Re: Off gfcf after chelating?

[Guest guest]

Hi Ben

My son is off the CFGF diet using HNI digestive enzymes. I hated the diet

with a vengance and with increasing numbers of foods being withdrawn, it

wasn't very healthy either. I have not heard ever of somebody who just

stopped at removing gluten and casein.......... The best part is Sam is doing

SO much better off diet and on enzymes. We had been on them 9 months prior to

chelation and I'm convinced the gut healing and yeast treating properties

have smoothed the way gut bug wise. With have flares after some rounds but we

are able to sort it in a few days. Check out

www.houstonni.com

/

and brilliant book here and at Amazon

www.thundersnow.com/enzymebook.htm

Good luck

MAndi in UK

> Just curious..those of you who have been through many rounds, has

> anyone been able to successfully go off the gfcf diet. Does

> chelating help that aspect of the scenario?

>

> I just started the diet with my son and it seems to help him alot but

> the diet is daunting to me right now. I hate to think my son will

> have to eat this way forever.

>

> Not chelating yet, but getting close I think.

>

> Ben

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I just read the 2002 book by DeFelice, " Enzymes for Autism and other

Neurological Conditions. " It is so much more than just about enzymes, but

the enzyme part has convinced me to try the HNI enzymes. It is an easy read

and an enjoyable read, although it is 342 pages. I leaned so much from this

book and was able to pull many things together. It is not very expensive,

too. I will let you know how my 8 year old who has finished her 3rd round of

chelation does on the enzymes. She has a helathy diet but a restricted one.

The enzymes have the promise of letting her eat lots more foods and be more

like her friends.

Thanks Mandi for telling us about this. Mandi should write the next book for

all of us.

in Salt Lake City

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/2002 19:57:06 GMT Standard Time,

lsarnold@... writes:

> I would love to take my child off the gfcf diet, but I would not use enzymes

> on an on-going basis to do so. Enzymes have only been out for a short

> period

> of time and their long-term effects are unknown. My son already has enough

> problems without potentially adding another.

>

> As far as casein, a lot of people would be far healthier if they cut milk

> products out of their diet. There are much superior sources of calcium, fat

> and protein for children.

>

> Lynne

>

I hear you but have you researched enzymes, this is probably the safest supp

with the most background information available I give my son, 18 months now

and he's still improving

[Guest guest]

Ben,

The earlier you start chelating the better. My autistic son still

has a very limited diet but if he goes off the reactions are not like

they use ot be. My other son was 2 when I chelated him and withinin

the first round I was a ble to feed him more foods. He can eat

anything now. Milk and noodles were the last to stop giving him

problems.

nne

> Hi Ben

> My son is off the CFGF diet using HNI digestive enzymes. I hated

the diet

> with a vengance and with increasing numbers of foods being

withdrawn, it

> wasn't very healthy either. I have not heard ever of somebody who

just

> stopped at removing gluten and casein.......... The best part is

Sam is doing

> SO much better off diet and on enzymes. We had been on them 9

months prior to

> chelation and I'm convinced the gut healing and yeast treating

properties

> have smoothed the way gut bug wise. With have flares after some

rounds but we

> are able to sort it in a few days. Check out

>

> www.houstonni.com

>

> /

>

> and brilliant book here and at Amazon

>

> www.thundersnow.com/enzymebook.htm

>

>

> Good luck

> MAndi in UK

>

> > Just curious..those of you who have been through many rounds, has

> > anyone been able to successfully go off the gfcf diet. Does

> > chelating help that aspect of the scenario?

> >

> > I just started the diet with my son and it seems to help him alot

but

> > the diet is daunting to me right now. I hate to think my son

will

> > have to eat this way forever.

> >

> > Not chelating yet, but getting close I think.

> >

> > Ben

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Just curious..those of you who have been through many rounds, has

> anyone been able to successfully go off the gfcf diet. Does

> chelating help that aspect of the scenario?

Yes, we are no longer gfcf over here. We use HNI enzymes, but my kids

still had to be gf for about 28 rounds of chelation, they regressed

with gluten even with enzymes, altho they were able to have casein

again right away. But after round 28 I challenged gluten again [with

enzymes] and they do just fine with it now. There are still foods

they can't have, even with enzymes, but as chelation is progressing,

they are improving in that area also.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I would love to take my child off the gfcf diet, but I would not use enzymes

on an on-going basis to do so. Enzymes have only been out for a short period

of time and their long-term effects are unknown. My son already has enough

problems without potentially adding another.

As far as casein, a lot of people would be far healthier if they cut milk

products out of their diet. There are much superior sources of calcium, fat

and protein for children.

Lynne

> Hi Ben

> My son is off the CFGF diet using HNI digestive enzymes. I hated the diet

> with a vengance and with increasing numbers of foods being withdrawn, it

> wasn't very healthy either. I have not heard ever of somebody who just

> stopped at removing gluten and casein.......... The best part is Sam is doing

> SO much better off diet and on enzymes. We had been on them 9 months prior to

> chelation and I'm convinced the gut healing and yeast treating properties

> have smoothed the way gut bug wise. With have flares after some rounds but we

> are able to sort it in a few days. Check out

>

> www.houstonni.com

>

> /

>

> and brilliant book here and at Amazon

>

> www.thundersnow.com/enzymebook.htm

>

>

> Good luck

> MAndi in UK

>

>> Just curious..those of you who have been through many rounds, has

>> anyone been able to successfully go off the gfcf diet. Does

>> chelating help that aspect of the scenario?

>>

>> I just started the diet with my son and it seems to help him alot but

>> the diet is daunting to me right now. I hate to think my son will

>> have to eat this way forever.

>>

>> Not chelating yet, but getting close I think.

>>

>> Ben

[Guest guest]

There are still foods

> they can't have, even with enzymes, but as chelation is

progressing,

> they are improving in that area also.

>

> Dana

That's so encouraging Dana. You've done a great job and must be

proud and thankful. I hope we can muster the moxie to see it as far

as you have. To think the kid could go to a pizza party someday....

Ben

[Guest guest]

> Just curious..those of you who have been through many rounds, has

> anyone been able to successfully go off the gfcf diet. Does

> chelating help that aspect of the scenario?

Hi Ben,

Another place you may want to look is here:

/files/LOVE_LETTERS

If you are not familiar with the format of the file, take a

couple of minutes to poke around first.

Then, you can do " edit | find in page " to look for specific

words on the page. For example, look for " GFCF " or " infraction "

or " food " . This is inexact, but will lead you to posts about

kids with changes in these areas.

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

> There are still foods

> > they can't have, even with enzymes, but as chelation is

> progressing,

> > they are improving in that area also.

> >

> > Dana

>

> That's so encouraging Dana. You've done a great job and must be

> proud and thankful. I hope we can muster the moxie to see it as far

> as you have. To think the kid could go to a pizza party someday....

>

> Ben

My #3 son can eat foods without enzymes now, and he can eat some

foods that #2 and #4 still can't have. #4 is almost there, she

still needs enzymes for certain foods and there are certain foods

which give her " small " amount of diarrhea even with enzymes, but

not nearly so bad as before. #2 still needs enzymes and several

food restrictions, but I recently reduced his quantity, he only gets

1/2 capsule instead of a full capsule and he is doing just fine.

Things are moving along!

Dana