Re: Regression - frustration!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have 4 y.o.very sensetive to supl. and phenols. May be it is little different - but still - the same, he get regressed on Virostop (enzime antiviral) it was good progress for 3 mon - then BAM - same regress. It was month ago

Now he is recovering - I put him on LOD - it helps, And by the way looking for NAET specialist - as our DAN recomended.

My personal opinion - that Antiviral Virostop overstimulated imune system .

Did NAET work for your child?

Elena

Subject: Regression - frustration!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

Hey guys,Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!We are dealing with: high levels of antimony,

arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?thanks for listening, (mum to 5 year old ASD)

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have 4 y.o.very sensetive to supl. and phenols. May be it is little different - but still - the same, he get regressed on Virostop (enzime antiviral) it was good progress for 3 mon - then BAM - same regress. It was month ago

Now he is recovering - I put him on LOD - it helps, And by the way looking for NAET specialist - as our DAN recomended.

My personal opinion - that Antiviral Virostop overstimulated imune system .

Did NAET work for your child?

Elena

Subject: Regression - frustration!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

Hey guys,Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!We are dealing with: high levels of antimony,

arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?thanks for listening, (mum to 5 year old ASD)

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have 4 y.o.very sensetive to supl. and phenols. May be it is little different - but still - the same, he get regressed on Virostop (enzime antiviral) it was good progress for 3 mon - then BAM - same regress. It was month ago

Now he is recovering - I put him on LOD - it helps, And by the way looking for NAET specialist - as our DAN recomended.

My personal opinion - that Antiviral Virostop overstimulated imune system .

Did NAET work for your child?

Elena

Subject: Regression - frustration!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

Hey guys,Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!We are dealing with: high levels of antimony,

arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?thanks for listening, (mum to 5 year old ASD)

[Guest guest]



Hi Elena,

Thanks for your reply, yes my son has an issue with phenols also, his ears go red as soon as he has eaten anything with phenols. NAET did work on some level and I think it has helped him when he may have eaten something he shouldn't. But we went for a holiday to Fiji where he ate pretty much anything as there wasn't much options for food but after a few days he became zoned out, less speech, agressive, so I would say very small amounts of gluten/casein would be okay for him but certainly not a weeks worth! I am so glad that we tried it though, we did one for viruses and my son came out with flu symptoms and a rash all over him so it was definitely doing something.

If you have any questions just let me know.

kind regards,

elizabeth

Regression - frustration!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

Hey guys,Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?thanks for listening, (mum to 5 year old ASD)

[Guest guest]



Hi Elena,

Thanks for your reply, yes my son has an issue with phenols also, his ears go red as soon as he has eaten anything with phenols. NAET did work on some level and I think it has helped him when he may have eaten something he shouldn't. But we went for a holiday to Fiji where he ate pretty much anything as there wasn't much options for food but after a few days he became zoned out, less speech, agressive, so I would say very small amounts of gluten/casein would be okay for him but certainly not a weeks worth! I am so glad that we tried it though, we did one for viruses and my son came out with flu symptoms and a rash all over him so it was definitely doing something.

If you have any questions just let me know.

kind regards,

elizabeth

Regression - frustration!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

Hey guys,Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?thanks for listening, (mum to 5 year old ASD)

[Guest guest]



Hi Elena,

Thanks for your reply, yes my son has an issue with phenols also, his ears go red as soon as he has eaten anything with phenols. NAET did work on some level and I think it has helped him when he may have eaten something he shouldn't. But we went for a holiday to Fiji where he ate pretty much anything as there wasn't much options for food but after a few days he became zoned out, less speech, agressive, so I would say very small amounts of gluten/casein would be okay for him but certainly not a weeks worth! I am so glad that we tried it though, we did one for viruses and my son came out with flu symptoms and a rash all over him so it was definitely doing something.

If you have any questions just let me know.

kind regards,

elizabeth

Regression - frustration!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

Hey guys,Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?thanks for listening, (mum to 5 year old ASD)

[Guest guest]

Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with

PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about

every 6 months...

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>

>

> Subject: Regression - frustration!

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

>

>

>

> Hey guys,

>

> Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5

with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex

and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of

doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and

then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly

and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues

to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech

and compliance etc).

>

> Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and

keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to

the point of 'recovery'?

>

> We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod

liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!

>

> We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury,

lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.

>

> At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but

as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that

this will be suitable for him?

>

> thanks for listening,

> (mum to 5 year old ASD)

>

[Guest guest]

Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with

PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about

every 6 months...

>

>

>

> Subject: Regression - frustration!

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

>

>

>

> Hey guys,

>

> Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5

with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex

and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of

doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and

then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly

and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues

to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech

and compliance etc).

>

> Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and

keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to

the point of 'recovery'?

>

> We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod

liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!

>

> We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury,

lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.

>

> At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but

as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that

this will be suitable for him?

>

> thanks for listening,

> (mum to 5 year old ASD)

>

[Guest guest]

Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with

PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about

every 6 months...

>

>

>

> Subject: Regression - frustration!

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

>

>

>

> Hey guys,

>

> Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5

with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex

and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of

doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and

then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly

and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues

to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech

and compliance etc).

>

> Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and

keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to

the point of 'recovery'?

>

> We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod

liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!

>

> We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury,

lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.

>

> At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but

as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that

this will be suitable for him?

>

> thanks for listening,

> (mum to 5 year old ASD)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for your reply. He definitely has Strep so i think that my be PANDAS?

---- " stephanieweeks@... " wrote:

> Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with

PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about

every 6 months...

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Subject: Regression - frustration!

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey guys,

> >

> > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5

with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex

and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of

doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and

then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly

and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues

to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech

and compliance etc).

> >

> > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and

keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to

the point of 'recovery'?

> >

> > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod

liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!

> >

> > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury,

lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.

> >

> > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but

as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that

this will be suitable for him?

> >

> > thanks for listening,

> > (mum to 5 year old ASD)

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for your reply. He definitely has Strep so i think that my be PANDAS?

---- " stephanieweeks@... " wrote:

> Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with

PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about

every 6 months...

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Subject: Regression - frustration!

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey guys,

> >

> > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5

with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex

and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of

doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and

then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly

and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues

to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech

and compliance etc).

> >

> > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and

keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to

the point of 'recovery'?

> >

> > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod

liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!

> >

> > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury,

lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.

> >

> > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but

as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that

this will be suitable for him?

> >

> > thanks for listening,

> > (mum to 5 year old ASD)

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for your reply. He definitely has Strep so i think that my be PANDAS?

---- " stephanieweeks@... " wrote:

> Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with

PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about

every 6 months...

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Subject: Regression - frustration!

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey guys,

> >

> > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5

with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex

and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of

doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and

then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly

and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues

to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech

and compliance etc).

> >

> > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and

keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to

the point of 'recovery'?

> >

> > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod

liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!

> >

> > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury,

lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.

> >

> > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but

as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that

this will be suitable for him?

> >

> > thanks for listening,

> > (mum to 5 year old ASD)

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not much of a poster as I have asked several times what to do with my increasingly aggressive son. Reviewing another site, I researched oxytocin spray and read about "calming effect" on some autistic children. I think there is also a study going on. Ordered some per DAN doctor through Wellness. Okay- this has been a real WOW for us. Yesterday and today my son came home with school reports that said "super" day instead of how many times he hit and screamed. I realize it is only the 2nd day but so far I'm impressed. Just wanted to share..margie in vaHi ,Thanks for your reply. He definitely has Strep so i think that my be PANDAS?---- "stephanieweeksymail" <stephanieweeksymail> wrote: > Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about every 6 months...> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Regression - frustration!> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM> > > > > > > > Hey guys,> > > > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).> > > > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?> > > > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!> > > > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.> > > > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?> > > > thanks for listening,> > (mum to 5 year old ASD)> >> >

[Guest guest]

I'm not much of a poster as I have asked several times what to do with my increasingly aggressive son. Reviewing another site, I researched oxytocin spray and read about "calming effect" on some autistic children. I think there is also a study going on. Ordered some per DAN doctor through Wellness. Okay- this has been a real WOW for us. Yesterday and today my son came home with school reports that said "super" day instead of how many times he hit and screamed. I realize it is only the 2nd day but so far I'm impressed. Just wanted to share..margie in vaHi ,Thanks for your reply. He definitely has Strep so i think that my be PANDAS?---- "stephanieweeksymail" <stephanieweeksymail> wrote: > Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about every 6 months...> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Regression - frustration!> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM> > > > > > > > Hey guys,> > > > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).> > > > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?> > > > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!> > > > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.> > > > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?> > > > thanks for listening,> > (mum to 5 year old ASD)> >> >

[Guest guest]

I'm not much of a poster as I have asked several times what to do with my increasingly aggressive son. Reviewing another site, I researched oxytocin spray and read about "calming effect" on some autistic children. I think there is also a study going on. Ordered some per DAN doctor through Wellness. Okay- this has been a real WOW for us. Yesterday and today my son came home with school reports that said "super" day instead of how many times he hit and screamed. I realize it is only the 2nd day but so far I'm impressed. Just wanted to share..margie in vaHi ,Thanks for your reply. He definitely has Strep so i think that my be PANDAS?---- "stephanieweeksymail" <stephanieweeksymail> wrote: > Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about every 6 months...> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Regression - frustration!> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM> > > > > > > > Hey guys,> > > > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).> > > > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?> > > > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!> > > > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.> > > > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?> > > > thanks for listening,> > (mum to 5 year old ASD)> >> >

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What dose are you using?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceDate: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:59:15 -0500To: <mb12 valtrex >Subject: Re: Re: Regression - frustration! I'm not much of a poster as I have asked several times what to do with my increasingly aggressive son. Reviewing another site, I researched oxytocin spray and read about "calming effect" on some autistic children. I think there is also a study going on. Ordered some per DAN doctor through Wellness. Okay- this has been a real WOW for us. Yesterday and today my son came home with school reports that said "super" day instead of how many times he hit and screamed. I realize it is only the 2nd day but so far I'm impressed. Just wanted to share..margie in vaOn Jan 13, 2010, at 8:57 PM, elizabeth.hutchisonbigpond wrote:Hi ,Thanks for your reply. He definitely has Strep so i think that my be PANDAS?---- "stephanieweeksymail" <stephanieweeksymail> wrote: > Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about every 6 months...> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Regression - frustration!> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM> > > > > > > > Hey guys,> > > > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).> > > > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?> > > > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!> > > > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.> > > > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?> > > > thanks for listening,> > (mum to 5 year old ASD)> >> >

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What dose are you using?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceDate: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:59:15 -0500To: <mb12 valtrex >Subject: Re: Re: Regression - frustration! I'm not much of a poster as I have asked several times what to do with my increasingly aggressive son. Reviewing another site, I researched oxytocin spray and read about "calming effect" on some autistic children. I think there is also a study going on. Ordered some per DAN doctor through Wellness. Okay- this has been a real WOW for us. Yesterday and today my son came home with school reports that said "super" day instead of how many times he hit and screamed. I realize it is only the 2nd day but so far I'm impressed. Just wanted to share..margie in vaOn Jan 13, 2010, at 8:57 PM, elizabeth.hutchisonbigpond wrote:Hi ,Thanks for your reply. He definitely has Strep so i think that my be PANDAS?---- "stephanieweeksymail" <stephanieweeksymail> wrote: > Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about every 6 months...> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Regression - frustration!> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM> > > > > > > > Hey guys,> > > > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).> > > > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?> > > > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!> > > > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.> > > > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?> > > > thanks for listening,> > (mum to 5 year old ASD)> >> >

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What dose are you using?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceDate: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:59:15 -0500To: <mb12 valtrex >Subject: Re: Re: Regression - frustration! I'm not much of a poster as I have asked several times what to do with my increasingly aggressive son. Reviewing another site, I researched oxytocin spray and read about "calming effect" on some autistic children. I think there is also a study going on. Ordered some per DAN doctor through Wellness. Okay- this has been a real WOW for us. Yesterday and today my son came home with school reports that said "super" day instead of how many times he hit and screamed. I realize it is only the 2nd day but so far I'm impressed. Just wanted to share..margie in vaOn Jan 13, 2010, at 8:57 PM, elizabeth.hutchisonbigpond wrote:Hi ,Thanks for your reply. He definitely has Strep so i think that my be PANDAS?---- "stephanieweeksymail" <stephanieweeksymail> wrote: > Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about every 6 months...> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Regression - frustration!> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM> > > > > > > > Hey guys,> > > > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).> > > > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?> > > > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!> > > > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.> > > > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?> > > > thanks for listening,> > (mum to 5 year old ASD)> >> >

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I'm glad you found something that worked for you. We tried the oxytocin spray on my 4-yr old for a solid month & didn't notice a difference, but maybe we'll try it again...

I'm not much of a poster as I have asked several times what to do with my increasingly aggressive son. Reviewing another site, I researched oxytocin spray and read about "calming effect" on some autistic children. I think there is also a study going on. Ordered some per DAN doctor through Wellness. Okay- this has been a real WOW for us. Yesterday and today my son came home with school reports that said "super" day instead of how many times he hit and screamed. I realize it is only the 2nd day but so far I'm impressed. Just wanted to share..margie in vaOn Jan 13, 2010, at 8:57 PM, elizabeth.hutchisonbigpond wrote:Hi ,Thanks for your reply. He definitely has Strep so i think that my be PANDAS?---- "stephanieweeksymail" <stephanieweeksymail> wrote: > Is it possible he has PANDAS? There is a waxing and waning of symptoms with PANDAS and there is usually a sudden onset of symptoms. For us it was about every 6 months...> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Regression - frustration!> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM> > > > > > > > Hey guys,> > > > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).> > > > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?> > > > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!> > > > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.> > > > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?> > > > thanks for listening,> > (mum to 5 year old ASD)> >> >

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sounds like strep flares

Regression - frustration!

Hey guys,Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech and compliance etc).Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them to the point of 'recovery'?We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury, lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious that this will be suitable for him?thanks for listening, (mum to 5 year old ASD)

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If he has strep, he may have pandas which would definitely account for the

regressions (at least part of the story). I would talk to the DAN doctor about

monitoring/eliminating strep. Big difference when eliminated.

> > >

> > >

> > > From: ehutchison1973 <ehutchison1973@>

> > > Subject: Regression - frustration!

> > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hey guys,

> > >

> > > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5

with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex

and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of

doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and

then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly

and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues

to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech

and compliance etc).

> > >

> > > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve

and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them

to the point of 'recovery'?

> > >

> > > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod

liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!

> > >

> > > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury,

lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.

> > >

> > > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option

but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious

that this will be suitable for him?

> > >

> > > thanks for listening,

> > > (mum to 5 year old ASD)

> > >

> >

> >

>

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If he has strep, he may have pandas which would definitely account for the

regressions (at least part of the story). I would talk to the DAN doctor about

monitoring/eliminating strep. Big difference when eliminated.

> > >

> > >

> > > From: ehutchison1973 <ehutchison1973@>

> > > Subject: Regression - frustration!

> > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hey guys,

> > >

> > > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son 5

with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one being valtrex

and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and seems to be at the point of

doing really well (really verbal, great eye contact, hardly any stimming) and

then, BAM, he starts to regress, we go through this cycle constantly

and I start to wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues

to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping, decrease in speech

and compliance etc).

> > >

> > > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve

and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that helped them

to the point of 'recovery'?

> > >

> > > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod

liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list goes on!

> > >

> > > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury,

lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.

> > >

> > > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option

but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we are anxious

that this will be suitable for him?

> > >

> > > thanks for listening,

> > > (mum to 5 year old ASD)

> > >

> >

> >

>

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I tried an OTC version for my son. No change, but it came with two so I tried

it on myself. I feel slightly less anxious when I use it. I have one student

who annoys all of us with his high pitched repetitive noises. When I use the

spray, I find myself hugging him instead of wanting to leave the room. It could

be in my head, but it's true.

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > From: ehutchison1973 <ehutchison1973@>

> >> > > Subject: Regression - frustration!

> >> > > To: mb12 valtrex

> >> > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:34 AM

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Hey guys,

> >> > >

> >> > > Just wondered if anyone else has the same frustration. Our son

> >> 5 with ASD will do well on a particular supplement (the latest one

> >> being valtrex and difflucan-we have been on this for 3 months) and

> >> seems to be at the point of doing really well (really verbal, great

> >> eye contact, hardly any stimming) and then, BAM, he starts

> >> to regress, we go through this cycle constantly and I start to

> >> wonder if we are ever going to get a point when he just continues

> >> to improve instead of regressive behaviours such as flapping,

> >> decrease in speech and compliance etc).

> >> > >

> >> > > Has your child been in this cycle and then started to improve

> >> and keep improving? Was it any particular protocol/supplement that

> >> helped them to the point of 'recovery'?

> >> > >

> >> > > We have tried: MB12 shots, glutathione, valtrex, difflucan, cod

> >> liver, L-carnitine, Metagenics probiotic, OLE, NAET and the list

> >> goes on!

> >> > >

> >> > > We are dealing with: high levels of antimony, arsenic, mercury,

> >> lead, aluminium and Streptococcus overgrowth.

> >> > >

> >> > > At this point we are thinking of trying ALA as our next option

> >> but as our son tends to have a strong reaction to supplements we

> >> are anxious that this will be suitable for him?

> >> > >

> >> > > thanks for listening,

> >> > > (mum to 5 year old ASD)

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

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