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Sorry if the first message was not clear. Tania asked about Tuesday

Clinics and I am scheduled for June 12, since I will be in the area. My

surgery was 9/22/99.

Mike.....

Re: Clinic

Mike,

Who's schedule are you on?

Is Dr R now scheduling surgery dates again?

Georgina from Raleigh, NC

Clinic

>

> Hey Everyone

>

> Are clinics still on Tuesday's? I want to go to one when I am on

summer

>

> break on my way down to Florida, but didn't know when they are held

now.

>

> Anyone?

>

> Tania in MD

> 9/7/00 SW-242

> CW-170

> GW-118-128

>

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Mike,

Who's schedule are you on?

Is Dr R now scheduling surgery dates again?

Georgina from Raleigh, NC

Clinic

>

> Hey Everyone

>

> Are clinics still on Tuesday's? I want to go to one when I am on summer

>

> break on my way down to Florida, but didn't know when they are held now.

>

> Anyone?

>

> Tania in MD

> 9/7/00 SW-242

> CW-170

> GW-118-128

>

>

>

>

>

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mike,

I did not send you that message you received from me. I know that Dr R

is NOT scheduling surgery at this time.

Georgina in Raleigh

Clinic

> >

> > Hey Everyone

> >

> > Are clinics still on Tuesday's? I want to go to one when I am on summer

> >

> > break on my way down to Florida, but didn't know when they are held now.

> >

> > Anyone?

> >

> > Tania in MD

> > 9/7/00 SW-242

> > CW-170

> > GW-118-128

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Just wondering, does Griselda (pardon if spelling wrong) do testing, by mail?

For what it's worth, I thought Gr. and Silv. were two of the most realistic and

smart people there at the clinic when I was there a couple years ago.

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Hi Pasta:

Would you mind tell me what you were at the clinic for and what was your

experience there?

I have never talked to anyone (that I know of) that has gone there for treatment

and

healed their illness. Actually, i have never talked to anyone who has shared

any kind of

experience at the clinic. I have gone to the clinic just to see it and meet the

people.

I did not have a good reception. People did not want to talk to me. They seem

to be afraid

that maybe I was going to harm them in some way. I really did not understand.

My intentions

were good. To be honest I was disappointed. I was hoping to come back and tell

everyone.

of the great things they were doing there, instead I came back really confused

because

I truly believe that Dr. is extremely honest, knowledgeable and dedicated

to her work.

Griselda was particularly suspicious and unfriendly. The only person who was

really

nice was a nurse that works with Dr. . I wish I had her name to give her

credit.

I don't remember it right now. I have it in my notes somewhere.

Please someone explain this to me....

thanks,

________________________________

From: pastahaste <pastahaste@...>

Dr

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:28:34 PM

Subject: Re: clinic

Just wondering, does Griselda (pardon if spelling wrong) do testing, by mail?

For what it's worth, I thought Gr. and Silv. were two of the most realistic and

smart people there at the clinic when I was there a couple years ago.

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I went to the clinic with extremely low energy and severe heart arrythmias. I

saw Dr. & she told me a few things, I did some dental work, Dr. A--- was

great. I haven't recovered since then or made any real progress, although

changing my water source seemed to help, and zapping seems to help overall I

guess. It's hard to say if anything else I've done has helped. So, I'm pretty

much SOL ;) at this point in time, although I'm still trying to work on a couple

more health improvement things. I wasn't expecting a miracle but it would have

been nice to have noticed something for having removed all 8 of my chewing

teeth, oh well, it had to be done anyway, I was highly allergic to the fillings

I had. Mainstream medical has been completely totally ridiculously insultingly

nonsensically insane and just plain useless, what a crazy world we live in. I

wish I could see Dr. on a one-appointment-at-a-time basis, but the last

time I checked they only allowed multi-week multi-thousand-dollar visits. In my

case, and for most of the other patients as well, I really needed to just go for

one appointment, then do all my dental work and other things, and then at a

later date go back for follow-up appointments, rather than book in for the 2

week " program " but they had no other option. I ended up staying another

additional few weeks (no longer in their program) so that I could finish up my

dental work as it was stuff I couldn't do in a short time frame. Staff and

patients were friendly when I was there. I was expecting more hand-holding and

attention, but it's more of a self-serve kind of atmosphere, and things that

should have been provided were not or were lacking, so basically, home was a

much better place to work on getting better, not there at the roach motel.

I don't know what happened to most of the people I met there, I know a couple

of people died, to my surprise, I don't know why I'm surprised - people get sick

and die, anyhoo, one person wasn't really feeling much better, and I guess the

others weren't so bad off symptom-wise in the first place so I assume they are

doing OK.

As for your unfriendly welcome, I am guessing they are generally guarded

against people that are not a patient or who they don't know, per obvious

reasons. Maybe the patients were a bit disoriented and confused and didn't know

who you really were, maybe they were even told to avoid you - who knows? It

would be nice if they had nice facilities including a community area where

patients could hang out with each other, and prospective patients &

professionals/researchers could visit.

>

> Hi Pasta:

> Would you mind tell me what you were at the clinic for and what was your

experience there?

> I have never talked to anyone (that I know of) that has gone there for

treatment and

> healed their illness. Actually, i have never talked to anyone who has shared

any kind of

> experience at the clinic. I have gone to the clinic just to see it and meet

the people.

> I did not have a good reception. People did not want to talk to me. They

seem to be afraid

> that maybe I was going to harm them in some way. I really did not understand.

My intentions

> were good. To be honest I was disappointed. I was hoping to come back and

tell everyone.

> of the great things they were doing there, instead I came back really confused

because

> I truly believe that Dr. is extremely honest, knowledgeable and

dedicated to her work.

> Griselda was particularly suspicious and unfriendly. The only person who was

really

> nice was a nurse that works with Dr. . I wish I had her name to give her

credit.

> I don't remember it right now. I have it in my notes somewhere.

> Please someone explain this to me....

> thanks,

>

>

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Hi Pasta:

Thanks for responding. You are the only one who had a

comment to my post.

I have a few questions, if you don't mind...

Did you have a specific list of symptoms when you got there besides the

Arrythmia?

Has your Arrythmia improved at all? With Dr. s suggestions?

How did you change your water source?

How did this help you?

How did zapping actually help you?

After you removed your fillings, did you check yourself for heavymetals and did

your chelate?

Do you get the feeling that the clinic is mostly a research hospital?

have you had your thyroid checked?

Have you looked into vitamin and mineral deficiencies and Arrythmias?

Do you have any clue as to why you have this problem.... does it run in the

family?

Do you still have other things to do that Dr. recommend to you?

Hey pasta, I am sorry to be so nosy (is that a word?_) I just want

to know how all of this really helped you and I have encountered in

my readings here and there the subject of arrythmia. I just can't

remember the sources. I will keep this in mind and send you

stuff if I find something that sounds intereting.

thanks

linda

________________________________

From: pastahaste <pastahaste@...>

Dr

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:39:30 PM

Subject: Re: clinic

I went to the clinic with extremely low energy and severe heart arrythmias. I

saw Dr. & she told me a few things, I did some dental work, Dr. A--- was

great. I haven't recovered since then or made any real progress, although

changing my water source seemed to help, and zapping seems to help overall I

guess. It's hard to say if anything else I've done has helped. So, I'm pretty

much SOL ;) at this point in time, although I'm still trying to work on a couple

more health improvement things. I wasn't expecting a miracle but it would have

been nice to have noticed something for having removed all 8 of my chewing

teeth, oh well, it had to be done anyway, I was highly allergic to the fillings

I had. Mainstream medical has been completely totally ridiculously insultingly

nonsensically insane and just plain useless, what a crazy world we live in. I

wish I could see Dr. on a one-appointment- at-a-time basis, but the last

time I checked they only

allowed multi-week multi-thousand- dollar visits. In my case, and for most of

the other patients as well, I really needed to just go for one appointment, then

do all my dental work and other things, and then at a later date go back for

follow-up appointments, rather than book in for the 2 week " program " but they

had no other option. I ended up staying another additional few weeks (no longer

in their program) so that I could finish up my dental work as it was stuff I

couldn't do in a short time frame. Staff and patients were friendly when I was

there. I was expecting more hand-holding and attention, but it's more of a

self-serve kind of atmosphere, and things that should have been provided were

not or were lacking, so basically, home was a much better place to work on

getting better, not there at the roach motel.

I don't know what happened to most of the people I met there, I know a couple of

people died, to my surprise, I don't know why I'm surprised - people get sick

and die, anyhoo, one person wasn't really feeling much better, and I guess the

others weren't so bad off symptom-wise in the first place so I assume they are

doing OK.

As for your unfriendly welcome, I am guessing they are generally guarded against

people that are not a patient or who they don't know, per obvious reasons. Maybe

the patients were a bit disoriented and confused and didn't know who you really

were, maybe they were even told to avoid you - who knows? It would be nice if

they had nice facilities including a community area where patients could hang

out with each other, and prospective patients & professionals/ researchers could

visit.

>

> Hi Pasta:

> Would you mind tell me what you were at the clinic for and what was your

experience there?

> I have never talked to anyone (that I know of) that has gone there for

treatment and

> healed their illness. Actually, i have never talked to anyone who has shared

any kind of

> experience at the clinic. I have gone to the clinic just to see it and meet

the people.

> I did not have a good reception. People did not want to talk to me. They

seem to be afraid

> that maybe I was going to harm them in some way. I really did not understand.

My intentions

> were good. To be honest I was disappointed. I was hoping to come back and

tell everyone.

> of the great things they were doing there, instead I came back really confused

because

> I truly believe that Dr. is extremely honest, knowledgeable and

dedicated to her work.

> Griselda was particularly suspicious and unfriendly. The only person who was

really

> nice was a nurse that works with Dr. . I wish I had her name to give her

credit.

> I don't remember it right now. I have it in my notes somewhere.

> Please someone explain this to me....

> thanks,

>

>

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I pick up a little arrythmia once a year or so (I generally associate it when I

have been digging in the yard or playing with a dog or something like that where

I think I may pick up some parasites) but for whatever reason I do pick it up

very rarely. I zap many hours (maybe 12 or so) using the 20 minute off 14 minute

on routine of two frequencies with both feet and hand paddles. It usually takes

care of it in several days - even 1 day especially if I do it within a day of

getting it. I just take the time off and watch tv while Im doing it to not get

bored.

Dr

From: lindae321@...

Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:10:51 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: clinic

Hi Pasta:

Thanks for responding. You are the only one who had a

comment to my post.

I have a few questions, if you don't mind...

Did you have a specific list of symptoms when you got there besides the

Arrythmia?

Has your Arrythmia improved at all? With Dr. s suggestions?

How did you change your water source?

How did this help you?

How did zapping actually help you?

After you removed your fillings, did you check yourself for heavymetals and did

your chelate?

Do you get the feeling that the clinic is mostly a research hospital?

have you had your thyroid checked?

Have you looked into vitamin and mineral deficiencies and Arrythmias?

Do you have any clue as to why you have this problem.... does it run in the

family?

Do you still have other things to do that Dr. recommend to you?

Hey pasta, I am sorry to be so nosy (is that a word?_) I just want

to know how all of this really helped you and I have encountered in

my readings here and there the subject of arrythmia. I just can't

remember the sources. I will keep this in mind and send you

stuff if I find something that sounds intereting.

thanks

linda

________________________________

From: pastahaste <pastahaste@...>

Dr

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:39:30 PM

Subject: Re: clinic

I went to the clinic with extremely low energy and severe heart arrythmias. I

saw Dr. & she told me a few things, I did some dental work, Dr. A--- was

great. I haven't recovered since then or made any real progress, although

changing my water source seemed to help, and zapping seems to help overall I

guess. It's hard to say if anything else I've done has helped. So, I'm pretty

much SOL ;) at this point in time, although I'm still trying to work on a couple

more health improvement things. I wasn't expecting a miracle but it would have

been nice to have noticed something for having removed all 8 of my chewing

teeth, oh well, it had to be done anyway, I was highly allergic to the fillings

I had. Mainstream medical has been completely totally ridiculously insultingly

nonsensically insane and just plain useless, what a crazy world we live in. I

wish I could see Dr. on a one-appointment- at-a-time basis, but the last

time I checked they only

allowed multi-week multi-thousand- dollar visits. In my case, and for most of

the other patients as well, I really needed to just go for one appointment, then

do all my dental work and other things, and then at a later date go back for

follow-up appointments, rather than book in for the 2 week " program " but they

had no other option. I ended up staying another additional few weeks (no longer

in their program) so that I could finish up my dental work as it was stuff I

couldn't do in a short time frame. Staff and patients were friendly when I was

there. I was expecting more hand-holding and attention, but it's more of a

self-serve kind of atmosphere, and things that should have been provided were

not or were lacking, so basically, home was a much better place to work on

getting better, not there at the roach motel.

I don't know what happened to most of the people I met there, I know a couple of

people died, to my surprise, I don't know why I'm surprised - people get sick

and die, anyhoo, one person wasn't really feeling much better, and I guess the

others weren't so bad off symptom-wise in the first place so I assume they are

doing OK.

As for your unfriendly welcome, I am guessing they are generally guarded against

people that are not a patient or who they don't know, per obvious reasons. Maybe

the patients were a bit disoriented and confused and didn't know who you really

were, maybe they were even told to avoid you - who knows? It would be nice if

they had nice facilities including a community area where patients could hang

out with each other, and prospective patients & professionals/ researchers could

visit.

>

> Hi Pasta:

> Would you mind tell me what you were at the clinic for and what was your

experience there?

> I have never talked to anyone (that I know of) that has gone there for

treatment and

> healed their illness. Actually, i have never talked to anyone who has shared

any kind of

> experience at the clinic. I have gone to the clinic just to see it and meet

the people.

> I did not have a good reception. People did not want to talk to me. They seem

to be afraid

> that maybe I was going to harm them in some way. I really did not understand.

My intentions

> were good. To be honest I was disappointed. I was hoping to come back and tell

everyone.

> of the great things they were doing there, instead I came back really confused

because

> I truly believe that Dr. is extremely honest, knowledgeable and

dedicated to her work.

> Griselda was particularly suspicious and unfriendly. The only person who was

really

> nice was a nurse that works with Dr. . I wish I had her name to give her

credit.

> I don't remember it right now. I have it in my notes somewhere.

> Please someone explain this to me....

> thanks,

>

>

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Well pasta, it works for you.!

Are you very active otherwise. Is it the strenuous exercise or is it parasites?

thanks

linda

________________________________

From: t p <tparker7600@...>

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 12:21:47 AM

Subject: RE: Re: clinic

I pick up a little arrythmia once a year or so (I generally associate it when I

have been digging in the yard or playing with a dog or something like that where

I think I may pick up some parasites) but for whatever reason I do pick it up

very rarely. I zap many hours (maybe 12 or so) using the 20 minute off 14 minute

on routine of two frequencies with both feet and hand paddles. It usually takes

care of it in several days - even 1 day especially if I do it within a day of

getting it. I just take the time off and watch tv while Im doing it to not get

bored.

Dr

From: lindae321@...

Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:10:51 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: clinic

Hi Pasta:

Thanks for responding. You are the only one who had a

comment to my post.

I have a few questions, if you don't mind...

Did you have a specific list of symptoms when you got there besides the

Arrythmia?

Has your Arrythmia improved at all? With Dr. s suggestions?

How did you change your water source?

How did this help you?

How did zapping actually help you?

After you removed your fillings, did you check yourself for heavymetals and did

your chelate?

Do you get the feeling that the clinic is mostly a research hospital?

have you had your thyroid checked?

Have you looked into vitamin and mineral deficiencies and Arrythmias?

Do you have any clue as to why you have this problem.... does it run in the

family?

Do you still have other things to do that Dr. recommend to you?

Hey pasta, I am sorry to be so nosy (is that a word?_) I just want

to know how all of this really helped you and I have encountered in

my readings here and there the subject of arrythmia. I just can't

remember the sources. I will keep this in mind and send you

stuff if I find something that sounds intereting.

thanks

linda

________________________________

From: pastahaste <pastahaste@...>

Dr

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:39:30 PM

Subject: Re: clinic

I went to the clinic with extremely low energy and severe heart arrythmias. I

saw Dr. & she told me a few things, I did some dental work, Dr. A--- was

great. I haven't recovered since then or made any real progress, although

changing my water source seemed to help, and zapping seems to help overall I

guess. It's hard to say if anything else I've done has helped. So, I'm pretty

much SOL ;) at this point in time, although I'm still trying to work on a couple

more health improvement things. I wasn't expecting a miracle but it would have

been nice to have noticed something for having removed all 8 of my chewing

teeth, oh well, it had to be done anyway, I was highly allergic to the fillings

I had. Mainstream medical has been completely totally ridiculously insultingly

nonsensically insane and just plain useless, what a crazy world we live in. I

wish I could see Dr. on a one-appointment- at-a-time basis, but the last

time I checked they only

allowed multi-week multi-thousand- dollar visits. In my case, and for most of

the other patients as well, I really needed to just go for one appointment, then

do all my dental work and other things, and then at a later date go back for

follow-up appointments, rather than book in for the 2 week " program " but they

had no other option. I ended up staying another additional few weeks (no longer

in their program) so that I could finish up my dental work as it was stuff I

couldn't do in a short time frame. Staff and patients were friendly when I was

there. I was expecting more hand-holding and attention, but it's more of a

self-serve kind of atmosphere, and things that should have been provided were

not or were lacking, so basically, home was a much better place to work on

getting better, not there at the roach motel.

I don't know what happened to most of the people I met there, I know a couple of

people died, to my surprise, I don't know why I'm surprised - people get sick

and die, anyhoo, one person wasn't really feeling much better, and I guess the

others weren't so bad off symptom-wise in the first place so I assume they are

doing OK.

As for your unfriendly welcome, I am guessing they are generally guarded against

people that are not a patient or who they don't know, per obvious reasons. Maybe

the patients were a bit disoriented and confused and didn't know who you really

were, maybe they were even told to avoid you - who knows? It would be nice if

they had nice facilities including a community area where patients could hang

out with each other, and prospective patients & professionals/ researchers could

visit.

>

> Hi Pasta:

> Would you mind tell me what you were at the clinic for and what was your

experience there?

> I have never talked to anyone (that I know of) that has gone there for

treatment and

> healed their illness. Actually, i have never talked to anyone who has shared

any kind of

> experience at the clinic. I have gone to the clinic just to see it and meet

the people.

> I did not have a good reception. People did not want to talk to me. They seem

to be afraid

> that maybe I was going to harm them in some way. I really did not understand.

My intentions

> were good. To be honest I was disappointed. I was hoping to come back and tell

everyone.

> of the great things they were doing there, instead I came back really confused

because

> I truly believe that Dr. is extremely honest, knowledgeable and

dedicated to her work.

> Griselda was particularly suspicious and unfriendly. The only person who was

really

> nice was a nurse that works with Dr. . I wish I had her name to give her

credit.

> I don't remember it right now. I have it in my notes somewhere.

> Please someone explain this to me....

> thanks,

>

>

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Hi Pasta:

Thanks for responding. You are the only one who had a

comment to my post.

I have a question if you don't mind...

Did you have a specific list of symptoms when you got there besides the

Arrythmia?

Has your Arrythmia improved at all?

How did you change your water source?

How did this help you?

How did zapping actually help you?

After you removed your fillings, did you check yourself for heavymetals and did

your chelate?

Do you get the feeling that the clinic is mostly a research hospital?

have you had your thyroid checked?

Have you looked into vitamin and mineral deficiencies and Arrythmias?

Do you have any clue as to why you have this problem.... does it run in the

family?

________________________________

From: pastahaste <pastahaste@...>

Dr

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:39:30 PM

Subject: Re: clinic

I went to the clinic with extremely low energy and severe heart arrythmias. I

saw Dr. & she told me a few things, I did some dental work, Dr. A--- was

great. I haven't recovered since then or made any real progress, although

changing my water source seemed to help, and zapping seems to help overall I

guess. It's hard to say if anything else I've done has helped. So, I'm pretty

much SOL ;) at this point in time, although I'm still trying to work on a couple

more health improvement things. I wasn't expecting a miracle but it would have

been nice to have noticed something for having removed all 8 of my chewing

teeth, oh well, it had to be done anyway, I was highly allergic to the fillings

I had. Mainstream medical has been completely totally ridiculously insultingly

nonsensically insane and just plain useless, what a crazy world we live in. I

wish I could see Dr. on a one-appointment- at-a-time basis, but the last

time I checked they only

allowed multi-week multi-thousand- dollar visits. In my case, and for most of

the other patients as well, I really needed to just go for one appointment, then

do all my dental work and other things, and then at a later date go back for

follow-up appointments, rather than book in for the 2 week " program " but they

had no other option. I ended up staying another additional few weeks (no longer

in their program) so that I could finish up my dental work as it was stuff I

couldn't do in a short time frame. Staff and patients were friendly when I was

there. I was expecting more hand-holding and attention, but it's more of a

self-serve kind of atmosphere, and things that should have been provided were

not or were lacking, so basically, home was a much better place to work on

getting better, not there at the roach motel.

I don't know what happened to most of the people I met there, I know a couple of

people died, to my surprise, I don't know why I'm surprised - people get sick

and die, anyhoo, one person wasn't really feeling much better, and I guess the

others weren't so bad off symptom-wise in the first place so I assume they are

doing OK.

As for your unfriendly welcome, I am guessing they are generally guarded against

people that are not a patient or who they don't know, per obvious reasons. Maybe

the patients were a bit disoriented and confused and didn't know who you really

were, maybe they were even told to avoid you - who knows? It would be nice if

they had nice facilities including a community area where patients could hang

out with each other, and prospective patients & professionals/ researchers could

visit.

>

> Hi Pasta:

> Would you mind tell me what you were at the clinic for and what was your

experience there?

> I have never talked to anyone (that I know of) that has gone there for

treatment and

> healed their illness. Actually, i have never talked to anyone who has shared

any kind of

> experience at the clinic. I have gone to the clinic just to see it and meet

the people.

> I did not have a good reception. People did not want to talk to me. They

seem to be afraid

> that maybe I was going to harm them in some way. I really did not understand.

My intentions

> were good. To be honest I was disappointed. I was hoping to come back and

tell everyone.

> of the great things they were doing there, instead I came back really confused

because

> I truly believe that Dr. is extremely honest, knowledgeable and

dedicated to her work.

> Griselda was particularly suspicious and unfriendly. The only person who was

really

> nice was a nurse that works with Dr. . I wish I had her name to give her

credit.

> I don't remember it right now. I have it in my notes somewhere.

> Please someone explain this to me....

> thanks,

>

>

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I did have a specific list of symptoms, two major ones, and some others. My

arrythmia/etc (it's much worse than a minor arrythmia btw) has improved by

changing from a roadside bottle-your-own-well-water to filtered tap water.

That's the only time I ever noticed any improvement. I recently switched again

to even better water so I'm happy about that, but I digress. Zapping seems to

just overall give me more energy, as far as I can tell, I'm not scientific about

this though. I didn't " check myself for heavy metals " after replacing my metal

fillings with composite. I didn't chelate at that time either, I was just

starting to learn about Dr. at that time. I wouldn't say the clinic is

" mostly a research hospital " , it seems to me it is more of an office where

patients meet with Dr. and they do paperwork there and such, I think Dr.

does research at her own private location(s), unknown to me of course. I

have not had my thyroid checked, although I have had basic blood tests for it,

and many doctors said the results were normal, although I read a suggestion on

this group somewhat recently that the " normal " levels might be a little too low

so I've been taking lugol's iodine and it seems to help a little with my overall

energy but again I'm not scientifically sure of this. I haven't looked into

vitamin & mineral deficiencies, I'm not sure how to do this, maybe a hair sample

I guess, I'm not sure. My problem doesn't run in the family. I'm not sure

exactly why it happened, one week I was OK, and the next I just started going

downhill with heart problems. I felt like I had a couple heart attacks leading

up to it, and I was living in a mold-infested old house for two years, plus it

had an old poorly vented propane heater. Again, I hadn't learned about Dr.

yet at that time, I know she would not approve of the environmental toxins I was

exposed to. Maybe that had something to do with my getting health problems, I

don't know. After visiting the clinic, I did everything Dr. said to do,

which was basically just take some basic immune supporting supplements, switch

to tap water (she tested a sample from my house), and do all the dental work she

suggested. I did all of the dental work, except for 2 of my teeth - I replaced

the old composite fillings with safe plastic rather than extract them. It was a

tough decision and a tough time for me. I was in Mexico of course, and my

" caretaker " took off on me for no reason. That's another story ;), basically

they are a psycho on the loose that should be in rehab somewhere, they conned me

into letting them go to Mexico with me. Anyhoo, I barely had enough energy to

ride in a taxi to a grocery store to get food, and I could only eat some basic

stuff like some veggies, fruit, and bread, as my heart goes awry if I eat

anything processed. And all the time I have a hard time moving & sitting because

it somehow hurts my heart. And I was running out of money, my credit card got

eaten by an ATM machine because I forgot to call my credit card company and let

them know I'd be using it in Mexico. And the airline wouldn't let me bring

liquids or blended foods to eat for the long ride home due to new security

procedures so I had to have SOME teeth left to chew a little bit just to make it

home, as I am extremely hypoglycemic as well, lucky me. Now those teeth are

rotting behind the fillings so I'm finally going to extract them soon, figures.

Thanks for your thoughts .

>

> Hi Pasta:

> Thanks for responding. You are the only one who had a

> comment to my post.

> I have a few questions, if you don't mind...

> Did you have a specific list of symptoms when you got there besides the

Arrythmia?

> Has your Arrythmia improved at all? With Dr. s suggestions?

> How did you change your water source?

> How did this help you?

> How did zapping actually help you?

> After you removed your fillings, did you check yourself for heavymetals and

did your chelate?

> Do you get the feeling that the clinic is mostly a research hospital?

> have you had your thyroid checked?

> Have you looked into vitamin and mineral deficiencies and Arrythmias?

> Do you have any clue as to why you have this problem.... does it run in the

family?

> Do you still have other things to do that Dr. recommend to you?

>

> Hey pasta, I am sorry to be so nosy (is that a word?_) I just want

> to know how all of this really helped you and I have encountered in

> my readings here and there the subject of arrythmia. I just can't

> remember the sources. I will keep this in mind and send you

> stuff if I find something that sounds intereting.

> thanks

> linda

>

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Hello,

 

I developed a terrible arythmia after using the zapper for a few weeks.  It's

still going on and I stopped the zapping for a few months now.  Has anyone had

this happen as a trigger or could I have killed off some parasites in my heart. 

I do have lyme and arythmia has been a symptom over the years.  I understand

that lyme can cause carditis.  Any thoughts anyone?  Would anyone recommend

starting again?  I do have the super zappicator as well.

 

Best,  Edy

From: <lindae321@...>

Subject: Re: Re: clinic

Dr

Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 10:39 AM

Hi Pasta:

Thanks for responding. You are the only one who had a

comment to my post.

I have a question if you don't mind...

Did you have a specific list of symptoms when you got there besides the

Arrythmia?

Has your Arrythmia improved at all?

How did you change your water source?

How did this help you?

How did zapping actually help you?

After you removed your fillings, did you check yourself for heavymetals and did

your chelate?

Do you get the feeling that the clinic is mostly a research hospital?

have you had your thyroid checked?

Have you looked into vitamin and mineral deficiencies and Arrythmias?

Do you have any clue as to why you have this problem.... does it run in the

family?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: pastahaste <pastahaste (DOT) com>

Dr@groups .com

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:39:30 PM

Subject: Re: clinic

I went to the clinic with extremely low energy and severe heart arrythmias. I

saw Dr. & she told me a few things, I did some dental work, Dr. A--- was

great. I haven't recovered since then or made any real progress, although

changing my water source seemed to help, and zapping seems to help overall I

guess. It's hard to say if anything else I've done has helped. So, I'm pretty

much SOL ;) at this point in time, although I'm still trying to work on a couple

more health improvement things. I wasn't expecting a miracle but it would have

been nice to have noticed something for having removed all 8 of my chewing

teeth, oh well, it had to be done anyway, I was highly allergic to the fillings

I had. Mainstream medical has been completely totally ridiculously insultingly

nonsensically insane and just plain useless, what a crazy world we live in. I

wish I could see Dr. on a one-appointment- at-a-time basis, but the last

time I checked they only

allowed multi-week multi-thousand- dollar visits. In my case, and for most of

the other patients as well, I really needed to just go for one appointment, then

do all my dental work and other things, and then at a later date go back for

follow-up appointments, rather than book in for the 2 week " program " but they

had no other option. I ended up staying another additional few weeks (no longer

in their program) so that I could finish up my dental work as it was stuff I

couldn't do in a short time frame. Staff and patients were friendly when I was

there. I was expecting more hand-holding and attention, but it's more of a

self-serve kind of atmosphere, and things that should have been provided were

not or were lacking, so basically, home was a much better place to work on

getting better, not there at the roach motel.

I don't know what happened to most of the people I met there, I know a couple of

people died, to my surprise, I don't know why I'm surprised - people get sick

and die, anyhoo, one person wasn't really feeling much better, and I guess the

others weren't so bad off symptom-wise in the first place so I assume they are

doing OK.

As for your unfriendly welcome, I am guessing they are generally guarded against

people that are not a patient or who they don't know, per obvious reasons. Maybe

the patients were a bit disoriented and confused and didn't know who you really

were, maybe they were even told to avoid you - who knows? It would be nice if

they had nice facilities including a community area where patients could hang

out with each other, and prospective patients & professionals/ researchers could

visit.

>

> Hi Pasta:

> Would you mind tell me what you were at the clinic for and what was your

experience there?

> I have never talked to anyone (that I know of) that has gone there for

treatment and

> healed their illness. Actually, i have never talked to anyone who has shared

any kind of

> experience at the clinic. I have gone to the clinic just to see it and meet

the people.

> I did not have a good reception. People did not want to talk to me. They seem

to be afraid

> that maybe I was going to harm them in some way. I really did not understand.

My intentions

> were good. To be honest I was disappointed. I was hoping to come back and tell

everyone.

> of the great things they were doing there, instead I came back really confused

because

> I truly believe that Dr. is extremely honest, knowledgeable and

dedicated to her work.

> Griselda was particularly suspicious and unfriendly. The only person who was

really

> nice was a nurse that works with Dr. . I wish I had her name to give her

credit.

> I don't remember it right now. I have it in my notes somewhere.

> Please someone explain this to me....

> thanks,

>

>

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That's what I use to get rid of arythmia. lol

Dr

From: edyrayfield@...

Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:08:12 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: clinic

Hello,

I developed a terrible arythmia after using the zapper for a few weeks. It's

still going on and I stopped the zapping for a few months now. Has anyone had

this happen as a trigger or could I have killed off some parasites in my heart.

I do have lyme and arythmia has been a symptom over the years. I understand

that lyme can cause carditis. Any thoughts anyone? Would anyone recommend

starting again? I do have the super zappicator as well.

Best, Edy

From: <lindae321@...>

Subject: Re: Re: clinic

Dr

Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 10:39 AM

Hi Pasta:

Thanks for responding. You are the only one who had a

comment to my post.

I have a question if you don't mind...

Did you have a specific list of symptoms when you got there besides the

Arrythmia?

Has your Arrythmia improved at all?

How did you change your water source?

How did this help you?

How did zapping actually help you?

After you removed your fillings, did you check yourself for heavymetals and did

your chelate?

Do you get the feeling that the clinic is mostly a research hospital?

have you had your thyroid checked?

Have you looked into vitamin and mineral deficiencies and Arrythmias?

Do you have any clue as to why you have this problem.... does it run in the

family?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: pastahaste <pastahaste (DOT) com>

Dr@groups .com

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:39:30 PM

Subject: Re: clinic

I went to the clinic with extremely low energy and severe heart arrythmias. I

saw Dr. & she told me a few things, I did some dental work, Dr. A--- was

great. I haven't recovered since then or made any real progress, although

changing my water source seemed to help, and zapping seems to help overall I

guess. It's hard to say if anything else I've done has helped. So, I'm pretty

much SOL ;) at this point in time, although I'm still trying to work on a couple

more health improvement things. I wasn't expecting a miracle but it would have

been nice to have noticed something for having removed all 8 of my chewing

teeth, oh well, it had to be done anyway, I was highly allergic to the fillings

I had. Mainstream medical has been completely totally ridiculously insultingly

nonsensically insane and just plain useless, what a crazy world we live in. I

wish I could see Dr. on a one-appointment- at-a-time basis, but the last

time I checked they only

allowed multi-week multi-thousand- dollar visits. In my case, and for most of

the other patients as well, I really needed to just go for one appointment, then

do all my dental work and other things, and then at a later date go back for

follow-up appointments, rather than book in for the 2 week " program " but they

had no other option. I ended up staying another additional few weeks (no longer

in their program) so that I could finish up my dental work as it was stuff I

couldn't do in a short time frame. Staff and patients were friendly when I was

there. I was expecting more hand-holding and attention, but it's more of a

self-serve kind of atmosphere, and things that should have been provided were

not or were lacking, so basically, home was a much better place to work on

getting better, not there at the roach motel.

I don't know what happened to most of the people I met there, I know a couple of

people died, to my surprise, I don't know why I'm surprised - people get sick

and die, anyhoo, one person wasn't really feeling much better, and I guess the

others weren't so bad off symptom-wise in the first place so I assume they are

doing OK.

As for your unfriendly welcome, I am guessing they are generally guarded against

people that are not a patient or who they don't know, per obvious reasons. Maybe

the patients were a bit disoriented and confused and didn't know who you really

were, maybe they were even told to avoid you - who knows? It would be nice if

they had nice facilities including a community area where patients could hang

out with each other, and prospective patients & professionals/ researchers could

visit.

>

> Hi Pasta:

> Would you mind tell me what you were at the clinic for and what was your

experience there?

> I have never talked to anyone (that I know of) that has gone there for

treatment and

> healed their illness. Actually, i have never talked to anyone who has shared

any kind of

> experience at the clinic. I have gone to the clinic just to see it and meet

the people.

> I did not have a good reception. People did not want to talk to me. They seem

to be afraid

> that maybe I was going to harm them in some way. I really did not understand.

My intentions

> were good. To be honest I was disappointed. I was hoping to come back and tell

everyone.

> of the great things they were doing there, instead I came back really confused

because

> I truly believe that Dr. is extremely honest, knowledgeable and

dedicated to her work.

> Griselda was particularly suspicious and unfriendly. The only person who was

really

> nice was a nurse that works with Dr. . I wish I had her name to give her

credit.

> I don't remember it right now. I have it in my notes somewhere.

> Please someone explain this to me....

> thanks,

>

>

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From: <lindae321 (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: clinic

Dr@groups .com

Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 10:39 AM

Hi Pasta:

Thanks for responding. You are the only one who had a

comment to my post.

I have a question if you don't mind...

Did you have a specific list of symptoms when you got there besides the

Arrythmia?

Has your Arrythmia improved at all?

How did you change your water source?

How did this help you?

How did zapping actually help you?

After you removed your fillings, did you check yourself for heavymetals and did

your chelate?

Do you get the feeling that the clinic is mostly a research hospital?

have you had your thyroid checked?

Have you looked into vitamin and mineral deficiencies and Arrythmias?

Do you have any clue as to why you have this problem.... does it run in the

family?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: pastahaste <pastahaste@ . com>

Dr@groups .com

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:39:30 PM

Subject: Re: clinic

I went to the clinic with extremely low energy and severe heart arrythmias. I

saw Dr. & she told me a few things, I did some dental work, Dr. A--- was

great. I haven't recovered since then or made any real progress, although

changing my water source seemed to help, and zapping seems to help overall I

guess. It's hard to say if anything else I've done has helped. So, I'm pretty

much SOL ;) at this point in time, although I'm still trying to work on a couple

more health improvement things. I wasn't expecting a miracle but it would have

been nice to have noticed something for having removed all 8 of my chewing

teeth, oh well, it had to be done anyway, I was highly allergic to the fillings

I had. Mainstream medical has been completely totally ridiculously insultingly

nonsensically insane and just plain useless, what a crazy world we live in. I

wish I could see Dr. on a one-appointment- at-a-time basis, but the last

time I checked they only

allowed multi-week multi-thousand- dollar visits. In my case, and for most of

the other patients as well, I really needed to just go for one appointment, then

do all my dental work and other things, and then at a later date go back for

follow-up appointments, rather than book in for the 2 week " program " but they

had no other option. I ended up staying another additional few weeks (no longer

in their program) so that I could finish up my dental work as it was stuff I

couldn't do in a short time frame. Staff and patients were friendly when I was

there. I was expecting more hand-holding and attention, but it's more of a

self-serve kind of atmosphere, and things that should have been provided were

not or were lacking, so basically, home was a much better place to work on

getting better, not there at the roach motel.

I don't know what happened to most of the people I met there, I know a couple of

people died, to my surprise, I don't know why I'm surprised - people get sick

and die, anyhoo, one person wasn't really feeling much better, and I guess the

others weren't so bad off symptom-wise in the first place so I assume they are

doing OK.

As for your unfriendly welcome, I am guessing they are generally guarded against

people that are not a patient or who they don't know, per obvious reasons. Maybe

the patients were a bit disoriented and confused and didn't know who you really

were, maybe they were even told to avoid you - who knows? It would be nice if

they had nice facilities including a community area where patients could hang

out with each other, and prospective patients & professionals/ researchers could

visit.

>

> Hi Pasta:

> Would you mind tell me what you were at the clinic for and what was your

experience there?

> I have never talked to anyone (that I know of) that has gone there for

treatment and

> healed their illness. Actually, i have never talked to anyone who has shared

any kind of

> experience at the clinic. I have gone to the clinic just to see it and meet

the people.

> I did not have a good reception. People did not want to talk to me. They seem

to be afraid

> that maybe I was going to harm them in some way. I really did not understand.

My intentions

> were good. To be honest I was disappointed. I was hoping to come back and tell

everyone.

> of the great things they were doing there, instead I came back really confused

because

> I truly believe that Dr. is extremely honest, knowledgeable and

dedicated to her work.

> Griselda was particularly suspicious and unfriendly. The only person who was

really

> nice was a nurse that works with Dr. . I wish I had her name to give her

credit.

> I don't remember it right now. I have it in my notes somewhere.

> Please someone explain this to me....

> thanks,

>

>

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Hi there - In Dr C book, on Angina she mentions that when the Dogworm dies, pain

will intensify in the heart.  I had someone who had a heart condition happen. 

The pain got serious when usingthe zapper.  it was just die-off in a big way.

From: <lindae321 (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: clinic

Dr@groups .com

Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 10:39 AM

Hi Pasta:

Thanks for responding. You are the only one who had a

comment to my post.

I have a question if you don't mind...

Did you have a specific list of symptoms when you got there besides the

Arrythmia?

Has your Arrythmia improved at all?

How did you change your water source?

How did this help you?

How did zapping actually help you?

After you removed your fillings, did you check yourself for heavymetals and did

your chelate?

Do you get the feeling that the clinic is mostly a research hospital?

have you had your thyroid checked?

Have you looked into vitamin and mineral deficiencies and Arrythmias?

Do you have any clue as to why you have this problem.... does it run in the

family?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: pastahaste <pastahaste@ . com>

Dr@groups .com

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:39:30 PM

Subject: Re: clinic

I went to the clinic with extremely low energy and severe heart arrythmias. I

saw Dr. & she told me a few things, I did some dental work, Dr. A--- was

great. I haven't recovered since then or made any real progress, although

changing my water source seemed to help, and zapping seems to help overall I

guess. It's hard to say if anything else I've done has helped. So, I'm pretty

much SOL ;) at this point in time, although I'm still trying to work on a couple

more health improvement things. I wasn't expecting a miracle but it would have

been nice to have noticed something for having removed all 8 of my chewing

teeth, oh well, it had to be done anyway, I was highly allergic to the fillings

I had. Mainstream medical has been completely totally ridiculously insultingly

nonsensically insane and just plain useless, what a crazy world we live in. I

wish I could see Dr. on a one-appointment- at-a-time basis, but the last

time I checked they only

allowed multi-week multi-thousand- dollar visits. In my case, and for most of

the other patients as well, I really needed to just go for one appointment, then

do all my dental work and other things, and then at a later date go back for

follow-up appointments, rather than book in for the 2 week " program " but they

had no other option. I ended up staying another additional few weeks (no longer

in their program) so that I could finish up my dental work as it was stuff I

couldn't do in a short time frame. Staff and patients were friendly when I was

there. I was expecting more hand-holding and attention, but it's more of a

self-serve kind of atmosphere, and things that should have been provided were

not or were lacking, so basically, home was a much better place to work on

getting better, not there at the roach motel.

I don't know what happened to most of the people I met there, I know a couple of

people died, to my surprise, I don't know why I'm surprised - people get sick

and die, anyhoo, one person wasn't really feeling much better, and I guess the

others weren't so bad off symptom-wise in the first place so I assume they are

doing OK.

As for your unfriendly welcome, I am guessing they are generally guarded against

people that are not a patient or who they don't know, per obvious reasons. Maybe

the patients were a bit disoriented and confused and didn't know who you really

were, maybe they were even told to avoid you - who knows? It would be nice if

they had nice facilities including a community area where patients could hang

out with each other, and prospective patients & professionals/ researchers could

visit.

>

> Hi Pasta:

> Would you mind tell me what you were at the clinic for and what was your

experience there?

> I have never talked to anyone (that I know of) that has gone there for

treatment and

> healed their illness. Actually, i have never talked to anyone who has shared

any kind of

> experience at the clinic. I have gone to the clinic just to see it and meet

the people.

> I did not have a good reception. People did not want to talk to me. They seem

to be afraid

> that maybe I was going to harm them in some way. I really did not understand.

My intentions

> were good. To be honest I was disappointed. I was hoping to come back and tell

everyone.

> of the great things they were doing there, instead I came back really confused

because

> I truly believe that Dr. is extremely honest, knowledgeable and

dedicated to her work.

> Griselda was particularly suspicious and unfriendly. The only person who was

really

> nice was a nurse that works with Dr. . I wish I had her name to give her

credit.

> I don't remember it right now. I have it in my notes somewhere.

> Please someone explain this to me....

> thanks,

>

>

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