Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Use a strep-free probiotic to avoid strep being a problem later, also must be GFCF. (we have used Custom Probiotic, Baby Biotic, Klaire's Detox) Avoid HFCS regardless if you use other forms of corn. Some believe it may raise mercury levels. IGE is current allergy or infection and IGG is immune response to past infection. I would be concerned of even IGG HHV6 and possibly treat with antivirals, but not while starting diet, etc. IGG to mold means past exposure. If you have not moved, consider that it is in your house or your child's school. You can read about mold in Ritchie Shoemaker's book, " Mold Warriors. " Low vitamin D may mean chronic infection. Caryn > > > > Ok....here we go.... > met with the dan today to go over test results: > > With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. > > Negative for strep. > > Metabolic profile: everything looks great. > > Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. > > Mitochondrial function: fine > > DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) > > > Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) > > Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. > > Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. > > He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. > > We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... > > Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) > > He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? > > Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? > > The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. > > Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? > > Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. > > Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post > > -Tammy > > P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Use a strep-free probiotic to avoid strep being a problem later, also must be GFCF. (we have used Custom Probiotic, Baby Biotic, Klaire's Detox) Avoid HFCS regardless if you use other forms of corn. Some believe it may raise mercury levels. IGE is current allergy or infection and IGG is immune response to past infection. I would be concerned of even IGG HHV6 and possibly treat with antivirals, but not while starting diet, etc. IGG to mold means past exposure. If you have not moved, consider that it is in your house or your child's school. You can read about mold in Ritchie Shoemaker's book, " Mold Warriors. " Low vitamin D may mean chronic infection. Caryn > > > > Ok....here we go.... > met with the dan today to go over test results: > > With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. > > Negative for strep. > > Metabolic profile: everything looks great. > > Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. > > Mitochondrial function: fine > > DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) > > > Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) > > Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. > > Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. > > He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. > > We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... > > Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) > > He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? > > Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? > > The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. > > Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? > > Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. > > Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post > > -Tammy > > P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Caryn, thank you : ) My son's doctor also agreed to leave the hhv6 alone for now while starting the diet....which I feel more than comfortable with. Is it possible that could be the cause of the low D? My son gets oodles of sun exposure in the summer and we supplement over the winter (I had taken a break to see what his tests would yield w/o supps). Here's a kick in the bootie: his enzymes contain aspergillus niger. figures. lol. That's an easy enough fix. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 8:18:41 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions Use a strep-free probiotic to avoid strep being a problem later, also must be GFCF. (we have used Custom Probiotic, Baby Biotic, Klaire's Detox)Avoid HFCS regardless if you use other forms of corn. Some believe it may raise mercury levels.IGE is current allergy or infection and IGG is immune response to past infection. I would be concerned of even IGG HHV6 and possibly treat with antivirals, but not while starting diet, etc.IGG to mold means past exposure. If you have not moved, consider that it is in your house or your child's school. You can read about mold in Ritchie Shoemaker's book, "Mold Warriors."Low vitamin D may mean chronic infection.Caryn>> > > Ok....here we go....> met with the dan today to go over test results:> > With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.> > Negative for strep.> > Metabolic profile: everything looks great.> > Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.> > Mitochondrial function: fine> > DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)> > > Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect)> > Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first.> > Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.> > He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. > > We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... > > Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine)> > He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??> > Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time?> > The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. > > Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? > > Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.> > Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post> > -Tammy> > P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Caryn, thank you : ) My son's doctor also agreed to leave the hhv6 alone for now while starting the diet....which I feel more than comfortable with. Is it possible that could be the cause of the low D? My son gets oodles of sun exposure in the summer and we supplement over the winter (I had taken a break to see what his tests would yield w/o supps). Here's a kick in the bootie: his enzymes contain aspergillus niger. figures. lol. That's an easy enough fix. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 8:18:41 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions Use a strep-free probiotic to avoid strep being a problem later, also must be GFCF. (we have used Custom Probiotic, Baby Biotic, Klaire's Detox)Avoid HFCS regardless if you use other forms of corn. Some believe it may raise mercury levels.IGE is current allergy or infection and IGG is immune response to past infection. I would be concerned of even IGG HHV6 and possibly treat with antivirals, but not while starting diet, etc.IGG to mold means past exposure. If you have not moved, consider that it is in your house or your child's school. You can read about mold in Ritchie Shoemaker's book, "Mold Warriors."Low vitamin D may mean chronic infection.Caryn>> > > Ok....here we go....> met with the dan today to go over test results:> > With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.> > Negative for strep.> > Metabolic profile: everything looks great.> > Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.> > Mitochondrial function: fine> > DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)> > > Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect)> > Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first.> > Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.> > He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. > > We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... > > Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine)> > He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??> > Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time?> > The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. > > Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? > > Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.> > Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post> > -Tammy> > P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called " yoghurt " in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show " current " flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article: " Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs and increased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens. " SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-) OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is " borderline hypo. " He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! Â Ok....here we go.... met with the dan today to go over test results: With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. Negative for strep. Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. Mitochondrial function: fine DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post -Tammy P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called " yoghurt " in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show " current " flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article: " Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs and increased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens. " SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-) OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is " borderline hypo. " He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! Â Ok....here we go.... met with the dan today to go over test results: With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. Negative for strep. Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. Mitochondrial function: fine DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post -Tammy P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Interesting.There is Organic Soy milk which says that is always Non GMO - how trustworthy is the claim? Has anyone looked into it - I don't know if GMO label is regulated by the FDA like organic.Thanks,KayTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 7:48:51 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs and increased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-) OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! Ok....here we go.... met with the dan today to go over test results: With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. Negative for strep. Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. Mitochondrial function: fine DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post -Tammy P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 If something is certified organic, it cannot be GMO. (I think the FDA allows varying percentages here) If it is organic and it was alive, it cannot have been fed GMO food. Again, there is an asterisk in there and I am not sure of all the fine print. However if they are saying they are non-GMO *but* are not certified organic, there is a reason... it could be that adjacent farms ARE GMO and therefore it is blocking their ability to get certified. If there is an organic vs " non-GMO " choice, I choose organic. If my choices are non-GMO and traditional, I choose non-GMO. Canola Oil is another very GMO'd product, so if something has canola in it, try to look for the " non-GMO " claim.  Interesting.There is Organic Soy milk which says that is always Non GMO - how trustworthy is the claim? Has anyone looked into it - I don't know if GMO label is regulated by the FDA like organic. Thanks,Kay To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 7:48:51 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions  Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called " yoghurt " in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show " current " flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article: " Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs and increased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens. " SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-) OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is " borderline hypo. " He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been!  Ok....here we go.... met with the dan today to go over test results: With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. Negative for strep. Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. Mitochondrial function: fine DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post -Tammy P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Ok....does this make sense? Keep in mind I know nothing about these tests. Cow's Milk: IgE: II IgG: III *Yogurt: Negative to both *Casein: Negative to both Also,Does baker's yeast have anything at all to do with Gluten? And, are there "forms" of yogurt available (w/o the strep) not labeled as "yogurt"? Toni, interesting that you have two kids on completely opposite sides of thyroid issues. what do they do about Hashimoto? I wonder if we're somehow related...lol. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:48:51 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd!I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare.OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn.Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas.Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food.Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about.You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease.(Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them.Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great.Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect)Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first.Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine)He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time?The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Ok....does this make sense? Keep in mind I know nothing about these tests. Cow's Milk: IgE: II IgG: III *Yogurt: Negative to both *Casein: Negative to both Also,Does baker's yeast have anything at all to do with Gluten? And, are there "forms" of yogurt available (w/o the strep) not labeled as "yogurt"? Toni, interesting that you have two kids on completely opposite sides of thyroid issues. what do they do about Hashimoto? I wonder if we're somehow related...lol. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:48:51 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd!I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare.OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn.Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas.Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food.Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about.You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease.(Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them.Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great.Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect)Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first.Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine)He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time?The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Ok....does this make sense? Keep in mind I know nothing about these tests. Cow's Milk: IgE: II IgG: III *Yogurt: Negative to both *Casein: Negative to both Also,Does baker's yeast have anything at all to do with Gluten? And, are there "forms" of yogurt available (w/o the strep) not labeled as "yogurt"? Toni, interesting that you have two kids on completely opposite sides of thyroid issues. what do they do about Hashimoto? I wonder if we're somehow related...lol. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:48:51 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd!I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare.OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn.Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas.Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food.Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about.You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease.(Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them.Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great.Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect)Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first.Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine)He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time?The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Well, one kid looks possibly hypothyroid, one looks normal (she is tall, thin, and hairy!)... but the one that looks normal is the one with thyroid antibodies. So I think that means her thyroid levels can fluctuate as the antibodies do. For hashimoto's, they usually give thyroid medicine. We will likely end up giving thyroid meds in addition to the LDN. The low dose naltrexone is supposed to modulate the immune system, so hoping her body wakes up and decides maybe to stop trying to hurt itself?!!! I would look into goat's milk, given the info below. We use Meyenburg ( I think that's right) very seldomly. I mean, maybe once every two weeks. My son likes cheese though so we do allow raw goat's milk hard cheese (hard cheese is supposed to be lower in casein, and goat's milk proteins are supposed to be easier to digest, AND it's raw so it still has " the good stuff " in it.) You can make your own yogurt with started culture that doesn't have strep. Even Kefir seems to have it. There used to be such a thing as acidophilus milk but I havent seen it for ages.  Ok....does this make sense? Keep in mind I know nothing about these tests.  Cow's Milk:  IgE: II     IgG: III     *Yogurt:     Negative to both      *Casein:     Negative to both  Also,Does baker's yeast have anything at all to do with Gluten? And, are there " forms " of yogurt available (w/o the strep) not labeled as " yogurt " ?  Toni, interesting that you have two kids on completely opposite sides of thyroid issues. what do they do about Hashimoto?   I wonder if we're somehow related...lol. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:48:51 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions  Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called " yoghurt " in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show " current " flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article: " Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens. " SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is " borderline hypo. " He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been!  Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Well, one kid looks possibly hypothyroid, one looks normal (she is tall, thin, and hairy!)... but the one that looks normal is the one with thyroid antibodies. So I think that means her thyroid levels can fluctuate as the antibodies do. For hashimoto's, they usually give thyroid medicine. We will likely end up giving thyroid meds in addition to the LDN. The low dose naltrexone is supposed to modulate the immune system, so hoping her body wakes up and decides maybe to stop trying to hurt itself?!!! I would look into goat's milk, given the info below. We use Meyenburg ( I think that's right) very seldomly. I mean, maybe once every two weeks. My son likes cheese though so we do allow raw goat's milk hard cheese (hard cheese is supposed to be lower in casein, and goat's milk proteins are supposed to be easier to digest, AND it's raw so it still has " the good stuff " in it.) You can make your own yogurt with started culture that doesn't have strep. Even Kefir seems to have it. There used to be such a thing as acidophilus milk but I havent seen it for ages.  Ok....does this make sense? Keep in mind I know nothing about these tests.  Cow's Milk:  IgE: II     IgG: III     *Yogurt:     Negative to both      *Casein:     Negative to both  Also,Does baker's yeast have anything at all to do with Gluten? And, are there " forms " of yogurt available (w/o the strep) not labeled as " yogurt " ?  Toni, interesting that you have two kids on completely opposite sides of thyroid issues. what do they do about Hashimoto?   I wonder if we're somehow related...lol. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:48:51 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions  Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called " yoghurt " in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show " current " flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article: " Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens. " SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is " borderline hypo. " He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been!  Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Well, one kid looks possibly hypothyroid, one looks normal (she is tall, thin, and hairy!)... but the one that looks normal is the one with thyroid antibodies. So I think that means her thyroid levels can fluctuate as the antibodies do. For hashimoto's, they usually give thyroid medicine. We will likely end up giving thyroid meds in addition to the LDN. The low dose naltrexone is supposed to modulate the immune system, so hoping her body wakes up and decides maybe to stop trying to hurt itself?!!! I would look into goat's milk, given the info below. We use Meyenburg ( I think that's right) very seldomly. I mean, maybe once every two weeks. My son likes cheese though so we do allow raw goat's milk hard cheese (hard cheese is supposed to be lower in casein, and goat's milk proteins are supposed to be easier to digest, AND it's raw so it still has " the good stuff " in it.) You can make your own yogurt with started culture that doesn't have strep. Even Kefir seems to have it. There used to be such a thing as acidophilus milk but I havent seen it for ages.  Ok....does this make sense? Keep in mind I know nothing about these tests.  Cow's Milk:  IgE: II     IgG: III     *Yogurt:     Negative to both      *Casein:     Negative to both  Also,Does baker's yeast have anything at all to do with Gluten? And, are there " forms " of yogurt available (w/o the strep) not labeled as " yogurt " ?  Toni, interesting that you have two kids on completely opposite sides of thyroid issues. what do they do about Hashimoto?   I wonder if we're somehow related...lol. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:48:51 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions  Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called " yoghurt " in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show " current " flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article: " Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens. " SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is " borderline hypo. " He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been!  Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 please remove my email address from your group as my is is constantly blocked. did not know such activity Re: Bombardment of questions  Tammy, You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called " yoghurt " in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show " current " flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now. Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdf This paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article: " Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showed evidence of an immune response after two weeks, with the response increasing at four weeks. The reaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs and increased serum antibody levels. After eating the GM peas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primed the mice to react to other food antigens. " SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!! I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-) OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is " borderline hypo. " He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/) Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:57 AM, t.lynn28@... & lt;t.lynn28@... & gt; wrote:  Ok....here we go.... met with the dan today to go over test results: With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. Negative for strep. Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. Mitochondrial function: fine DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post -Tammy P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni ------ Mind like a steel trap... Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni ------ Mind like a steel trap... Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 please remove my email address from your group as my is is constantly blocked. did not know such activity Re: Bombardment of questions  Tammy, You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called " yoghurt " in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show " current " flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now. Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdf This paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article: " Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showed evidence of an immune response after two weeks, with the response increasing at four weeks. The reaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs and increased serum antibody levels. After eating the GM peas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primed the mice to react to other food antigens. " SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!! I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-) OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is " borderline hypo. " He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/) Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:57 AM, t.lynn28@... & lt;t.lynn28@... & gt; wrote:  Ok....here we go.... met with the dan today to go over test results: With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. Negative for strep. Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. Mitochondrial function: fine DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post -Tammy P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni ------ Mind like a steel trap... Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni ------ Mind like a steel trap... Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 please remove my email address from your group as my is is constantly blocked. did not know such activity Re: Bombardment of questions  Tammy, You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called " yoghurt " in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show " current " flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now. Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdf This paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article: " Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showed evidence of an immune response after two weeks, with the response increasing at four weeks. The reaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs and increased serum antibody levels. After eating the GM peas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primed the mice to react to other food antigens. " SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!! I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-) OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is " borderline hypo. " He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/) Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:57 AM, t.lynn28@... & lt;t.lynn28@... & gt; wrote:  Ok....here we go.... met with the dan today to go over test results: With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. Negative for strep. Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. Mitochondrial function: fine DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post -Tammy P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni ------ Mind like a steel trap... Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni ------ Mind like a steel trap... Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 All the way down the bottom of this page on the right hand side (in very small lettering), you will see the word "unsubscribe". Click it and you will be all set : ) To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 4:01:48 PMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions please remove my email address from your group as my is is constantly blocked. did not know such activity Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd!I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus.My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare.OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn.Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas.Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food.Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about.You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease.(Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them.Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been!On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:57 AM, t.lynn28@... & lt;t.lynn28@... & gt; wrote: Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great.Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect)Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first.Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed.We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight....Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine)He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time?The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn.Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic?Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!!--Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.--Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 All the way down the bottom of this page on the right hand side (in very small lettering), you will see the word "unsubscribe". Click it and you will be all set : ) To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 4:01:48 PMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions please remove my email address from your group as my is is constantly blocked. did not know such activity Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd!I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus.My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare.OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn.Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas.Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food.Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about.You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease.(Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them.Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been!On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:57 AM, t.lynn28@... & lt;t.lynn28@... & gt; wrote: Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great.Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect)Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first.Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed.We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight....Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine)He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time?The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn.Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic?Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!!--Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.--Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 All the way down the bottom of this page on the right hand side (in very small lettering), you will see the word "unsubscribe". Click it and you will be all set : ) To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 4:01:48 PMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions please remove my email address from your group as my is is constantly blocked. did not know such activity Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd!I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus.My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare.OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn.Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas.Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food.Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about.You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease.(Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them.Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been!On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:57 AM, t.lynn28@... & lt;t.lynn28@... & gt; wrote: Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great.Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect)Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first.Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed.We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight....Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine)He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time?The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn.Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic?Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!!--Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.--Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Thanks ToniIt says certified organic by Quality Assurance International & USDA Organic so I suppose it is certified organic.Thanks, To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 8:53:23 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions If something is certified organic, it cannot be GMO. (I think the FDA allows varying percentages here) If it is organic and it was alive, it cannot have been fed GMO food. Again, there is an asterisk in there and I am not sure of all the fine print. However if they are saying they are non-GMO *but* are not certified organic, there is a reason... it could be that adjacent farms ARE GMO and therefore it is blocking their ability to get certified. If there is an organic vs "non-GMO" choice, I choose organic. If my choices are non-GMO and traditional, I choose non-GMO. Canola Oil is another very GMO'd product, so if something has canola in it, try to look for the "non-GMO" claim. Interesting.There is Organic Soy milk which says that is always Non GMO - how trustworthy is the claim? Has anyone looked into it - I don't know if GMO label is regulated by the FDA like organic. Thanks,Kay To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 7:48:51 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs and increased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-) OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! Ok....here we go.... met with the dan today to go over test results: With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. Negative for strep. Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. Mitochondrial function: fine DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post -Tammy P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Thanks ToniIt says certified organic by Quality Assurance International & USDA Organic so I suppose it is certified organic.Thanks, To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 8:53:23 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions If something is certified organic, it cannot be GMO. (I think the FDA allows varying percentages here) If it is organic and it was alive, it cannot have been fed GMO food. Again, there is an asterisk in there and I am not sure of all the fine print. However if they are saying they are non-GMO *but* are not certified organic, there is a reason... it could be that adjacent farms ARE GMO and therefore it is blocking their ability to get certified. If there is an organic vs "non-GMO" choice, I choose organic. If my choices are non-GMO and traditional, I choose non-GMO. Canola Oil is another very GMO'd product, so if something has canola in it, try to look for the "non-GMO" claim. Interesting.There is Organic Soy milk which says that is always Non GMO - how trustworthy is the claim? Has anyone looked into it - I don't know if GMO label is regulated by the FDA like organic. Thanks,Kay To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 7:48:51 AMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy,You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd! I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare. OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn. Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas. Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food. Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs and increased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about. You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-) OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease. (Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them. Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! Ok....here we go.... met with the dan today to go over test results: With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order. Negative for strep. Metabolic profile: everything looks great. Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful. Mitochondrial function: fine DHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf) Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect) Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first. Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b. He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine) He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different?? Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time? The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything. Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post -Tammy P.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Please don't get aggravated with me, but the more I read, the more confused I become...I'm trying to decipher the thyroid test results, but the reference ranges change from site to site. Here are Tom's results: Reference Free T3 402 230-420pg/dl Free T4 1.34 1.09-1.86ng/dl TSH 3.37 .60-5.40uIU/ml Everything came back within reference with Free T3 on the higher side of the range. The doctor told me Tom was borderline hypothyroid and reeled off typical symptoms which does not sound like my son at all. So we agreed to just keep an eye on it for the time being. But now that I'm looking into this - does a number on the higher end indicate low thyroid function??? To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 2:24:28 PMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions Well, one kid looks possibly hypothyroid, one looks normal (she is tall, thin, and hairy!)... but the one that looks normal is the one with thyroid antibodies. So I think that means her thyroid levels can fluctuate as the antibodies do. For hashimoto's, they usually give thyroid medicine. We will likely end up giving thyroid meds in addition to the LDN. The low dose naltrexone is supposed to modulate the immune system, so hoping her body wakes up and decides maybe to stop trying to hurt itself?!!! I would look into goat's milk, given the info below. We use Meyenburg ( I think that's right) very seldomly. I mean, maybe once every two weeks. My son likes cheese though so we do allow raw goat's milk hard cheese (hard cheese is supposed to be lower in casein, and goat's milk proteins are supposed to be easier to digest, AND it's raw so it still has "the good stuff" in it.)You can make your own yogurt with started culture that doesn't have strep. Even Kefir seems to have it. There used to be such a thing as acidophilus milk but I havent seen it for ages. Ok....does this make sense? Keep in mind I know nothing about these tests. Cow's Milk: IgE: II IgG: III *Yogurt: Negative to both *Casein: Negative to both Also,Does baker's yeast have anything at all to do with Gluten? And, are there "forms" of yogurt available (w/o the strep) not labeled as "yogurt"? Toni, interesting that you have two kids on completely opposite sides of thyroid issues. what do they do about Hashimoto? I wonder if we're somehow related...lol. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:48:51 AM Subject: Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy, You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd!I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare.OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn.Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas.Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food.Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about.You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease.(Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them.Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great.Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect)Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first.Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine)He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time?The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. 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Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Please don't get aggravated with me, but the more I read, the more confused I become...I'm trying to decipher the thyroid test results, but the reference ranges change from site to site. Here are Tom's results: Reference Free T3 402 230-420pg/dl Free T4 1.34 1.09-1.86ng/dl TSH 3.37 .60-5.40uIU/ml Everything came back within reference with Free T3 on the higher side of the range. The doctor told me Tom was borderline hypothyroid and reeled off typical symptoms which does not sound like my son at all. So we agreed to just keep an eye on it for the time being. But now that I'm looking into this - does a number on the higher end indicate low thyroid function??? To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 2:24:28 PMSubject: Re: Bombardment of questions Well, one kid looks possibly hypothyroid, one looks normal (she is tall, thin, and hairy!)... but the one that looks normal is the one with thyroid antibodies. So I think that means her thyroid levels can fluctuate as the antibodies do. For hashimoto's, they usually give thyroid medicine. We will likely end up giving thyroid meds in addition to the LDN. The low dose naltrexone is supposed to modulate the immune system, so hoping her body wakes up and decides maybe to stop trying to hurt itself?!!! I would look into goat's milk, given the info below. We use Meyenburg ( I think that's right) very seldomly. I mean, maybe once every two weeks. My son likes cheese though so we do allow raw goat's milk hard cheese (hard cheese is supposed to be lower in casein, and goat's milk proteins are supposed to be easier to digest, AND it's raw so it still has "the good stuff" in it.)You can make your own yogurt with started culture that doesn't have strep. Even Kefir seems to have it. There used to be such a thing as acidophilus milk but I havent seen it for ages. Ok....does this make sense? Keep in mind I know nothing about these tests. Cow's Milk: IgE: II IgG: III *Yogurt: Negative to both *Casein: Negative to both Also,Does baker's yeast have anything at all to do with Gluten? And, are there "forms" of yogurt available (w/o the strep) not labeled as "yogurt"? Toni, interesting that you have two kids on completely opposite sides of thyroid issues. what do they do about Hashimoto? I wonder if we're somehow related...lol. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:48:51 AM Subject: Re: Bombardment of questions Tammy, You can test neg for strep and still have PANDAS. It is real hard to test for. Basically, if you are 100% convinced your kid has it, it is probably a good idea to try antibx and see if they respond. Well, that is just my opinion, not based on anything other than me reading about people spending a yr or longer just trying to get dx'd!I would avoid strep strains in the probiotic. Yogurts always have strep in it, apparently if you are to be called "yoghurt" in the USA, you MUST have Strept Thermophilus. My kids show positive for HHV-6 on IGG, normal on the other one the doc recommended we test to show "current" flare.OoO is causing a little response in your son. So maybe you can try another antimicrobial for now.Corn - we also do not show corn IGG *but* I would not let down your guard. I will tell you what I do. I buy frozen organic corn. I buy organic chips. If they are at a party and there are a choice of foods, I will allow Fritos plain and Cracker Jacks. Those are Feingold Stage 1 approved corn snacks that are GFCF. There is soy in the cracker jacks. They are most likely made with GMO corn and HFCS is certainly contaminated with GMO corn.Now I used to not concern myself with GMO issues until I read this: http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pjtp.pdfThis paper was put out by a company developing a GMO product who decided that they would cease development due to allergic reactions to their GMO Field Peas.Soy and Corn were never put thru these GMO trials here in the USA from what I understand!!! So it is all together possible that the reason for the rise in these allergens in people is due to the fact that GMO soy and GMO corn are in nearly every processed food.Important quote from the article:"Mice fed alpha-amylase inhibitor GM-peas showedevidence of an immune response after two weeks,with the response increasing at four weeks. Thereaction in mice was inflammation in the lungs andincreased serum antibody levels. After eating the GMpeas, the pea alpha-amylase inhibitor protein primedthe mice to react to other food antigens."SOOOOO I would continue to be diligent on day-to-day banishment of HFCS so that occasionally when you are in a bind, you can allow it. For instance, when we go to a restaurant, we can allow 7up or Sprite, because those are FG ST1 approved as well. BTW Sierra Mist Natural is available in some places and while I don't know if that is FG ST1 approved (because natural flavors can sometimes be not approved) it is colorless and without HFCS, so that is always an option to ask about.You really do not want to overdo the corn or play with fire on that one because of all the allergens, that one seems to be the hardest to avoid, with soy a close second!!I have to remark about your DAN.... my DAN said the same thing about my son - that his blood work was probably the best he has seen in someone with these issues! LOL Do we have a pair of enigmas or what?!!! Twins separated by a year and hundreds of miles ;-)OH! BTW, my son has parahypothyroid too... which is "borderline hypo." He is just a little low on tone. And he grows slower than his sister... so I thought Hmm maybe this kid has thyroid issues... and I had put both of them on selenium. NOW out of the regular course of testing, my DAN had my daughter's thyroid antibodies tested and she came up high on the TPO ab. This mean Hashimotos or some other auto-immune disease.(Recommended thyroid labs - http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/)Because of this, AND the HHV-6 ab, we are using LDN on them.Tammy, let me end this email by saying, so far, the LDN has been incredible. Amazing. I want to tell the world about it, and I have been! Ok....here we go....met with the dan today to go over test results:With the exception of low vitamin d, all vites and minerals seem to be in good order.Negative for strep.Metabolic profile: everything looks great.Neurotransmitter metabolites:right smack dab in the middle of ref. range. beautiful.Mitochondrial function: fineDHPPA (anyone have a clue???): slightly elevated. (recommended 5-mthf)Test shows antibodies to exposure to hhv-6. Doc said that indicates past exposure but not necessarily currently active (or something to that affect)Test also shows borderline low thyroid function. (significant family history - both sides). Because he doesn't present with symptoms, we've agreed to keep an eye on it for now and tackle other things first.Very low in good flora. (He did a round of antibiotics a few months ago so that might make sense) Yeast turned up negative(thank God) and bad flora has not taken over. So we'll get back on the probiotics and start sach b.He did test positive for gluten and casein sensitivities (surprise surprise) --thank God I've spent some serious time learning all about the diet or I'd be completely overwhelmed. We talked about so much today that I'm having a hard time keeping everything straight.... Is IgG the immediate response to foods? and IgE shows later responses? Why would Aspergillus niger show up Negative on the IgE but show up as a 2 on the IgG? Isn't aspergillus black mold and wouldn't everybody have a sensitivity to it???? I quickly read something that said it's used in some medicines. what??? (All other molds turned out fine)He showed a 2 for oregano. That probably means no OoO? Or are those two completely different??Corn was fine...does that mean I don't have to be so paranoid about high fructose corn syrup all the damn time?The doctor told me these were actually the best test results he's ever seen for a kid on the spectrum. which is awesome. However, I chose not to do the metals testing because it freaks me out. I don't want to be shaking anything up and stirring things around when all is well. Now I'm wondering if this could be the culprit and if it's a stone I need to turn. Also, because we are going gluten/dairy free....I'm almost positive I've read that I need to be careful choosing a probiotic. What strains do I need to avoid? And because strep tested negative, is it ok to have strep strains in the probiotic? Feel free to throw any thoughts, opinions, experiences or ideas out there. I'm game for anything.Thanks...so sorry looooooooooong post-TammyP.S. I love love love my dan.... Maybe another time we can talk about the husband's pissy-ass attitude towards him after months of doing nothing to learn ANYthing about this stuff. rrrrr!!! -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. 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