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wondering if anyone knows whether NGS (Nat Gov Services- our new FI) requires

that the therapy minutes documented in the chart for acute rehab units must list

start and end times or just the total # of minutes. CMS doesn't go into that

level of detail, but not sure what NGS's take is.

any info appreciated on this topic. Thanks.

, Supervisor

St. Luke's Roosevelt

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I don't have an answer for your question but wondering how IRF's are calculating

the number of units for therapy services. Is the outpatient rule being followed

(rounding up or down) for charges?

Example-- how many units for 52 minutes? for 20 minutes? etc.

Lori Stoddart, OTR

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Physical Rehabilitation Services

Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital

23333 Biddle Avenue

Wyandotte, MI 48192

734/246-8963

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

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To: rehabnurse-l@...; PTManager

Subject: therapy minutes for IRFs

wondering if anyone knows whether NGS (Nat Gov Services- our new FI) requires

that the therapy minutes documented in the chart for acute rehab units must list

start and end times or just the total # of minutes. CMS doesn't go into that

level of detail, but not sure what NGS's take is.

any info appreciated on this topic. Thanks.

, Supervisor

St. Luke's Roosevelt

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I don't have an answer for your question but wondering how IRF's are calculating

the number of units for therapy services. Is the outpatient rule being followed

(rounding up or down) for charges?

Example-- how many units for 52 minutes? for 20 minutes? etc.

Lori Stoddart, OTR

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Physical Rehabilitation Services

Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital

23333 Biddle Avenue

Wyandotte, MI 48192

734/246-8963

lstodda1@...

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:02 AM

To: rehabnurse-l@...; PTManager

Subject: therapy minutes for IRFs

wondering if anyone knows whether NGS (Nat Gov Services- our new FI) requires

that the therapy minutes documented in the chart for acute rehab units must list

start and end times or just the total # of minutes. CMS doesn't go into that

level of detail, but not sure what NGS's take is.

any info appreciated on this topic. Thanks.

, Supervisor

St. Luke's Roosevelt

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