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> Next, has anyone anything to say about Kooshies trainer pants? I always

, I used them with DS1. Haven't bothered with DS2 as he learned

very

quickly. They're bulky, but that's the only thing I have against them.

They

were great when DS1 got dry daytime but needed something at night. When

his wee

capacity increased and they started leaking, we bought a roll of

disposable

booster pad from Boots and stuck a wodge in at night time.

Just looked upstairs and can't see them. I've either put them in the

loft or

chucked them. Give me a few days to check. If I can find them, I'll

post them

to you - still got plenty of wear in them.

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> Comments? Recommendations? I have shown him a few in catalogues and he

has

> said " no, take away that potty, frightened! "

We got a seat type which can be a chaair or a potty, for . It's got a

bear face, as the seat back. Would something like this help, as you could

have it as a chair until he got used to it? Went to Toys'R'Us and Children's

world, (now gone) where there was a reasonable choice, and let him have what

he wanted. DS2 (2years, 5 months) has no clue about this toilet lark!

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> Comments? Recommendations? I have shown him a few in catalogues and he

has

> said " no, take away that potty, frightened! "

We got a seat type which can be a chaair or a potty, for . It's got a

bear face, as the seat back. Would something like this help, as you could

have it as a chair until he got used to it? Went to Toys'R'Us and Children's

world, (now gone) where there was a reasonable choice, and let him have what

he wanted. DS2 (2years, 5 months) has no clue about this toilet lark!

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Don't switch to cloth nappies for environmental reasons - they are no better

than disposables. If you want to do something for the environment, you

could try to work on the other 99% of potential landfill waste or try to use

less energy.

Here's a good site if you are interested:

http://www.gozen.demon.co.uk/godric/diaper.html

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> Okay - victory for Miranda time... Having closely analysed the contents

of

> all household bins, and realised that most of the 6 or 7 bags of rubbish

> contain stinky disposable nappies (which we all know is what she was

getting

> at all along ;-)) I have dug out my PHP catalogue to re-evaluate the

> Kooshies option.

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Don't switch to cloth nappies for environmental reasons - they are no better

than disposables. If you want to do something for the environment, you

could try to work on the other 99% of potential landfill waste or try to use

less energy.

Here's a good site if you are interested:

http://www.gozen.demon.co.uk/godric/diaper.html

Joyce

Visit our photo album:

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=170356 & a=1767840

> Okay - victory for Miranda time... Having closely analysed the contents

of

> all household bins, and realised that most of the 6 or 7 bags of rubbish

> contain stinky disposable nappies (which we all know is what she was

getting

> at all along ;-)) I have dug out my PHP catalogue to re-evaluate the

> Kooshies option.

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From: McVeigh !

>Lastly, potties. has a small conventional potty, he will stand

>up and wee into it, but will not sit on it (frightened!). He will not sit

>on toilet either (very frightened).

Have you tried the child size adaptor seat that fits on to a normal loo- you

can get fold up ones to take out with you too. GLTC do both. I realised

with my son [is it a boy thing?] that he was scared of falling down the

pan - probably becuase he infact did get wedged in on occasions at first. So

we got this loo seat, and spent a while putting tedddy [large teddy] on for

a poo. It is the kind with moveable rigid arms and legs so could balance by

itself and of course didnt fall in the hole.

That seemed to work at dispelling the fear although I lived to regret it

when teddy had to have a poo,bottom wipe,sweetie etc every time as well.

Sally Shoolbraid

Torbay & South Devon

Br/Mem/Bookings Sec

Eleanor 6 and 5

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From: McVeigh !

>Lastly, potties. has a small conventional potty, he will stand

>up and wee into it, but will not sit on it (frightened!). He will not sit

>on toilet either (very frightened).

Have you tried the child size adaptor seat that fits on to a normal loo- you

can get fold up ones to take out with you too. GLTC do both. I realised

with my son [is it a boy thing?] that he was scared of falling down the

pan - probably becuase he infact did get wedged in on occasions at first. So

we got this loo seat, and spent a while putting tedddy [large teddy] on for

a poo. It is the kind with moveable rigid arms and legs so could balance by

itself and of course didnt fall in the hole.

That seemed to work at dispelling the fear although I lived to regret it

when teddy had to have a poo,bottom wipe,sweetie etc every time as well.

Sally Shoolbraid

Torbay & South Devon

Br/Mem/Bookings Sec

Eleanor 6 and 5

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>

>Would have to get infant size for Caitlin - lasts up to 10 kg - about what

>age is that in the (slightly smaller than) average baby? She's almost 5

>months now - would I get my money's worth?

about 9-10 months may be more, i'd go with the bigger ones -get a single

sanple first (PHP do these)

I got a bunch of the daiperbasics (need covers) at 1/2 price in Sainsburys

recently (well march/april) I went wityh the larger ones and used them from

then -dunno how this would work with the Ultras though?

Bear in mind Ultras last onlt 120 washes before the waterproofing gives out,

and take *ages* to dry, if you want a cheap easy method then get prefold

nappies & outer covers. V/ quick to dry and adaptable to size, also the

padding is where you need it not round the hips where you don't, Bambino

Mio( www.bambino.co.uk )do these.

Angi

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Hello ,

I brought some Kooshies nappies, I brought only 5 of the small ones because

I thought I would see how I got on before I brought any more. I tried them

a couple of months ago and her wee just came out the side and straight on

the clothes. She is 4 months old now so I am going to try them again and I

will let you know how I get on.

>

> If I decide to use them it would have to be the easiest option, ie

Kooshies

> Ultra - can't be doing with waterproof wraps or booster liners - are these

> good value? £37.50 for 5, need 20 apparently - £150 = 25 packs of

> disposables + extra cost of washing and extra hassle of drying them (no

> tumble drier here) + judging by other people's experience would have to

buy

> the odd pack of disposables too, eg when its pouring with rain!

>

> Would have to get infant size for Caitlin - lasts up to 10 kg - about what

> age is that in the (slightly smaller than) average baby? She's almost 5

> months now - would I get my money's worth?

>

> Next, has anyone anything to say about Kooshies trainer pants? I always

> vowed I wouldn't buy Huggies Pull-ups, but has to have them

for

> nursery as he's not dry and is resisting all attempts to train at present

> (He's 2yrs 8 months BTW). Pull-ups don't help as he just uses them like a

> nappy, and the temptation is for a lazy toad like me just to leave him in

> them all day as they hold so much. Kooshies look like a possible answer,

> but at £8.00 a pair I can see my child benefit rapidly vanishing! Mind

you

> Junior/Extra large nappies and Pull-ups certainly eat into the weekly

> shopping budget too!

>

> Lastly, potties. has a small conventional potty, he will

stand

> up and wee into it, but will not sit on it (frightened!). He will not sit

> on toilet either (very frightened). Nursery teacher suggests a big chair

> type potty with removeable seat that can go onto the toilet seat later on.

> Comments? Recommendations? I have shown him a few in catalogues and he

has

> said " no, take away that potty, frightened! "

>

> Arrrggghhh!

>

>

>

> McVeigh

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I tried the Ultras but didn't like them - they tend to leak around the thighs

and they take forever to dry even in the tumble drier. I use the pre folds and

the nappy wraps - much easier.

McVeigh wrote:

> If I decide to use them it would have to be the easiest option, ie Kooshies

> Ultra - can't be doing with waterproof wraps or booster liners - are these

> good value? £37.50 for 5, need 20 apparently - £150 = 25 packs of

> disposables + extra cost of washing and extra hassle of drying them (no

> tumble drier here) + judging by other people's experience would have to buy

> the odd pack of disposables too, eg when its pouring with rain!

--

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and wife of (26/9/66)

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I tried the Ultras but didn't like them - they tend to leak around the thighs

and they take forever to dry even in the tumble drier. I use the pre folds and

the nappy wraps - much easier.

McVeigh wrote:

> If I decide to use them it would have to be the easiest option, ie Kooshies

> Ultra - can't be doing with waterproof wraps or booster liners - are these

> good value? £37.50 for 5, need 20 apparently - £150 = 25 packs of

> disposables + extra cost of washing and extra hassle of drying them (no

> tumble drier here) + judging by other people's experience would have to buy

> the odd pack of disposables too, eg when its pouring with rain!

--

Dick,

SAHM to (7/4/97) and Kitty (22/7/99)

and wife of (26/9/66)

Newsletter Editor, Advertising manager

MSLC Rep - Alton, Bordon and District

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I tried the Ultras but didn't like them - they tend to leak around the thighs

and they take forever to dry even in the tumble drier. I use the pre folds and

the nappy wraps - much easier.

McVeigh wrote:

> If I decide to use them it would have to be the easiest option, ie Kooshies

> Ultra - can't be doing with waterproof wraps or booster liners - are these

> good value? £37.50 for 5, need 20 apparently - £150 = 25 packs of

> disposables + extra cost of washing and extra hassle of drying them (no

> tumble drier here) + judging by other people's experience would have to buy

> the odd pack of disposables too, eg when its pouring with rain!

--

Dick,

SAHM to (7/4/97) and Kitty (22/7/99)

and wife of (26/9/66)

Newsletter Editor, Advertising manager

MSLC Rep - Alton, Bordon and District

See pictures of us all at:

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=848605 & a=6171291

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>Have you tried the child size adaptor seat that fits on to a normal loo-

you

>can get fold up ones to take out with you too. GLTC do both. >That seemed

to work at dispelling the fear although I lived to regret it

>when teddy had to have a poo,bottom wipe,sweetie etc every time as well.

Yes we have one, second hand, not a great fit and doesn't look very comfy.

Think I will get a new one. The teddy idea is a good one though...

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>Have you tried the child size adaptor seat that fits on to a normal loo-

you

>can get fold up ones to take out with you too. GLTC do both. >That seemed

to work at dispelling the fear although I lived to regret it

>when teddy had to have a poo,bottom wipe,sweetie etc every time as well.

Yes we have one, second hand, not a great fit and doesn't look very comfy.

Think I will get a new one. The teddy idea is a good one though...

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>Have you tried the child size adaptor seat that fits on to a normal loo-

you

>can get fold up ones to take out with you too. GLTC do both. >That seemed

to work at dispelling the fear although I lived to regret it

>when teddy had to have a poo,bottom wipe,sweetie etc every time as well.

Yes we have one, second hand, not a great fit and doesn't look very comfy.

Think I will get a new one. The teddy idea is a good one though...

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>Just looked upstairs and can't see them. I've either put them in the

>loft or

>chucked them. Give me a few days to check. If I can find them, I'll

>post them

>to you - still got plenty of wear in them.

>

>Lesley Moor

Thanks, this is very kind! Name your price - or a donation to NCT?

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>Just looked upstairs and can't see them. I've either put them in the

>loft or

>chucked them. Give me a few days to check. If I can find them, I'll

>post them

>to you - still got plenty of wear in them.

>

>Lesley Moor

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>Just looked upstairs and can't see them. I've either put them in the

>loft or

>chucked them. Give me a few days to check. If I can find them, I'll

>post them

>to you - still got plenty of wear in them.

>

>Lesley Moor

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Yes! I too have been feeling guilty at the amount of rubbish disposables create

and I've been umming and arring about buying kooshies. They are more

environmentally friendly, they're kinder to baby's skin, it should work out

cheaper BUT will I get my act together and actually use them and soak them and

wash them and hang them to dry...... sounds like a lot of extra work and if

there are disposables in the house the temptation of using them 'just this once'

will be great!

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Okay - victory for Miranda time... Having closely analysed the contents of

all household bins, and realised that most of the 6 or 7 bags of rubbish

contain stinky disposable nappies (which we all know is what she was getting

at all along ;-)) I have dug out my PHP catalogue to re-evaluate the

Kooshies option.

If I decide to use them it would have to be the easiest option, ie Kooshies

Ultra - can't be doing with waterproof wraps or booster liners - are these

good value? £37.50 for 5, need 20 apparently - £150 = 25 packs of

disposables + extra cost of washing and extra hassle of drying them (no

tumble drier here) + judging by other people's experience would have to buy

the odd pack of disposables too, eg when its pouring with rain!>>

No problems with drying here - it's 28C and rising and constant sunshine!

Are the prefolds Kooshies too? I must check my catalogue.

Talking of Kooshies catalogue have you noticed that in the 2000 one they sell an

'antibacterial nappy soak' for £5 is it? (I forget) whereas previously they

advised to simply soak in water and bicarbonate of soda! Why the change I

wonder????

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Bear in mind Ultras take *ages* to dry.>>

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I tried the Ultras but didn't like them - they tend to leak around the

thighs

and they take forever to dry even in the tumble drier. I use the pre folds

and

the nappy wraps - much easier.>>

Janet

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Yes! I too have been feeling guilty at the amount of rubbish disposables create

and I've been umming and arring about buying kooshies. They are more

environmentally friendly, they're kinder to baby's skin, it should work out

cheaper BUT will I get my act together and actually use them and soak them and

wash them and hang them to dry...... sounds like a lot of extra work and if

there are disposables in the house the temptation of using them 'just this once'

will be great!

<<

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Okay - victory for Miranda time... Having closely analysed the contents of

all household bins, and realised that most of the 6 or 7 bags of rubbish

contain stinky disposable nappies (which we all know is what she was getting

at all along ;-)) I have dug out my PHP catalogue to re-evaluate the

Kooshies option.

If I decide to use them it would have to be the easiest option, ie Kooshies

Ultra - can't be doing with waterproof wraps or booster liners - are these

good value? £37.50 for 5, need 20 apparently - £150 = 25 packs of

disposables + extra cost of washing and extra hassle of drying them (no

tumble drier here) + judging by other people's experience would have to buy

the odd pack of disposables too, eg when its pouring with rain!>>

No problems with drying here - it's 28C and rising and constant sunshine!

Are the prefolds Kooshies too? I must check my catalogue.

Talking of Kooshies catalogue have you noticed that in the 2000 one they sell an

'antibacterial nappy soak' for £5 is it? (I forget) whereas previously they

advised to simply soak in water and bicarbonate of soda! Why the change I

wonder????

<<

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Bear in mind Ultras take *ages* to dry.>>

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I tried the Ultras but didn't like them - they tend to leak around the

thighs

and they take forever to dry even in the tumble drier. I use the pre folds

and

the nappy wraps - much easier.>>

Janet

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Yes! I too have been feeling guilty at the amount of rubbish disposables create

and I've been umming and arring about buying kooshies. They are more

environmentally friendly, they're kinder to baby's skin, it should work out

cheaper BUT will I get my act together and actually use them and soak them and

wash them and hang them to dry...... sounds like a lot of extra work and if

there are disposables in the house the temptation of using them 'just this once'

will be great!

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Okay - victory for Miranda time... Having closely analysed the contents of

all household bins, and realised that most of the 6 or 7 bags of rubbish

contain stinky disposable nappies (which we all know is what she was getting

at all along ;-)) I have dug out my PHP catalogue to re-evaluate the

Kooshies option.

If I decide to use them it would have to be the easiest option, ie Kooshies

Ultra - can't be doing with waterproof wraps or booster liners - are these

good value? £37.50 for 5, need 20 apparently - £150 = 25 packs of

disposables + extra cost of washing and extra hassle of drying them (no

tumble drier here) + judging by other people's experience would have to buy

the odd pack of disposables too, eg when its pouring with rain!>>

No problems with drying here - it's 28C and rising and constant sunshine!

Are the prefolds Kooshies too? I must check my catalogue.

Talking of Kooshies catalogue have you noticed that in the 2000 one they sell an

'antibacterial nappy soak' for £5 is it? (I forget) whereas previously they

advised to simply soak in water and bicarbonate of soda! Why the change I

wonder????

<<

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Bear in mind Ultras take *ages* to dry.>>

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Subject: Re: Nappies, potties, pants

I tried the Ultras but didn't like them - they tend to leak around the

thighs

and they take forever to dry even in the tumble drier. I use the pre folds

and

the nappy wraps - much easier.>>

Janet

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Yes! I too have been feeling guilty at the amount of rubbish disposables create

and I've been umming and arring about buying kooshies. They are more

environmentally friendly, they're kinder to baby's skin, it should work out

cheaper BUT will I get my act together and actually use them and soak them and

wash them and hang them to dry...... sounds like a lot of extra work and if

there are disposables in the house the temptation of using them 'just this once'

will be great!

........but have you considered the number of times you have to make a special

trip out to get nappies, the effort of lugging them back from the shops, the

effort involved in putting your nappies in your bin is the same as putting

washables in a bin (you don't have to soak), emptying your waste bin nto a bin

bag/wheely bin/dustbin is now more effort than emptying your nappy bin into the

washing machine and lugging your bin bags/wheely bin/dustbin to the roadside

might be marginly less effort than hanging washing on the line - and if you just

have bin bags then you haven't got a wheely bin to put back after its been

emptied so there is more effort saved there...I'm sorry I just don't see that

there IS a lot of extra work - my washing machine does the work.

Things have changed since people washed terries by hand or in a twin tub, but

sadly the marketing men (who get paid a fortune - thats another reason

disposables are so expensive here compared to France for example) would have you

think otherwise. I suppose it justifies their money, they've obviously done a

good job in convincing the public what an effort it is to wash nappies, and thus

how much 'easier' disposables are. Now the vast majority use disposables of

course the price has gone through the roof to produce vast profits.....

Personally I think its a faff to go shopping with the car, finding a parking

place where you can get the door open wide enough, much easier to load

everything into a basket and wizz round the shop with the pushchair than go with

a trolley - finding one with straps, loading and unloading it into the car. But

everyone to their own eh?

Miranda

www.twinkleontheweb.co.uk

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