Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Jim, that was a terrific post. And , I like your comments as well, although I find they are not practical. Even though I believe we provide better service and outcomes than some other local clinics, we can’t turn down most of the poorly paying contracts. Because many of our patients are blue collar, they would flock to the other practices that would be sure to accept any and all unfavorable contracts: the POPTS and the corporate owned. Believe me, I’d love to see a revolution, but every practice would have to participate. Unfortunately, we have found that the minute patients have to pay out of pocket for PT, they elect to self-discharge. I agree that having National standards for all medical coverage, including those companies who choose to self-fund would be beneficial. Viel, Office Manager Mt. Eden Physical Therapy Center From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of dosrinc Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 9:56 AM To: PTManager Subject: Re: Insurance Reform Great post Jim, I would like to comment on this portion " For the most part, Insurance Reimbursement dictates whether you get paid and how much. The patient comes in the door for your services, but the patient's insurance company dictates what you have to do, whether you did it right and how much you are going to get paid to treat that patient. Is this right or wrong? " In my opinion, this is wrong, and until we get some federalization or other standardization/transparency as to what an individual patient's insurance contract allows I think it behooves us as a profession to take this power away from the insurance company. We are the professional, we, in consultation with the patient, and directed by our experience and the scientific evidence, should be the ones dictating what it is that we do and how we do it. The marketplace should determine how much we get paid for it. How do we accomplish this? We refuse to contract with insurance companies, we do what we do and we make the patient responsible for the payment. I think it is only when the providers remove themselves from this battle with the insurance agencies that we see the insured begin to revolt and demand better from the companies that they send so much money to. Sincerely, E. s, PT, DPT Orthopedic Clinical Specialist Fellow American Academy of Orthopedic Manual Physical Therapists www.douglasspt.com : > > > All > > With last week being Super Bowl weekend, imagine referees calling penalties based upon football rules within their given state. Or worse, having to call penalties based upon where the player’s out of season residence is. If a player’s off season residence is California, the referee would have to call penalties based upon California football rules. If the player resided in Tennessee, then…, you get the picture. Can you imagine the nightmare and headache involved in calling a game? With that analogy in mind… > > I have just spoken with a representative from one of my United States Senator's office about Federalizing Insurance Laws. The conversation was extremely generic, as this representative wasn't in tune with Healthcare Providers and the issues they face. As we spoke, I used acronyms like CMS (Center for Medicare/Medicaid Services), MAC (Medicare Administrative Contractor), rs, Intermediaries, ERISA (Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974), etc. When I finished, she was very candid and told me that she wasn't well versed in what I was talking about. She did provide me with a contact that is better positioned to discuss provider reimbursement issues and I have left a message. I have been a proponent of federalizing insurance regulations to " level the playing field " for providers. But I do not think I am doing a good job of educating people why I believe this is important. I wish every single person that reads PTManager would take some time to read this post. For the most part, Insurance Reimbursement dictates whether you get paid and how much. The patient comes in the door for your services, but the patient's insurance company dictates what you have to do, whether you did it right and how much you are going to get paid to treat that patient. Is this right or wrong? I think there are as many opinions on this question as there are readers of PTManager posts. > > Let me start out by stating that there are 4 Federal Programs establishing laws governing the healthcare of the people that fall under these Federal insurance programs (there may be more, but I don't have time to research). The 4 are as follows: > > 1. Medicare > 2. Medicaid (Federally Funded program with State matching funds required) > 3. Champus/Tricare (Insurance for Military Personnel and their families) > 4. ERISA (Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974) I believe this covers self funded insurance benefit plans. And here is a link if you would like to read up on it: > > http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/regs/fedreg/final/2000029766.htm > > In addition to the 4 Federal programs, each state has their own set of insurance laws, governing insurance companies that operate within their state boundaries. Each year, our Federal Regulations undergo some modifications. Each year, our state insurance laws undergo modifications. Each year, our Insurance Companies review their Medical Policies and modify them if they chose to. > > Let me first isolate the Medicare program (but I believe the same statements that I am making for Medicare will probably hold true for the other 3 Federal Programs..., if not, I am sure someone on this listserv will correct me). Medicare has a printed medical policy and a series of printed geographic reimbursements for their services (i.e., the Physician Fee Schedule). Everyone has access to that policy, and if a provider doesn't understand the why of something, can pull up this policy and review it. If they don't like something in that policy, they can protest it, appeal it or accept it and move on/change their treatment methodology. The same holds true for the other 3 federal programs. However, I would expect that not everyone encounters the other 3 programs as much as they do Medicare. > > Now, if a patient comes through your door and has an insurance other than the ones illustrated above, chances are that you are dealing with an insurance company that falls under your state law's jurisdiction (unless this patient resides out of state or was injured on the job in another state..., in which case that state's laws govern your treatment). All of these insurance companies have established Medical Policies. At this point I would ask all of you reading this the following questions: > > 1. Does your state law formulate a standard for medical policy (and if they don't, who decides medical policy for insurance companies/beneficiaries)? > 2. If not, does your insurance company publish or otherwise make their medical policy available to you? > 3. How many medical policies should you have to know in order to provide the appropriate medical treatment for your patient? > > In the past 2 decades, CMS (Center for Medicare/Medicaid Services) has been undergoing a transformation. In the late 80's, HCFA (HealthCare Financing Administration) had laws on the books that were being interpreted by multiple Medicare rs (Medicare Part B-Outpatient Clinics) and Intermediaries (Medicare Part A-Hospitals) in each state. In each state HCFA had at least one r and Intermediary under contract to administer their regulations and provide oversight of their programs. In some states, HCFA had multiple rs and Intermediaries. Each r and Intermediary was responsible for interpreting those regulations. In recent years we have seen consolidation of rs and Intermediaries into MAC's. While I cannot pretend to understand HCFA/CMS' decision for this consolidation, I suspect it had a basis in reducing cost and providing more consistent interpretation of the regulations. I know the WPS (Wisconsin Physician Services) is now the MAC for at least 8 states (4 of which they handle both Medicare A and . The result of this consolidation has been more consistent interpretation of the Medicare Regulations across both Medicare A and B settings (Hospitals and Outpatient clinics respectively) > > Where am I going with all of this? Ask yourself these questions: > > 1. In addition to knowing the 4 Federal Programs Medical Policy, how many other medical policies do I have to know within my state boundary? > 2. Am I treating a patient that was injured in a Work Related Accident from out of state? If so, do I know the W/C (work comp) Medical Policy for that state? > 3. Are any of my patients covered under an out of state policy? If so, what is their medical policy? > 4. ***MOST IMPORTANT*** Should Insurance medical policy coverage be substantially different from one insurance company to the next or, could a federal policy be generated that could govern 90% of what we do? > > These issues don't always affect the healthcare provider because they hire staff to " handle " these issues. But the support staff can chew up a lot of administrative time digging for answers to these questions. If they don't, Insurance companies can typically tell patients that the provider knew or should have known their policy before treatment started. > > I believe that if we could establish a single Medical Policy or even limit the numbers of policies, it would save a great deal of healthcare provider time and money (i.e., reduce expenses). Or, maybe an even better option (which employers seem to be embracing more regularly), is to push patients over to a catastrophic policy with a Medical Savings (health savings account) account. That way the insurance companies have less control and the consumer becomes more responsible for their healthcare decisions. > > If you have made it this far in the post, congratulations for not falling asleep!!! Federalization of insurance laws may not be the answer, but some form of standarization is. And I do not see 50 states binding together to come up with a common set of laws or a common medical policy. > > Jim Hall, CPA <///>< > General Manager > Rehab Management Services, LLC > Cedar Rapids, IA > 319/892-0142 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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