Re: Pinworm (was grinding teeth)

[Guest guest]

Lissy,

What finally worked to rid the pinworms for you?

Thanks,

Jill G.

[Guest guest]

Pin-X,which is OTC but rather expensive, I think. There is another

med called " Reese's " that is the same active ingredient.

One dose for my kids and hubby.

3 doses for me (at two week intervals). I take some low-dose

immunosuppressant meds, so I am probably a juicy target for many

different parasites. Or maybe it is harder for adults to get rid of

it?? Don't know. I do know Pin-X tastes really bad. . . two person

job to get it into an ASD kid if she/he doesn't take meds well.

--Lissy

-- In , jmg <jajgelm@s...> wrote:

> Lissy,

> What finally worked to rid the pinworms for you?

> Thanks,

> Jill G.

[Guest guest]

Forgot to add: I have become hypervigilant about housekeeping---

apparently those eggs can last a long time. We are currently

replacing carpet with hard-surface flooring that can be cleaned more

thoroughly (and no antimony!). If someone in household has current

infection, all undies washed in HOT water and bleached. When taking

sheets off beds to wash, be careful not to shake about the room.

Fold inward into a pile and stick in washer just like that. Some

sources recommend vaccuming with no one else in the room and with you

wearing a mask----eggs are very light and can become airborne,

breathed in and ingested that way.

--Lissy

[Guest guest]

Lissy,

Can't thank you enough.

Jill

" alusin009 " wrote:

> Forgot to add: I have become hypervigilant about housekeeping---

> apparently those eggs can last a long time. We are currently

> replacing carpet with hard-surface flooring that can be cleaned more

> thoroughly (and no antimony!). If someone in household has current

> infection, all undies washed in HOT water and bleached. When taking

> sheets off beds to wash, be careful not to shake about the room.

> Fold inward into a pile and stick in washer just like that. Some

> sources recommend vaccuming with no one else in the room and with you

> wearing a mask----eggs are very light and can become airborne,

> breathed in and ingested that way.

>

> --Lissy

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

No problem. Hey, if you can't talk about the worms in your butt with

a couple thousand of your closest friends, what's free speech worth

anyway??

:^p Lissy

-- In , jmg <jajgelm@s...> wrote:

> Lissy,

> Can't thank you enough.

> Jill

>

> " alusin009 " wrote:

>

> > Forgot to add: I have become hypervigilant about housekeeping---

> > apparently those eggs can last a long time. We are currently

> > replacing carpet with hard-surface flooring that can be cleaned

more

> > thoroughly (and no antimony!). If someone in household has

current

> > infection, all undies washed in HOT water and bleached. When

taking

> > sheets off beds to wash, be careful not to shake about the room.

> > Fold inward into a pile and stick in washer just like that. Some

> > sources recommend vaccuming with no one else in the room and with

you

> > wearing a mask----eggs are very light and can become airborne,

> > breathed in and ingested that way.

> >

> > --Lissy

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

I needed a good laugh!!

Jill

[Guest guest]

> OMG - you are too funny!!!! Ok, that was me about the worm thing, this all

started with teeth grinding. Are you saying she possibly has pin worms, bc she

is grinding her teeth?

Just trying to clarify this thing here. I remember reading the posts now!!!!

Flash light and " they only come out at night " , is this the right one?

Karyn

> From: " alusin009 <spear009@...> " <spear009@...>

> Date: 2003/01/01 Wed PM 07:59:00 EST

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> Subject: [ ] Pinworm (was grinding teeth)

>

>

[Guest guest]

excellent info, I've never heard of people getting these before, however since

my dd was dx'd, nothing surprises me anymore.

Karyn

>

> From: jmg <jajgelm@...>

> Date: 2003/01/01 Wed PM 09:20:58 EST

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Pinworm (was grinding teeth)

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I'm laughing my " butt " off, right about now!!!!

Karyn

> From: " alusin009 <spear009@...> " <spear009@...>

> Date: 2003/01/01 Wed PM 09:59:14 EST

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Pinworm (was grinding teeth)

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > OMG - you are too funny!!!! Ok, that was me about the worm thing,

this all started with teeth grinding. Are you saying she possibly has

pin worms, bc she is grinding her teeth?

Yes. We tried upping the supplements first, tho. Try to see the worms

with the flashlight at night or put on the sticky tape. Notice if

your child is itching there a lot. (They itch horrendously,

especially right as you are trying to go to sleep.)

> Just trying to clarify this thing here. I remember reading the

posts now!!!! Flash light and " they only come out at night " , is this

the right one?

Yup.

--Lissy

>

> Karyn

[Guest guest]

Ok, I'm ROFLMAO!

I have another question though, been following this with interest...

any other symptoms? My son has foul breath that keeps coming and

going. He has increased in licking his toys the last few days as

well as the tooth grinding thing. He gets zinc supps and I added

magnesium, but these don't seem to be affecting it.

Lynn

> No problem. Hey, if you can't talk about the worms in your butt

with

> a couple thousand of your closest friends, what's free speech

worth

> anyway??

>

> :^p Lissy

[Guest guest]

> any other symptoms?

very itchy nose once a month or something like that, for a few days... Also,

the anal red ring.

Valentina

[Guest guest]

Not that I noticed----except maybe a general " itchness " all over, that

did not appear to be dry skin and was not relieved by lotion. One of

her first phrases (as they started to come in with chelation) was " got

an itchy. "

>

> I have another question though, been following this with interest...

>

> any other symptoms? My son has foul breath that keeps coming and

> going. He has increased in licking his toys the last few days as

> well as the tooth grinding thing. He gets zinc supps and I added

> magnesium, but these don't seem to be affecting it.

>

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

stomach flora probelms, yeast, bad nacteria... i think yeast can

affect the skin as well...

gse, no fenol, oregano oilzinc picolinate...

>

> Not that I noticed----except maybe a general " itchness " all over,

that

> did not appear to be dry skin and was not relieved by lotion. One

of

> her first phrases (as they started to come in with chelation)

was " got

> an itchy. "

>

>

> >

> > I have another question though, been following this with

interest...

> >

> > any other symptoms? My son has foul breath that keeps coming and

> > going. He has increased in licking his toys the last few days as

> > well as the tooth grinding thing. He gets zinc supps and I added

> > magnesium, but these don't seem to be affecting it.

> >

> > Lynn

> >

[Guest guest]

> any other symptoms? My son has foul breath that keeps coming and

> going. He has increased in licking his toys the last few days as

> well as the tooth grinding thing.

For one of my kids, these symptoms would mean he is eating a bad

food/supplement, or he has a yeast issue.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I looked all over the place for the Pin-x that Lissy had explained. NO one

here in the sticks carries it. I did find out that GSE works just as well

though. I knew T had yeast, but was more concerned with the teeth grinding that

was something very new to her. However, I'm " scorching the earth " with GSE and

it seems that the symptoms are going away, all except the hyperactivity -

probably die off. She's getting better so we'll start over again with all the

probiotics.

Karyn

> From: " danaatty <danaatty@...> " <danaatty@...>

> Date: 2003/01/04 Sat PM 12:46:17 EST

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Pinworm (was grinding teeth)

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> > I looked all over the place for the Pin-x that Lissy had

explained. NO one here in the sticks carries it. I did find out that

GSE works just as well though. I knew T had yeast, but was more

concerned with the teeth grinding that was something very new to her.

However, I'm " scorching the earth " with GSE and it seems that the

symptoms are going away, all except the hyperactivity - probably die

off. She's getting better so we'll start over again with all the

probiotics.

GSE is high phenol, so the hyper you are seeing might be from that.

You can try reducing the dose of GSE, or consider adding No-Fenol

enzyme

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

[Guest guest]

> YUP!!!! I'm actually only giving her 1 drop in the am and 1 in the pm with a

No-Fenol each time. I think it's just cuz her little body's all wierd right now.

I always know (NOW anyways) when she has yeast or something else going on by her

behaviors and bms. I've learned alot from you.

Thanks so much!!!

Karyn

> From: " danaatty <danaatty@...> " <danaatty@...>

> Date: 2003/01/09 Thu AM 10:18:07 EST

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Pinworm (was grinding teeth)

>

>

[Guest guest]

I noticed this message and am curious--i did not see any pinworms in

my son's stool. Would you be able to see the worms pass in the

stool? He has been grinding his teeth for several months and had

fitfull sleep. He says his bottom is " hot " but not itchy. Any

advice? Also, I bought PINX but haven't given it as it contains

aluminum. Thanks for help.

> Someone just asked me how to know if their child had pinworm and

my

> return message keeps bouncing back, so here goes:

>

> I would first consider if there was a " route of infection " . My

> daughter, who attends two preschool settings, started putting her

> hands in her mouth a lot (she had never even sucked her thumb in

the

> past) because she had molars coming in. Pinworm infection happens

> through ingestion of pinworm eggs which are in minute amounts of

> fecal material (sorry to be gross!!) such as under fingernails of

> other preschoolers.

>

> If you fish about on the 'net, you will read about a couple ways

to

> diagnose pinworm infection. One is to shine a flashlight at the

anal

> opening shortly after the child has gone to sleep (this is when

the

> female worms come out to lay eggs). Another is to apply a piece

of

> stick tape to the anal opening in an attempt to trap some of the

> pinworms as they try to migrate. Pinworms are about a centimeter

> long, thinner than a hair, and have a dark, yet translucent

> appearance (a magnifying glass might help here).

>

> Neither of the above worked for us. I caught the pinworms from my

> daughter and it became " itchingly obvious " what was going on. We

> wound up treating the whole household just to be cautious.

>

> FYI#1: The herbal remedies I read about had no effect.

>

> FYI#2: The OTC medication had a wierd psychotropic effect on me---

> made me very crabby in a PMS sort of way---very odd.

>

> --Lissy (she who hath defeated the worm!!

[Guest guest]

What are the symptoms of yeast problems?

[Guest guest]

What is GSE?

[Guest guest]

I don't think you would see them in the stool---they are too tiny.

You might see them in the underwear in the morning if you look.

Apparently the females leave the anal opening to crawl out and lay

eggs, and then some lose their way back and die. Check white shorts

or pull-ups in the am.

My daughter never described " hotness " of the bottom, but then she is

only somewhat verbal. They usually itch. She has had night waking

occasionally for a long while as she is phenol sensitive.

You may want to check a post by andrew several days back in response

to this thread----he listed some supplements that may need to be

addressed for you.

I think the pinworms were truly it in our case, because the

teeth-grinding stopped abruptly when we treated for pinworm. I think

parasites such as pinworm must have some sort of subtle biochemical

effect on us, which our kids might be unusually sensitive to. Maybe

they interfere with certain pathways that andrew's list of supplements

helps with----I don't know.

I didn't even notice the aluminum in Pin-X!!!! . . .and I'm usually a

pretty careful label reader. I can tell you that I tried out some

herbal remedies, (black walnut hull, wormwood, garlic, etc.) when the

first dose of Pin-X didn't do it for me---nothing worked. I wound up

taking three consecutive doses---probably not a good idea.

--Lissy

> I noticed this message and am curious--i did not see any pinworms in

> my son's stool. Would you be able to see the worms pass in the

> stool? He has been grinding his teeth for several months and had

> fitfull sleep. He says his bottom is " hot " but not itchy. Any

> advice? Also, I bought PINX but haven't given it as it contains

> aluminum. Thanks for help.

>

[Guest guest]

GrapeFRUIT seed extract

Lynne

> What is GSE?

[Guest guest]

> What are the symptoms of yeast problems?

>

probably Dana lists them:

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

> What are the symptoms of yeast problems?

My page

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana