RE: New to this - 3 quick questions

[Guest guest]

> Hello! This group is so helpful!

> My first question: If my son doesn't like fruit, could it be a

> phenol problem?

> Second question: Do most ASD kids avoid the legal cheeses, butter,

> etc., due to casein?

> Third question: How many servings are prepared by following the

> recipes in BTVC?

>

> Thanks for any help!

>

> Debbie, mom of Mark, 7yo, ASD, and Oliver, 23 mos.

Debbie,

" Casein " is a real buzzword. people formerly on other diets have been cautioned

against it for those who have strong reactions. Elaine has said these two things

and i paraphrase;

" No one should use a food they have a strong reaction to. "

" Some people get a little " wonky " reaction to dairy that is not over the top

and find it can often be tolerated.'

When the immune system is challenged by illness or something else it perceives

danger and sometimes gives a hostile reaction to something that is not harmful.

Goat dairy, especially home made properly incubated yogurt has been linked with

postive behavioral and cognitive improvements. We advise it not be introduced

for weeks after the " intro Diet' and then in tiny amounts, increasing ever so

gradually to monitor a child's tolerance.

I found that many foods I thought I was allergic to agreed with me most of the

time after a short time on SCD.

A wise tag to attach to dietary challenges is YMMV (Your mileage may vary).

Carol F.

SCD 3 yrs, Celiac

[Guest guest]

> Hello! This group is so helpful!

> My first question: If my son doesn't like fruit, could it be a

> phenol problem?

> Second question: Do most ASD kids avoid the legal cheeses, butter,

> etc., due to casein?

> Third question: How many servings are prepared by following the

> recipes in BTVC?

>

> Thanks for any help!

>

> Debbie, mom of Mark, 7yo, ASD, and Oliver, 23 mos.

Debbie,

" Casein " is a real buzzword. people formerly on other diets have been cautioned

against it for those who have strong reactions. Elaine has said these two things

and i paraphrase;

" No one should use a food they have a strong reaction to. "

" Some people get a little " wonky " reaction to dairy that is not over the top

and find it can often be tolerated.'

When the immune system is challenged by illness or something else it perceives

danger and sometimes gives a hostile reaction to something that is not harmful.

Goat dairy, especially home made properly incubated yogurt has been linked with

postive behavioral and cognitive improvements. We advise it not be introduced

for weeks after the " intro Diet' and then in tiny amounts, increasing ever so

gradually to monitor a child's tolerance.

I found that many foods I thought I was allergic to agreed with me most of the

time after a short time on SCD.

A wise tag to attach to dietary challenges is YMMV (Your mileage may vary).

Carol F.

SCD 3 yrs, Celiac

[Guest guest]

> Hello! This group is so helpful!

> My first question: If my son doesn't like fruit, could it be a

> phenol problem?

> Second question: Do most ASD kids avoid the legal cheeses, butter,

> etc., due to casein?

> Third question: How many servings are prepared by following the

> recipes in BTVC?

>

> Thanks for any help!

>

> Debbie, mom of Mark, 7yo, ASD, and Oliver, 23 mos.

Debbie,

" Casein " is a real buzzword. people formerly on other diets have been cautioned

against it for those who have strong reactions. Elaine has said these two things

and i paraphrase;

" No one should use a food they have a strong reaction to. "

" Some people get a little " wonky " reaction to dairy that is not over the top

and find it can often be tolerated.'

When the immune system is challenged by illness or something else it perceives

danger and sometimes gives a hostile reaction to something that is not harmful.

Goat dairy, especially home made properly incubated yogurt has been linked with

postive behavioral and cognitive improvements. We advise it not be introduced

for weeks after the " intro Diet' and then in tiny amounts, increasing ever so

gradually to monitor a child's tolerance.

I found that many foods I thought I was allergic to agreed with me most of the

time after a short time on SCD.

A wise tag to attach to dietary challenges is YMMV (Your mileage may vary).

Carol F.

SCD 3 yrs, Celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

>first question: If my son doesn't like fruit, could it be a >phenol

>problem?

Phenol reactions include red ears, irritability, sleeplessness. (Any other

common reactions parents?). If he doesn't tolerate fruit hemay become

constipated or have loose stools. The good news is that many find that

after some healing they are better able to tolerate a wider variety of foods

including fruits. At the beginning of the diet we recommend that all fruits

and vegetables are peeled, deseeded (as appropriate) and cooked. The raw,

unpeeled fruits and veggies are more difficult to digest and cooking them

allows the body to " milk " out more of the nutrients.

>Second question: Do most ASD kids avoid the legal cheeses, butter, >etc.,

>due to casein?

A large proportion of the ASD kids do avoid legal cheese, butter yogurt. A

number of parents wait until their children are on the diet a while and then

introduce and some use dairy right from the beginning. Estimating the

numbers, from those who post to the list fairly regularly, I'd guess 60-75%

are dairy free and 25-40% are using dairy.

>Third question: How many servings are prepared by following the >recipes

in BTVC? >

That depends on the recipe and the portion sizes. I don't believe there are

set serving sizes.

Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 39 mos SCD

mom of SCD 24 mos

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[Guest guest]

Questions 1: With phenols it is the opposite. Kids with phenol

problems get " high " off of the fruit therefore they crave it and

obsess over it. My son's most common reaction to phenols is

uncontrollable laughter, not feeling pain, lack of sleep and diaper

rash.

Question 2: One of my sons is celiac and has never had a problem

with dairy. My other son is both celiac and autistic. For 2 years

he was off dairy though I never really knew if he needed to be. When

switching to SCD, I gave him the legal dairy with no reaction. After

a while on SCD he one time ate commercial yogurt (illegal dairy) and

had a reaction similar to what I mentioned for phenols. For him I

suspect his problem was the lactose but I can't be sure. He has been

eating SCD legal dairy (from cow's milk) for 6 months now with no

problem. I do not believe this is common with other ASD kids though.

> Hello! This group is so helpful!

> My first question: If my son doesn't like fruit, could it be a

> phenol problem?

> Second question: Do most ASD kids avoid the legal cheeses, butter,

> etc., due to casein?

> Third question: How many servings are prepared by following the

> recipes in BTVC?

>

> Thanks for any help!

>

> Debbie, mom of Mark, 7yo, ASD, and Oliver, 23 mos.