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For anyone, how do you decide whether to start with DMSA, then add ALA, or

just go with ALA? (information gathering for starting chelation soon)

Thanks for your input,

Michele

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In a message dated 1/2/03 9:07:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, val@...

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<< DMSA was waaaaaaaay to expensive for me.

Valentina >>

I'm hearing a lot about this...how expensive is DMSA (prescription &

otherwise)? If gotten by prescription, can it be covered by insurance?

Thanks,

Michele

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In a message dated 1/2/03 8:22:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

imginzburg@... writes:

<< We had the blood erithrocites test (GSDL) done, and saw high mercury

and silver in the blood, that's why we decided to start with DMSA to

avoid the redistribution. I think we got that result because I

stopped breastfeeding (and I had amalgams) only 4 months before the

test. I think, if you suspect any recent exposure, you better start

with DMSA.

Margaret >>

We just had blood work; wish I had known to ask for that one. It was too

difficult & I won't take him back to get stuck again anytime soon. He was

nursed (I have amalgams too), but he's been weaned for years now. And he's

not been vaccinated for much longer than that ( & won't be again), so I'm not

so sure of recent exposure.

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Michele

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> His hair test showed nothing reg. metals, but showed very poor

mineral

> absorption which Andy pointed out displays mercury toxicity issues.

okay.

>

> I can't say whether he's had recent exposure for sure except that

he's not

> been vaccinated for many years, isn't being nursed for years anymore

(I have

> amalgams), & doesn't eat fish. I don't know what else could cause an

exposure

> to mercury for him now.

you covered the biggies there. This caution is largely for

folks who have done (or in process) of amalgam replacement.

but good to say it in a general way, in case of recent vaxs.

> I believe getting DMSA won't be an issue, & he's been tested & his

liver is

> fine. I've also started him on milk thistle for extra support. I'm

leaning

> toward starting with DMSA & adding ALA in later on,

that is fine.

> but if I can't

get

> support for using DMSA I may try starting with ALA alone.

that is also fine.

>

> Another question - how long after starting DMSA is best to start

adding in

> ALA?

well, if you think which chelation agent is sort of " a vague

answer " , let me assure you that " when to add ALA " is also

" a vague answer " . No hard and fast rules. If you see progress

on DMSA that then stops progressing, that is a good time to

consider adding ALA (or consider if it is yeast LOL). I

think I've also heard after 8 rounds or after 3 months.

Some (or many?) DAN docs use blood or urine tests to decide.

This is ALL really " pretty vague " as far as I can tell.

There is no exact criteria, and you have a lot of leeway.

[Note to readers: if Michele's child has high hair copper,

or recent exposure, I would not think this quite so open

ended.]

another angle is that you do not want to wait terribly long

to add ALA. It is what gets the mercury out of the brain.

You indicate that mercury is the only toxic metal at issue,

so this is what you are going after. ALA is the essential

chelation agent, the others are " extra " .

best wishes,

Moria

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> << DMSA was waaaaaaaay to expensive for me.

>

> Valentina >>

>

> I'm hearing a lot about this...how expensive is DMSA (prescription &

> otherwise)? If gotten by prescription, can it be covered by

insurance?

Hi Michele,

check out the price examples here:

/files/HOW_TO_buy_DMSA

There are prices for both OTC and Rx.

OTC is much cheaper than Rx.

Insurance ***might*** pay for Rx.

Then it depens on how much ins pays, of course. You will have

to figure it out for your own situation. And, if you have some

" method " to know what insurance company will do, please share.

With my ins co there is no telling.

ALA is MUCH cheaper than OTC DMSA.

In order of cheap to expensive:

ALA

DMSA OTC

DMSA Rx

DMPS

best wishes,

Moria

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