNDRED GRAMS [100,000mg] in 90 minutes), without any problems

> for the patients or the anesthetic, ONLY BENEFITS...there are several

> different blends available, generally with Magnesium and a few other

> things....each surgeon who routinely uses it, has their own

> preferences...once again, that's why you go to someone you trust who is

> experienced.

>

> I would NOT use HOT tub after the surgical procedures.

> Massage, reflexology, acupressure, acupuncture are all OK after, or

> prior to, either replacement or surgery

>

> Best advice---find a surgeon with integrity, experience and an

> understanding of you needs and desires, who communicates with you.

>

>

> > My first question is should I have the extractions or replacments

> done first.

>

> > What sort of vitamin C can

> be given

> > IV? (dentist has IV skills but don't know when he last used them)

>

> > Any thought and advice welcome

>

[Guest guest]

> > I also noted HH said that oral Vit C will render

> anaethestic

> > useless in short time.

>

> He is full of @(* & # on this one.

huh, well, I've read posts from people who said this happened!

Moria