Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 We like better anyway Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 I meant Huggies (Damm spell check) Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 They can't be exactly the same huggies holds better not as easy for him to take off. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 Just as an FYI - I think you mean Huggies? Both Huggies and Pampers are products of the Proctor & Gamble company. Literally the same product, different packaging and style. The corporate office of Proctor & Gamble would be the very best place to voice complaints in regards to the Pampers newsletter. --- In , charliesteele222@a... wrote: > We like better anyway > > Charlie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 You can submit your comments at <http://www.pampers.com/en_US/utility/jhtml/talkpampersmain.jhtml> and <http://www.pg.com/contact_us/contact1.jhtml?toolbar=/includes/ltb_main.jhtm l> Lynne > A friend of mine just forwarded me the Papmers E-Newsletter she > received today. It is so sad that so many parents will receive this > misleading and false information. Shame on Pampers. > > > > More Good News About Vaccines > > The News: A new study funded by the National Institutes of Health > examined the safety of children's vaccines containing thimerosal, a > mercury-based preservative. Thimerosal is no longer used in vaccines > in the United States given to children younger than 6 months. > > Researchers at the University of Rochester in New York examined > blood, stool, and urine levels of mercury in infants given thimerosal- > containing vaccines and compared them with infants who had mercury- > free vaccines. Only one of the non-exposed children had detectable > levels of mercury. In children who had thimerosal-containing > vaccines, the scientists found levels of mercury ranging > from " undetectable " up to 10 times below the lower limit acceptable > by federal standards. In other words, the amounts were well below > those reported to cause problems. > > The scientists also reported that the mercury left the body quickly, > in the first few days after vaccination, mostly through the stool. > (The Lancet, vol. 360 [Nov. 30, 2002]: pp. 1737-1741) > > Comment by Loraine Stern, M.D.: Mark Twain said, " How easy it is to > make people believe a lie and how hard it is to undo that work > again. " Vocal opponents of immunization have been claiming that > thimerosal in vaccines causes autism in children. Yet after more than > three years of thimerosal-free vaccines, there has not been any > decline in the number of diagnoses of autistic disorders, and study > after study refutes the connection between vaccines and autism. > Sadly, lawyers and others seem to hold onto their beliefs. > > Vaccines are one of the medical miracles of our time, and the > enormous benefits they offer—protecting our children against > dangerous, even deadly diseases—far outweigh the risks. Talk to your > pediatrician if you have any questions about immunizations. > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 > Thought the Mark Twain quote was in exceptionally bad taste > going so bold as calling what we believe a " lie " . > " How easy it is to > make people believe a lie and how hard it is to undo that work > again. " I would say that applies both ways Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 " How easy it is to make people believe a lie and how hard it is to undo that work again " HMMM lets see who is lying, " thimerosal has been out of vaccines for 3 years and the autism rates have not dropped " That is a whooper! It can be turned around and stuffed in their faces as well. I say we all boycott Pampers and tell our friends and family to as well. If they where smart business people, they would be supporting the autistic community since our children potty train later then the typical world. My son is 6 and still not trained nor will be any time soon. They have had my money for years now and it would have continued for years, but after this? Not a chance! Re: [ ] Pampers Newsletter > Thought the Mark Twain quote was in exceptionally bad taste > going so bold as calling what we believe a " lie " . .. " I would say that applies both ways Valentina ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 I was unable to find an email address for Dr. Loraine Stern. However I did find: office (661) 255-2229 fax (661) 255-5475 25050 Peachland Ave # 104, Newhall, CA 91321 I'm faxing her a letter commenting on the difficulties of " How easy it is to make people believe a lie and how hard it is to undo that work again. " You can also send comments directly to Pampers at <pampers.im@...>. Lynne > You can submit your comments at > <http://www.pampers.com/en_US/utility/jhtml/talkpampersmain.jhtml> > and > <http://www.pg.com/contact_us/contact1.jhtml?toolbar=/includes/ltb_main.jhtml> > > Lynne > > A friend of mine just forwarded me the Papmers E-Newsletter she > received today. It is so sad that so many parents will receive this > misleading and false information. Shame on Pampers. > > More Good News About Vaccines > > The News: A new study funded by the National Institutes of Health > examined the safety of children's vaccines containing thimerosal, a > mercury-based preservative. Thimerosal is no longer used in vaccines > in the United States given to children younger than 6 months. > > Researchers at the University of Rochester in New York examined > blood, stool, and urine levels of mercury in infants given thimerosal- > containing vaccines and compared them with infants who had mercury- > free vaccines. Only one of the non-exposed children had detectable > levels of mercury. In children who had thimerosal-containing > vaccines, the scientists found levels of mercury ranging > from " undetectable " up to 10 times below the lower limit acceptable > by federal standards. In other words, the amounts were well below > those reported to cause problems. > > The scientists also reported that the mercury left the body quickly, > in the first few days after vaccination, mostly through the stool. > (The Lancet, vol. 360 [Nov. 30, 2002]: pp. 1737-1741) > > Comment by Loraine Stern, M.D.: Mark Twain said, " How easy it is to > make people believe a lie and how hard it is to undo that work > again. " Vocal opponents of immunization have been claiming that > thimerosal in vaccines causes autism in children. Yet after more than > three years of thimerosal-free vaccines, there has not been any > decline in the number of diagnoses of autistic disorders, and study > after study refutes the connection between vaccines and autism. > Sadly, lawyers and others seem to hold onto their beliefs. > > Vaccines are one of the medical miracles of our time, and the > enormous benefits they offer—protecting our children against > dangerous, even deadly diseases—far outweigh the risks. Talk to your > pediatrician if you have any questions about immunizations. > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2002 Report Share Posted December 21, 2002 Can someone explain a) how the NIH and the University of Rochester were allegedly able to do a study on the effects of thimerosal in vaccines given to infants if " thimerosal is no longer used in vaccines in the United States given to children younger than six months " ? how they could assess the results that the mercury excreted was from " undetectable to up to 10 times below the lower limit acceptable by federal standards " and think that was good? Isn't it the lack of natural mercury excretion and the effects caused by mercury in the body that we're all struggling against? c) how an " unexposed " child had detectable limits of mercury, and why the writers would use the term " only " as though one child having detectable mercury is acceptable? d) why anyone should listen to Loraine Stern, an Associate Clinical Professor in the Department of Pediatrics at the UCLA School of Medicine, quoting Mark Twain with respect to thimerosal-induced autism? Considering that we have not been free of thimerosal- containing vaccines for three years, as Dr. Stern implies, and autism is often not " diagnosed " until children are three years old, why would anyone assume that there would have been a decline in autism diagnoses by this time? If anyone has more details (ages of and number of children, number and which vaccines were given over what period of time, etc.) on the study published in the Lancet cited below, please post them or reply with the number of a previous post if that info is already on the board. Thanks. Thanks. > A friend of mine just forwarded me the Papmers E-Newsletter she > received today. It is so sad that so many parents will receive this > misleading and false information. Shame on Pampers. > > > > More Good News About Vaccines > > The News: A new study funded by the National Institutes of Health > examined the safety of children's vaccines containing thimerosal, a > mercury-based preservative. Thimerosal is no longer used in vaccines > in the United States given to children younger than 6 months. > > Researchers at the University of Rochester in New York examined > blood, stool, and urine levels of mercury in infants given thimerosal- > containing vaccines and compared them with infants who had mercury- > free vaccines. Only one of the non-exposed children had detectable > levels of mercury. In children who had thimerosal-containing > vaccines, the scientists found levels of mercury ranging > from " undetectable " up to 10 times below the lower limit acceptable > by federal standards. In other words, the amounts were well below > those reported to cause problems. > > The scientists also reported that the mercury left the body quickly, > in the first few days after vaccination, mostly through the stool. > (The Lancet, vol. 360 [Nov. 30, 2002]: pp. 1737-1741) > > Comment by Loraine Stern, M.D.: Mark Twain said, " How easy it is to > make people believe a lie and how hard it is to undo that work > again. " Vocal opponents of immunization have been claiming that > thimerosal in vaccines causes autism in children. Yet after more than > three years of thimerosal-free vaccines, there has not been any > decline in the number of diagnoses of autistic disorders, and study > after study refutes the connection between vaccines and autism. > Sadly, lawyers and others seem to hold onto their beliefs. > > Vaccines are one of the medical miracles of our time, and the > enormous benefits they offer—protecting our children against > dangerous, even deadly diseases—far outweigh the risks. Talk to your > pediatrician if you have any questions about immunizations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2002 Report Share Posted December 21, 2002 You can read the Lancet article at <http://www.thelancet.com/journal/current>. Lynne > If anyone has more details (ages of and number of children, number > and which vaccines were given over what period of time, etc.) on the > study published in the Lancet cited below, please post them or reply > with the number of a previous post if that info is already on the > board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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