Guest guest Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Again, I believe what the original person was asking was if you have taken your child in and verified he has a medical condition (ADHD, Autism, Allergies, etc) and afterward started The Healing Code and feel that was the cause of significant improvement, this person would like to hear about those type of results. It is not anywhere near asking a plumber to fix your car because he wouldn't know the first thing about fixing your car... it is a request for results through testing, not a confirmation by a doctor that this Code worked or didn't work. Why are some people on here so defensive? It makes it very difficult to want to contribute or read when people respond by attacking or making fun of people that are asking for clarification other than " I said so... " What is wrong with asking for clarification or results through testing? > > > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a " doctor " to confirm anything that was not > > drilled into their heads in med school. That could be compared to the likeness > > of asking your plumber to check the brakes on your car. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Buenanina <goodchildsinc@> > > To: mb12 valtrex > > Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 10:33:26 AM > > Subject: Re: Healing Code biomedical > > > >  > > Not meaning to take a side one way or another, Guy was saying he wanted to see a > > confirmation of a doctor's agreement that their was an improvement in a child's > > condition, something substantiated by science through testing. He was not > > criticizing anyone who did these Codes, only questioning signficiant results > > that were not verified by a doctor. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Again, I believe what the original person was asking was if you have taken your child in and verified he has a medical condition (ADHD, Autism, Allergies, etc) and afterward started The Healing Code and feel that was the cause of significant improvement, this person would like to hear about those type of results. It is not anywhere near asking a plumber to fix your car because he wouldn't know the first thing about fixing your car... it is a request for results through testing, not a confirmation by a doctor that this Code worked or didn't work. Why are some people on here so defensive? It makes it very difficult to want to contribute or read when people respond by attacking or making fun of people that are asking for clarification other than " I said so... " What is wrong with asking for clarification or results through testing? > > > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a " doctor " to confirm anything that was not > > drilled into their heads in med school. That could be compared to the likeness > > of asking your plumber to check the brakes on your car. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Buenanina <goodchildsinc@> > > To: mb12 valtrex > > Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 10:33:26 AM > > Subject: Re: Healing Code biomedical > > > >  > > Not meaning to take a side one way or another, Guy was saying he wanted to see a > > confirmation of a doctor's agreement that their was an improvement in a child's > > condition, something substantiated by science through testing. He was not > > criticizing anyone who did these Codes, only questioning signficiant results > > that were not verified by a doctor. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 You know, on line writing can leave something to be less than desirable. I know, my own family takes my emails the wrong way too, and they have known me for years!! If I offended you - I apologize. It certainly wasn't my intent. I wasn't really being defensive, my gist was " hey, try it out for yourself, rather than wait for someone to tell you it works, as you have nothing to lose. " Really, nothing more or less. I'm a pretty easy going person, and it really takes a lot to offend me, I forget sometimes that people can be sensitive..again, I am sorry. I know for me - it's really hard to be 'scientific' during this whole healing thing for my son and brother...what I thought was juicing, or even CLO was really a combination of things...as I read back thru my notes, I can see what things were working or took time to work. And while I am so thankful, because I did what other parents did, and my kid is speaking at his level now -- I know that if I had listened to the Dr's (at the time I was seeing) I would be NO WHERE today. My brother who spent the last 11 years rocking in a closet to self soothe, got his own job...I mean, if I waited for the gold star from the medical community or even the scientific community, I would have wasted my life and my son's (and the rest of my brothers.) And I have wanted to share this excerpt from this book I am reading...and it's such a great excerpt (IMHO) - because it says exactly what I 'felt' but couldn't put into words.. A World Without Cancer, The Story of Vitamin B17, By G Chapter 3, An Apple A Day, pg 55-56 " The story behind pernicious anemia is almost exactly the same. The reason that these diseases were so reluctantly accepted as vitamin deficiencies is because men tend to look for positive cause-and-effect relationships in which something causes something else. They find it more difficult to comprehend the negative relationship in which nothing or the lack of something can cause an effect. But perhaps of even more importance is the reality of intellectual pride. A man who has spent his life acquiring scientific knowledge far beyond the grasp of his fellow human beings is not usually inclined to listen with patience to someone who lacks that knowledge—especially if that person suggests that the solution to the scientist's most puzzling medical problem is to be found in a simple back-woods or near-primitive concoction of herbs and foods. The scientist is trained to search for complex answers and tends to look with smug amusement upon solutions that are not dependent upon his hard-earned skills. To bring this a little closer to home, the average M.D. today has spent over ten years of intensive training to learn about health and disease. This educational process continues for as long as he practices his art. The greatest challenge to the medical profession today is cancer. If the solution to the cancer puzzle were to be found in the simple foods we eat (or don't eat), then what other diseases might also be traced to this cause? The implications are explosive. As one doctor put it so aptly, " Most of my medical training has been wasted. I've learned the wrong things! " And no one wants to discover that he has learned—or taught—the wrong things. Hence, there is an unconscious, but natural, tendency among many scientists and physicians to reject the vitamin-deficiency concept of disease until it is proven, and proven, and proven again. " He goes on to list diseases and concepts that we take for granted but took a very long time (sometimes 250 years to gain acceptance.)... > > > > > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a " doctor " to confirm anything that was not > > > drilled into their heads in med school. That could be compared to the likeness > > > of asking your plumber to check the brakes on your car. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Buenanina <goodchildsinc@> > > > To: mb12 valtrex > > > Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 10:33:26 AM > > > Subject: Re: Healing Code biomedical > > > > > >  > > > Not meaning to take a side one way or another, Guy was saying he wanted to see a > > > confirmation of a doctor's agreement that their was an improvement in a child's > > > condition, something substantiated by science through testing. He was not > > > criticizing anyone who did these Codes, only questioning signficiant results > > > that were not verified by a doctor. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Beunanina, please forgive me. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings or make you feel as if I was making fun of you...I would never do that. The point I was trying to get at was most doctors (the plumbers in this case) would not bother to ever test or research stuff like this or take part any sort of peer-review done by another as its just beyond "what they do", so to speak. I hear exactly where you're coming from...probably the most you will see are testimonials- and well...as a generation brought up on infomercials...you know how that goes....Happy New Year!-TammyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 8:43:34 PMSubject: Re: Healing Code biomedical Again, I believe what the original person was asking was if you have taken your child in and verified he has a medical condition (ADHD, Autism, Allergies, etc) and afterward started The Healing Code and feel that was the cause of significant improvement, this person would like to hear about those type of results. It is not anywhere near asking a plumber to fix your car because he wouldn't know the first thing about fixing your car... it is a request for results through testing, not a confirmation by a doctor that this Code worked or didn't work. Why are some people on here so defensive? It makes it very difficult to want to contribute or read when people respond by attacking or making fun of people that are asking for clarification other than "I said so..." What is wrong with asking for clarification or results through testing? > > > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a "doctor" to confirm anything that was not > > drilled into their heads in med school. That could be compared to the likeness > > of asking your plumber to check the brakes on your car. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Buenanina <goodchildsinc@> > > To: mb12 valtrex > > Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 10:33:26 AM > > Subject: Re: Healing Code biomedical > > > >  > > Not meaning to take a side one way or another, Guy was saying he wanted to see a > > confirmation of a doctor's agreement that their was an improvement in a child's > > condition, something substantiated by science through testing. He was not > > criticizing anyone who did these Codes, only questioning signficiant results > > that were not verified by a doctor. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I think what Guy was saying is fine. He is entitled to his opinion. However when he puts " frankly this is a step down for this group " at the end of his post, that changes the tone entirely. IMHO, it was not necessary and was offensive. I have loved the kind responses I have seen to this thread and for one will be using the Healing Codes on my son as soon as I get my book! Thanks to whoever started talking about it, I love options like this! Amy > > > > > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a " doctor " to confirm anything that was not > > > drilled into their heads in med school. That could be compared to the likeness > > > of asking your plumber to check the brakes on your car. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Buenanina <goodchildsinc@> > > > To: mb12 valtrex > > > Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 10:33:26 AM > > > Subject: Re: Healing Code biomedical > > > > > >  > > > Not meaning to take a side one way or another, Guy was saying he wanted to see a > > > confirmation of a doctor's agreement that their was an improvement in a child's > > > condition, something substantiated by science through testing. He was not > > > criticizing anyone who did these Codes, only questioning signficiant results > > > that were not verified by a doctor. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Gayle, That was beautiful. Thank you so much. I am wondering how we would ever survive without the internet to connect us together. We are parents who got hit by a train, but survived and need to adapt and rethink everything we thought we understood before it happened. Thanks again, it was beautiful and I needed to hear it. Jen > > That's intuition, Jen. It's far easier for us to allow intuition to bubble up > and take over when the subject matter isn't " life or death " to us...like a > football pool for someone who cares nothing about football. The challenge is to > tap into and harness our internal abilities and gifts (everyone has them) on the > subjects that are the hot buttons of our lives. Like any other skill, it takes > time and practice. The beauty of it is that you can work on that internal > discipline while you are exploring other recovery paths...the two are not > mutually exclusive. Your first sentence of your second paragraph would be the > only new years resolution I would make...to change that sentence to something > different yet still believable the way your mind is currently structured on this > topic. (i.e. I believe that the body can right itself given a healing > environment and everyday I get better at improving his healing environment, it > is never, ever too late.) These are facts, ones you probably have no trouble > trusting so they are a good foundation as you develop. You certainly also > believe the actual sentence you wrote...the question is, where is your daily > focus 90% of the time (some would say even just 50% of the time). > > In another generation this work will be very much a part of mainstream medicine > along with the adjuncts we currently see practiced. In some programs, it is > already in place. The bonus to this, I've found, is the added element of PEACE > that comes with it for me as his mom. Peace and PANDAS don't coexist normally > and all the OLE, probiotics and 5htp in the world doesn't bring me the peace > that this does because just like you picking those football teams, this just > feels right. A feeling of ease in the solar plexus always indicates a right move > or thought. > > By the way, applying to the hot buttons of our life is not initially easy work. > I do this for a living and have struggled through the worst year of my life > without the ability to maintain my grasp on tenets I long ago learned to trust. > That is where others come into play...having someone to help you back on the > path when you inevitably fall off and you can't have a kid as sick as ours and > expect to stay on the path all the time. ummm...and it's free...and its not > contraindicated with other therapy...and, whether successful or not, it does no > harm (can't say that about many other adjuncts) > > Sorry for the ramble. Wishing us all PEACE in 2011. > Gayle > > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: mb12 valtrex > Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 9:36:58 AM > Subject: Re: Healing Code biomedical > > > Thanks to all of you for understanding what I was getting at. I am so happy for > all the children who have recovered in various ways and also happy to have the > privledge of spending time with many children who haven't recovered. They are > all so cool and interesting. I know my life has been so much more meaningful for > having known them then it would have been otherwise. > > > I've always felt like we just wouldn't be lucky enough to have a medical > miracle. We are not a worse case senario, and have exceeded expexctations, but > I just can't see the Virgin in that piece of bread and I don't feel like we > have a winning powerball ticket. > > I won the first football pool we did at work this year. I know knothing about > football other than the teams cities and Micheal Vick was mean to dogs. As I > was circling the choices, I felt I knew which team to circle. As I was doing > it, it felt like I was getting the answers right on a multiple choice test. I > wasn't surprised I won, but all the guys who study the stats sure were > surprised. > > This makes me wonder if sometimes, we know what's coming or what will work > instictively, but we can't always hear it. I will try to be more open to that. > Happy New Year to everyone! May all your miracles come to be, and thank you for > sharing. > > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I wanted to add also that I am very very thankful to whoever started this topic, because I always felt that the emotional part/stress was never fully addressed with my son (also me) and although we have tried various therapis in the past (DAN, classical and sequentail homeopathy, diets, now also Lyme doctor) I always felt that something is missing... I must admit that SonRise also helped me with having more positive thinking and overall help with my attitude, but I truly believe that with using the Healing codes I will help my son to recover faster. I read the book and yesterday was the first time I started using the codes/prayers, so I will report to the group once we start seeing something. Krassi > > I think what Guy was saying is fine. He is entitled to his opinion. However when he puts " frankly this is a step down for this group " at the end of his post, that changes the tone entirely. IMHO, it was not necessary and was offensive. I have loved the kind responses I have seen to this thread and for one will be using the Healing Codes on my son as soon as I get my book! > Thanks to whoever started talking about it, I love options like this! > Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I wanted to add also that I am very very thankful to whoever started this topic, because I always felt that the emotional part/stress was never fully addressed with my son (also me) and although we have tried various therapis in the past (DAN, classical and sequentail homeopathy, diets, now also Lyme doctor) I always felt that something is missing... I must admit that SonRise also helped me with having more positive thinking and overall help with my attitude, but I truly believe that with using the Healing codes I will help my son to recover faster. I read the book and yesterday was the first time I started using the codes/prayers, so I will report to the group once we start seeing something. Krassi > > I think what Guy was saying is fine. He is entitled to his opinion. However when he puts " frankly this is a step down for this group " at the end of his post, that changes the tone entirely. IMHO, it was not necessary and was offensive. I have loved the kind responses I have seen to this thread and for one will be using the Healing Codes on my son as soon as I get my book! > Thanks to whoever started talking about it, I love options like this! > Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I'm not offended, just finding it difficult to get a point across. I don't think anyone asked if a DOCTOR supported The Healing Code, but could the doctor CONFIRM the results you see through testing? I know most doctors (other than psychologists) would not subscribe to this type of healing protocol, but that doesn't mean they couldn't test to confirm the results of which you speak. Our own pediatrician is adamant that Gluten Free is not a reliable diet for a toddler, yet I have been doing it since June of last year due to our son's extreme reflux and lack of weight gain. It wasn't until we went to the doctor in the last month that she finally SAW and CONFIRMED that what I was doing was working. His feeding therapist SAW and CONFIRMED that his diet has allowed him to make signficiant cognitive and behavioral improvements. You can do something that a doctor doesn't necessarily agree with or support, and they can confirm your actions by verifying the results you see. We are not asking if your doctor supports it, only if they could verify the results. If the gains are as significant as you said, why not have it verified by a doctor if you trusted the original diagnoses in the first place? <scratches head in frustration> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I'm not offended, just finding it difficult to get a point across. I don't think anyone asked if a DOCTOR supported The Healing Code, but could the doctor CONFIRM the results you see through testing? I know most doctors (other than psychologists) would not subscribe to this type of healing protocol, but that doesn't mean they couldn't test to confirm the results of which you speak. Our own pediatrician is adamant that Gluten Free is not a reliable diet for a toddler, yet I have been doing it since June of last year due to our son's extreme reflux and lack of weight gain. It wasn't until we went to the doctor in the last month that she finally SAW and CONFIRMED that what I was doing was working. His feeding therapist SAW and CONFIRMED that his diet has allowed him to make signficiant cognitive and behavioral improvements. You can do something that a doctor doesn't necessarily agree with or support, and they can confirm your actions by verifying the results you see. We are not asking if your doctor supports it, only if they could verify the results. If the gains are as significant as you said, why not have it verified by a doctor if you trusted the original diagnoses in the first place? <scratches head in frustration> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I do not have enough results that I could take to a doctor and have them evaluate it yet. The supplements are another variable so if I went to a doctor and ask him to decree whether the Code was working, he would probably not be able to isolate what was working.'s seizure tics have gone away, then came back when she was in stress, then went away with more HC, then come back again when she didn't get enough sleep. I don't think I have found the best way of using the Code yet, either. I am still working on it--for myself, for , and for . We are seeing progress, movement is taking place, but our results are not entirely consistent and I still want to try a few different things with it. But this is the first time that I have seen anything effect her tic since I stupidly had amalgam fillings put in (they increased her tic). When I realized they were mercury, I had them removed but the tic had gotten worse and it stayed that way up until now.For me, this is still a work in progress. The Code is working for us. Flawlessly? No. At it's optimum? No, I don't think so. But from my experience with it for less than one month, I can say that what I say when I give the Code does seem to have an impact on the result. And that is consistent with what he says in the book. Interesting.I will post more when I have more experience using the Code and can make recommendations.sallyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 8:32:49 PMSubject: Re: Healing Code biomedical I'm not offended, just finding it difficult to get a point across. I don't think anyone asked if a DOCTOR supported The Healing Code, but could the doctor CONFIRM the results you see through testing? I know most doctors (other than psychologists) would not subscribe to this type of healing protocol, but that doesn't mean they couldn't test to confirm the results of which you speak. Our own pediatrician is adamant that Gluten Free is not a reliable diet for a toddler, yet I have been doing it since June of last year due to our son's extreme reflux and lack of weight gain. It wasn't until we went to the doctor in the last month that she finally SAW and CONFIRMED that what I was doing was working. His feeding therapist SAW and CONFIRMED that his diet has allowed him to make signficiant cognitive and behavioral improvements. You can do something that a doctor doesn't necessarily agree with or support, and they can confirm your actions by verifying the results you see. We are not asking if your doctor supports it, only if they could verify the results. If the gains are as significant as you said, why not have it verified by a doctor if you trusted the original diagnoses in the first place? <scratches head in frustration> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hi Sally,I wondered how you are using the healing code on your children. I am still reading the book, but so far he talks about doing the HC on yourself if you are using it to heal someone else. So I was wondering if you use the hand positions on your kids or are you doing it on yourself for your kids (does that question make sense). I want to use it for my autistic daughter, but not sure if one way is more effective than the other. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us. Subject: Re: Re: Healing Code biomedicalTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 3:43 PM I do not have enough results that I could take to a doctor and have them evaluate it yet. The supplements are another variable so if I went to a doctor and ask him to decree whether the Code was working, he would probably not be able to isolate what was working.'s seizure tics have gone away, then came back when she was in stress, then went away with more HC, then come back again when she didn't get enough sleep. I don't think I have found the best way of using the Code yet, either. I am still working on it--for myself, for , and for . We are seeing progress, movement is taking place, but our results are not entirely consistent and I still want to try a few different things with it. But this is the first time that I have seen anything effect her tic since I stupidly had amalgam fillings put in (they increased her tic). When I realized they were mercury, I had them removed but the tic had gotten worse and it stayed that way up until now.For me, this is still a work in progress. The Code is working for us. Flawlessly? No. At it's optimum? No, I don't think so. But from my experience with it for less than one month, I can say that what I say when I give the Code does seem to have an impact on the result. And that is consistent with what he says in the book. Interesting.I will post more when I have more experience using the Code and can make recommendations.sallyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 8:32:49 PMSubject: Re: Healing Code biomedical I'm not offended, just finding it difficult to get a point across. I don't think anyone asked if a DOCTOR supported The Healing Code, but could the doctor CONFIRM the results you see through testing? I know most doctors (other than psychologists) would not subscribe to this type of healing protocol, but that doesn't mean they couldn't test to confirm the results of which you speak. Our own pediatrician is adamant that Gluten Free is not a reliable diet for a toddler, yet I have been doing it since June of last year due to our son's extreme reflux and lack of weight gain. It wasn't until we went to the doctor in the last month that she finally SAW and CONFIRMED that what I was doing was working. His feeding therapist SAW and CONFIRMED that his diet has allowed him to make signficiant cognitive and behavioral improvements. You can do something that a doctor doesn't necessarily agree with or support, and they can confirm your actions by verifying the results you see. We are not asking if your doctor supports it, only if they could verify the results. If the gains are as significant as you said, why not have it verified by a doctor if you trusted the original diagnoses in the first place? <scratches head in frustration> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hi Sally,I wondered how you are using the healing code on your children. I am still reading the book, but so far he talks about doing the HC on yourself if you are using it to heal someone else. So I was wondering if you use the hand positions on your kids or are you doing it on yourself for your kids (does that question make sense). I want to use it for my autistic daughter, but not sure if one way is more effective than the other. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us. Subject: Re: Re: Healing Code biomedicalTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 3:43 PM I do not have enough results that I could take to a doctor and have them evaluate it yet. The supplements are another variable so if I went to a doctor and ask him to decree whether the Code was working, he would probably not be able to isolate what was working.'s seizure tics have gone away, then came back when she was in stress, then went away with more HC, then come back again when she didn't get enough sleep. I don't think I have found the best way of using the Code yet, either. I am still working on it--for myself, for , and for . We are seeing progress, movement is taking place, but our results are not entirely consistent and I still want to try a few different things with it. But this is the first time that I have seen anything effect her tic since I stupidly had amalgam fillings put in (they increased her tic). When I realized they were mercury, I had them removed but the tic had gotten worse and it stayed that way up until now.For me, this is still a work in progress. The Code is working for us. Flawlessly? No. At it's optimum? No, I don't think so. But from my experience with it for less than one month, I can say that what I say when I give the Code does seem to have an impact on the result. And that is consistent with what he says in the book. Interesting.I will post more when I have more experience using the Code and can make recommendations.sallyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 8:32:49 PMSubject: Re: Healing Code biomedical I'm not offended, just finding it difficult to get a point across. I don't think anyone asked if a DOCTOR supported The Healing Code, but could the doctor CONFIRM the results you see through testing? I know most doctors (other than psychologists) would not subscribe to this type of healing protocol, but that doesn't mean they couldn't test to confirm the results of which you speak. Our own pediatrician is adamant that Gluten Free is not a reliable diet for a toddler, yet I have been doing it since June of last year due to our son's extreme reflux and lack of weight gain. It wasn't until we went to the doctor in the last month that she finally SAW and CONFIRMED that what I was doing was working. His feeding therapist SAW and CONFIRMED that his diet has allowed him to make signficiant cognitive and behavioral improvements. You can do something that a doctor doesn't necessarily agree with or support, and they can confirm your actions by verifying the results you see. We are not asking if your doctor supports it, only if they could verify the results. If the gains are as significant as you said, why not have it verified by a doctor if you trusted the original diagnoses in the first place? <scratches head in frustration> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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