Re: residental detox center //Re: the cause of all problems

[Guest guest]

Moria,

I think those estimates are " too long " . I think 1 to 2 years

is expected, and 3 is a lot. Adjusted for long breaks (e.g.

if you take a year off in the middle....)

Glad to hear/think I may have over estimated.

my questions for you are:

would you move your whole family to this retreat center?

no

how many people is that?

One parent per child

How would the other children (if any) be affected by the move?

Not as badly as the child that is already affected. Atleast you can try

to reason to them and make it up in other ways. Plus they could visit on

wkends or monthly perhaps.

whould the retreat center have schools for ALL the children?

No, just ASD

would you sell your house (if you own one)?

That is of course a personal decision. I imagine single parents might

consider it, then again if they can afford not too.

would you and/or your partner (if any) work while living at this center?

One parent per child. If you have only one child and a partner, your

partner I imagine would stay home and work and visit as often as

desired. The parent staying with the child would be “working” in a

sense, (as the child’s personal assistant/nutritionist/educational

”shadow”, etc…)

would you and/or your partner (if any) be able to find work in your

current profession while living at this center?

The parent with the child would not be earning any money. Imagine the

retreat would most likely only exist if funded by private donations, as

I wouldn’t hold my breath for grants from our government. Maybe a dozen

corporations could foot the bill, any know Bill Gates personally.

I will go visit OHI, as I am just 2hrs. above them.

Ron

[Guest guest]

I do know of someone that runs a B & B in middle missouri, serves what she has

raised/grown and buys organic. She use to work with Giant Steps in St. Louis.

She does Cranial Sacral therapy, massage, Reiki, Touch For Health, and I

can't remember what else she offers, but we're going there next summer for

atleast a weekend (she use to work on my son 'till we moved, and they moved

at the same time). I figure it's the perfect weekend atleast.

" moriamerri " wrote:

> Hi Ron,

>

> > I'm thinking for those of us that live in urban areas, our kids are

> just

> > taking in too many toxins, through the constant smog and grocery

> store

> > food, to make decent progress.

> > What is Andy's latest SWAG 3 to 4 yrs. of chelation on a 3/4

> schedule,

> > those that can't have to do 3/11, so what is that 8yrs. Maybe some

> are

> > lucky and can do the rare 5/5.

>

> I think those estimates are " too long " . I think 1 to 2 years

> is expected, and 3 is a lot. Adjusted for long breaks (e.g.

> if you take a year off in the middle....)

>

> >

> > There needs to be built a Autism Center Retreat, (obviously many of

> them

> > across America) somewhere in the suburbs, mountains etc..of every

> major

> > city, free from the smog. Where a parent can go with there child

> and

> > stay for months, eat only organic prepared food and have schooling

> and

> > therapies (ot/spch) available to them.

>

> I am VERY curious about your idea, because I have though about

> a number of things along these lines. I just find the ideas sort

> of " come up " . I've thought of " communal " living facilities for

> families, where everyone is chelating together. I've thought

> of medical-type-clinics with a " hotel " or " apartment building "

> where you can stay for a while. I've thought of " retreats " where

> you go for longer.

>

> BUT..... when I've thought of these for very long, I have very

> seriously wondered whether any of them would be workable or

> helpful. I am not saying they would NOT be, I am saying I

> have questions about some aspects. So, Ron, (or others),

> my questions for you are:

>

> would you move your whole family to this retreat center?

> how many people is that?

> How would the other children (if any) be affected by the move?

> whould the retreat center have schools for ALL the children?

> would you sell your house (if you own one)?

> would you and/or your partner (if any) work while living at

> this center?

> would you and/or your partner (if any) be able to find work in

> your current profession while living at this center?

>

> I suppose a lot of these questions amount to " funding " questions.

> Maybe you are imagining something different than I am.

> If there were UNLIMITED money, and everyone (the whole family)

> could live there " for free " , and no one needs to " work " , then

> it would seem a lot easier to figure these things out.

>

> There are also some specific locations that are more " ASD

> friendly " (already) in terms of schools and services. These

> places would seem to me to be good places to try to develop

> any sort of " retreat " or more comprehensive living/treatment

> situation.

>

> I also have some fairly way-out fantasies about treatment

> in existing facilities (such as the institutions where some

> ASD children and adults already now live, and mental

> institutions). I would be very happy to have any hand

> in bringing metal testing to these places, and treatment,

> to these places. I think about these people sometimes.

>

> I do not mean this post to IN ANY WAY sound " discouraging "

> or " negative " . I am continuing on with some of the ideas

> you raised.

>

> Also, in terms of examples of retreats, there is an existing

> organization that always comes to mind for me: the Optimal

> Health Institute (located near San Diego CA). It is NOT

> invovled with chelation at all. But it is a residental

> program, and it is provided at a very reasonable cost.

> It is housed in about 4 buildings or so, including at least

> one which used to be an apartment building. It has a

> small garden, a large greenhouse, a building with classrooms,

> and some specialized rooms to serve the needs of their program.

> It is a non-profit organization. The prices are extremely

> reasonable. The staff is small. They have a program for

> people who want to live there for an extended time whereby

> these people can work for a large part (maybe all, I don't

> remember) of their fees. They take a limited number of people

> who apply for this program. These people do much of the kitchen

> work and routine housekeeping for the facility. The place

> is simple, not fancy. I think it is run with a lot of intention

> and love. I have only been there once, for a week, but I

> found these aspects interesting.

>

> best wishes,

> Moria

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Andy had a post on 12-24-02 with the swag of 1½ to 4 years. This was if

you were doing a 3/11 schedule. Previous posts he has suggested (swag)

it might take 35 to 100 rounds. Hope this helps. I live by Andy’s

swags.

(Ian’s mom, will complete 35th round tonight)

RE: [ ] residental detox center //Re: the cause of

all problems

Moria,

I think those estimates are " too long " . I think 1 to 2 years

is expected, and 3 is a lot. Adjusted for long breaks (e.g.

if you take a year off in the middle....)

Glad to hear/think I may have over estimated.

my questions for you are:

would you move your whole family to this retreat center?

no

how many people is that?

One parent per child

How would the other children (if any) be affected by the move?

Not as badly as the child that is already affected. Atleast you can try

to reason to them and make it up in other ways. Plus they could visit on

wkends or monthly perhaps.

whould the retreat center have schools for ALL the children?

No, just ASD

would you sell your house (if you own one)?

That is of course a personal decision. I imagine single parents might

consider it, then again if they can afford not too.

would you and/or your partner (if any) work while living at this center?

One parent per child. If you have only one child and a partner, your

partner I imagine would stay home and work and visit as often as

desired. The parent staying with the child would be “working” in a

sense, (as the child’s personal assistant/nutritionist/educational

”shadow”, etc…)

would you and/or your partner (if any) be able to find work in your

current profession while living at this center?

The parent with the child would not be earning any money. Imagine the

retreat would most likely only exist if funded by private donations, as

I wouldn’t hold my breath for grants from our government. Maybe a dozen

corporations could foot the bill, any know Bill Gates personally.

I will go visit OHI, as I am just 2hrs. above them.

Ron