Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 n, I don't think you realize the impact this post has on me.Thank you for your story. It both encourages me and calms me in a way to know that the outcome, no matterthe method, should be a healthy, whole one--which iswhat I'm striving for. Health and wholeness in ourfamily. It is so broken now. Thank you. I love you,Kate for KateTo: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 n, I don't think you realize the impact this post has on me.Thank you for your story. It both encourages me and calms me in a way to know that the outcome, no matterthe method, should be a healthy, whole one--which iswhat I'm striving for. Health and wholeness in ourfamily. It is so broken now. Thank you. I love you,Kate for KateTo: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 n, I don't think you realize the impact this post has on me.Thank you for your story. It both encourages me and calms me in a way to know that the outcome, no matterthe method, should be a healthy, whole one--which iswhat I'm striving for. Health and wholeness in ourfamily. It is so broken now. Thank you. I love you,Kate for KateTo: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Rereading this again, n. I do NOT wantto lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to beginfamily therapy. I don't know what form it willtake, how it will 'play out' or how family willadapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I'vebeen doing it for some time...blessings and much love to you again for thispost...Kate for KateTo: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Rereading this again, n. I do NOT wantto lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to beginfamily therapy. I don't know what form it willtake, how it will 'play out' or how family willadapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I'vebeen doing it for some time...blessings and much love to you again for thispost...Kate for KateTo: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Rereading this again, n. I do NOT wantto lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to beginfamily therapy. I don't know what form it willtake, how it will 'play out' or how family willadapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I'vebeen doing it for some time...blessings and much love to you again for thispost...Kate for KateTo: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Kate, I am keeping you in my prayers as I know how hard this is. My son, now 23 went through a terrible bout of depression and anger when he was a teen. We actually feared him on some days. I didn’t like to leave him with my daughter if I wasn’t going to be home. But I will spare you all the details and tell you that with medication and therapy, he is so much better. Back in college, and way less angry all the time. My husband and I still are amazed at his progress. It wasn’t an easy fix---he started at 14 and the high school years were hell but there is a light at the end of the tunnel….. I will pray that your son is able to heal with the therapy. Is he on any medication? Sending prayers and love your way, Connie B From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of katelloydkidz@... Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:04 AM To: MSersLife Subject: Re: for Kate Rereading this again, n. I do NOT want to lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to begin family therapy. I don't know what form it will take, how it will 'play out' or how family will adapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I've been doing it for some time... blessings and much love to you again for this post...Kate for Kate To: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury > occurring and you and your husband losing > all the children to foster care through Child > ren's Protective Services. > > You might start with counseling, although > you have to realize that any counselor of > any kind is obliged to report actual injury > or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service. > And, this does apply to school counselors, > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists, > psychiatrists, the works. > > I would start with counselling, to include the > whole family, with the child who is violent or > who is threatening violence to have individual > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist. > > We have dealt with this in our family when our > second daughter, at about age five, actually > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were > actually very close and still are.) It worked. > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time > and there was no additional cost, which cer > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with > the daughter who had attempted to choke her > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier > for the younger sister, and our family therapist > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to > make like easier for the elder sibling. > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well. > However, had a weapon been involved, I think > that I would not have objected to more strenuous > methods being employed. Our children were five > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor. > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would > do ANYthing for the younger one! > > Love to you, Kate, > n > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Kate, I am keeping you in my prayers as I know how hard this is. My son, now 23 went through a terrible bout of depression and anger when he was a teen. We actually feared him on some days. I didn’t like to leave him with my daughter if I wasn’t going to be home. But I will spare you all the details and tell you that with medication and therapy, he is so much better. Back in college, and way less angry all the time. My husband and I still are amazed at his progress. It wasn’t an easy fix---he started at 14 and the high school years were hell but there is a light at the end of the tunnel….. I will pray that your son is able to heal with the therapy. Is he on any medication? Sending prayers and love your way, Connie B From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of katelloydkidz@... Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:04 AM To: MSersLife Subject: Re: for Kate Rereading this again, n. I do NOT want to lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to begin family therapy. I don't know what form it will take, how it will 'play out' or how family will adapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I've been doing it for some time... blessings and much love to you again for this post...Kate for Kate To: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury > occurring and you and your husband losing > all the children to foster care through Child > ren's Protective Services. > > You might start with counseling, although > you have to realize that any counselor of > any kind is obliged to report actual injury > or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service. > And, this does apply to school counselors, > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists, > psychiatrists, the works. > > I would start with counselling, to include the > whole family, with the child who is violent or > who is threatening violence to have individual > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist. > > We have dealt with this in our family when our > second daughter, at about age five, actually > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were > actually very close and still are.) It worked. > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time > and there was no additional cost, which cer > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with > the daughter who had attempted to choke her > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier > for the younger sister, and our family therapist > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to > make like easier for the elder sibling. > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well. > However, had a weapon been involved, I think > that I would not have objected to more strenuous > methods being employed. Our children were five > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor. > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would > do ANYthing for the younger one! > > Love to you, Kate, > n > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Kate, I am keeping you in my prayers as I know how hard this is. My son, now 23 went through a terrible bout of depression and anger when he was a teen. We actually feared him on some days. I didn’t like to leave him with my daughter if I wasn’t going to be home. But I will spare you all the details and tell you that with medication and therapy, he is so much better. Back in college, and way less angry all the time. My husband and I still are amazed at his progress. It wasn’t an easy fix---he started at 14 and the high school years were hell but there is a light at the end of the tunnel….. I will pray that your son is able to heal with the therapy. Is he on any medication? Sending prayers and love your way, Connie B From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of katelloydkidz@... Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:04 AM To: MSersLife Subject: Re: for Kate Rereading this again, n. I do NOT want to lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to begin family therapy. I don't know what form it will take, how it will 'play out' or how family will adapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I've been doing it for some time... blessings and much love to you again for this post...Kate for Kate To: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury > occurring and you and your husband losing > all the children to foster care through Child > ren's Protective Services. > > You might start with counseling, although > you have to realize that any counselor of > any kind is obliged to report actual injury > or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service. > And, this does apply to school counselors, > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists, > psychiatrists, the works. > > I would start with counselling, to include the > whole family, with the child who is violent or > who is threatening violence to have individual > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist. > > We have dealt with this in our family when our > second daughter, at about age five, actually > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were > actually very close and still are.) It worked. > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time > and there was no additional cost, which cer > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with > the daughter who had attempted to choke her > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier > for the younger sister, and our family therapist > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to > make like easier for the elder sibling. > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well. > However, had a weapon been involved, I think > that I would not have objected to more strenuous > methods being employed. Our children were five > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor. > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would > do ANYthing for the younger one! > > Love to you, Kate, > n > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Kate, OF COURSE you don't want to lose any of your kids! You're a mom! Actually, no, you're not just a mom, you're a MOM, with caps!   ~*~ Akiba~*~ ~*~Pragmatic Visionary~*~ The World revolves aroung the Sun My World revolves around My Son When I grow up I want to be a philanthropist Beautiful Salt lamps and Salt products: http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php -- Re: for Kate Rereading this again, n. I do NOT wantto lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to beginfamily therapy. I don't know what form it willtake, how it will 'play out' or how family willadapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I'vebeen doing it for some time...blessings and much love to you again for thispost...Kate for KateTo: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Kate, OF COURSE you don't want to lose any of your kids! You're a mom! Actually, no, you're not just a mom, you're a MOM, with caps!   ~*~ Akiba~*~ ~*~Pragmatic Visionary~*~ The World revolves aroung the Sun My World revolves around My Son When I grow up I want to be a philanthropist Beautiful Salt lamps and Salt products: http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php -- Re: for Kate Rereading this again, n. I do NOT wantto lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to beginfamily therapy. I don't know what form it willtake, how it will 'play out' or how family willadapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I'vebeen doing it for some time...blessings and much love to you again for thispost...Kate for KateTo: MSersLife > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 No parent in right mind wishes to "lose" any ofthe kids, but temporary treatment in a facility ismore what I had in mind. In theory you get the"kid" back and in better shape. Try counsellingand/or psychotherapy--anything.Love,nTo: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:15:55 AMSubject: Re: for Kate Kate, OF COURSE you don't want to lose any of your kids! You're a mom! Actually, no, you're not just a mom, you're a MOM, with caps!   ~*~ Akiba~*~ ~*~Pragmatic Visionary~*~ The World revolves aroung the Sun My World revolves around My Son When I grow up I want to be a philanthropist Beautiful Salt lamps and Salt products: http://www.affiliat es-natural- salt-lamps. com/pages/ 156.php -- Re: for Kate Rereading this again, n. I do NOT wantto lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to beginfamily therapy. I don't know what form it willtake, how it will 'play out' or how family willadapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I'vebeen doing it for some time...blessings and much love to you again for thispost...Kate for KateTo: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 No parent in right mind wishes to "lose" any ofthe kids, but temporary treatment in a facility ismore what I had in mind. In theory you get the"kid" back and in better shape. Try counsellingand/or psychotherapy--anything.Love,nTo: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:15:55 AMSubject: Re: for Kate Kate, OF COURSE you don't want to lose any of your kids! You're a mom! Actually, no, you're not just a mom, you're a MOM, with caps!   ~*~ Akiba~*~ ~*~Pragmatic Visionary~*~ The World revolves aroung the Sun My World revolves around My Son When I grow up I want to be a philanthropist Beautiful Salt lamps and Salt products: http://www.affiliat es-natural- salt-lamps. com/pages/ 156.php -- Re: for Kate Rereading this again, n. I do NOT wantto lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to beginfamily therapy. I don't know what form it willtake, how it will 'play out' or how family willadapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I'vebeen doing it for some time...blessings and much love to you again for thispost...Kate for KateTo: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 No parent in right mind wishes to "lose" any ofthe kids, but temporary treatment in a facility ismore what I had in mind. In theory you get the"kid" back and in better shape. Try counsellingand/or psychotherapy--anything.Love,nTo: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:15:55 AMSubject: Re: for Kate Kate, OF COURSE you don't want to lose any of your kids! You're a mom! Actually, no, you're not just a mom, you're a MOM, with caps!   ~*~ Akiba~*~ ~*~Pragmatic Visionary~*~ The World revolves aroung the Sun My World revolves around My Son When I grow up I want to be a philanthropist Beautiful Salt lamps and Salt products: http://www.affiliat es-natural- salt-lamps. com/pages/ 156.php -- Re: for Kate Rereading this again, n. I do NOT wantto lose ANY of my kids! We DO need to beginfamily therapy. I don't know what form it willtake, how it will 'play out' or how family willadapt or adjust to it. I'm used to therapy;I'vebeen doing it for some time...blessings and much love to you again for thispost...Kate for KateTo: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> You do not want to take the risk of real injury> occurring and you and your husband losing> all the children to foster care through Child> ren's Protective Services.> > You might start with counseling, although> you have to realize that any counselor of> any kind is obliged to report actual injury> or danger of injury to another child to > your state's Children's Protective Service.> And, this does apply to school counselors,> Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> psychiatrists, the works.> > I would start with counselling, to include the> whole family, with the child who is violent or> who is threatening violence to have individual> counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > psychotherapist.> > We have dealt with this in our family when our> second daughter, at about age five, actually> tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> actually very close and still are.) It worked.> We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> and there was no additional cost, which cer> tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> the daughter who had attempted to choke her> younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> for the younger sister, and our family therapist> assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> make like easier for the elder sibling.> > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> However, had a weapon been involved, I think> that I would not have objected to more strenuous> methods being employed. Our children were five> and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> do ANYthing for the younger one!> > Love to you, Kate,> n> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I understand what you are saying , n, I just hope thatwhatever they 'do' if it involves taking him, does not furtherdamage him emotionally and spiritually...that is my biggestconcern, of course for myself and my own sanity as well..Sorry for the runon sentence. love, Kate for Kate> To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > occurring and you and your husband losing> > all the children to foster care through Child> > ren's Protective Services.> > > > You might start with counseling, although> > you have to realize that any counselor of> > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > or danger of injury to another child to > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > who is threatening violence to have individual> > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > psychotherapist.> > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > methods being employed. Our children were five> > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > Love to you, Kate,> > n> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I understand what you are saying , n, I just hope thatwhatever they 'do' if it involves taking him, does not furtherdamage him emotionally and spiritually...that is my biggestconcern, of course for myself and my own sanity as well..Sorry for the runon sentence. love, Kate for Kate> To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > occurring and you and your husband losing> > all the children to foster care through Child> > ren's Protective Services.> > > > You might start with counseling, although> > you have to realize that any counselor of> > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > or danger of injury to another child to > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > who is threatening violence to have individual> > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > psychotherapist.> > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > methods being employed. Our children were five> > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > Love to you, Kate,> > n> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I think that in your circumstances, Kate, and with MS,that "run-on" sentences should be the norm.Love to you, Kate, and the kids--all of them.nTo: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:12:24 AMSubject: Re: for Kate I understand what you are saying , n, I just hope thatwhatever they 'do' if it involves taking him, does not furtherdamage him emotionally and spiritually. ..that is my biggestconcern, of course for myself and my own sanity as well..Sorry for the runon sentence. love, Kate for Kate> To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > occurring and you and your husband losing> > all the children to foster care through Child> > ren's Protective Services.> > > > You might start with counseling, although> > you have to realize that any counselor of> > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > or danger of injury to another child to > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > who is threatening violence to have individual> > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > psychotherapist.> > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > methods being employed. Our children were five> > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > Love to you, Kate,> > n> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I think that in your circumstances, Kate, and with MS,that "run-on" sentences should be the norm.Love to you, Kate, and the kids--all of them.nTo: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:12:24 AMSubject: Re: for Kate I understand what you are saying , n, I just hope thatwhatever they 'do' if it involves taking him, does not furtherdamage him emotionally and spiritually. ..that is my biggestconcern, of course for myself and my own sanity as well..Sorry for the runon sentence. love, Kate for Kate> To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > occurring and you and your husband losing> > all the children to foster care through Child> > ren's Protective Services.> > > > You might start with counseling, although> > you have to realize that any counselor of> > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > or danger of injury to another child to > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > who is threatening violence to have individual> > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > psychotherapist.> > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > methods being employed. Our children were five> > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > Love to you, Kate,> > n> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I think that in your circumstances, Kate, and with MS,that "run-on" sentences should be the norm.Love to you, Kate, and the kids--all of them.nTo: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:12:24 AMSubject: Re: for Kate I understand what you are saying , n, I just hope thatwhatever they 'do' if it involves taking him, does not furtherdamage him emotionally and spiritually. ..that is my biggestconcern, of course for myself and my own sanity as well..Sorry for the runon sentence. love, Kate for Kate> To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > occurring and you and your husband losing> > all the children to foster care through Child> > ren's Protective Services.> > > > You might start with counseling, although> > you have to realize that any counselor of> > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > or danger of injury to another child to > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > who is threatening violence to have individual> > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > psychotherapist.> > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > methods being employed. Our children were five> > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > Love to you, Kate,> > n> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Thank you n for understanding. I am inpanic mode now, as I am awaiting CPS'sarrival at anytime within the next hour. Fortunately,I have a woman from my church coming to supportme...love you n, Kate for Kate> > To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > > occurring and you and your husband losing> > > all the children to foster care through Child> > > ren's Protective Services.> > > > > > You might start with counseling, although> > > you have to realize that any counselor of> > > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > > or danger of injury to another child to > > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > > who is threatening violence to have individual> > > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > > psychotherapist.> > > > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > > methods being employed. Our children were five> > > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > > > Love to you, Kate,> > > n> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Thank you n for understanding. I am inpanic mode now, as I am awaiting CPS'sarrival at anytime within the next hour. Fortunately,I have a woman from my church coming to supportme...love you n, Kate for Kate> > To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > > occurring and you and your husband losing> > > all the children to foster care through Child> > > ren's Protective Services.> > > > > > You might start with counseling, although> > > you have to realize that any counselor of> > > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > > or danger of injury to another child to > > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > > who is threatening violence to have individual> > > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > > psychotherapist.> > > > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > > methods being employed. Our children were five> > > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > > > Love to you, Kate,> > > n> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Sweetie we're here for you   ~*~ Akiba~*~ ~*~Pragmatic Visionary~*~ The World revolves aroung the Sun My World revolves around My Son When I grow up I want to be a philanthropist Beautiful Salt lamps and Salt products: http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php -- Re: for Kate Thank you n for understanding. I am inpanic mode now, as I am awaiting CPS'sarrival at anytime within the next hour. Fortunately,I have a woman from my church coming to supportme...love you n, Kate for Kate> > To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > > occurring and you and your husband losing> > > all the children to foster care through Child> > > ren's Protective Services.> > > > > > You might start with counseling, although> > > you have to realize that any counselor of> > > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > > or danger of injury to another child to > > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > > who is threatening violence to have individual> > > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > > psychotherapist.> > > > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > > methods being employed. Our children were five> > > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > > > Love to you, Kate,> > > n> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Sweetie we're here for you   ~*~ Akiba~*~ ~*~Pragmatic Visionary~*~ The World revolves aroung the Sun My World revolves around My Son When I grow up I want to be a philanthropist Beautiful Salt lamps and Salt products: http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php -- Re: for Kate Thank you n for understanding. I am inpanic mode now, as I am awaiting CPS'sarrival at anytime within the next hour. Fortunately,I have a woman from my church coming to supportme...love you n, Kate for Kate> > To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > > occurring and you and your husband losing> > > all the children to foster care through Child> > > ren's Protective Services.> > > > > > You might start with counseling, although> > > you have to realize that any counselor of> > > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > > or danger of injury to another child to > > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > > who is threatening violence to have individual> > > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > > psychotherapist.> > > > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > > methods being employed. Our children were five> > > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > > > Love to you, Kate,> > > n> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Sweetie we're here for you   ~*~ Akiba~*~ ~*~Pragmatic Visionary~*~ The World revolves aroung the Sun My World revolves around My Son When I grow up I want to be a philanthropist Beautiful Salt lamps and Salt products: http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php -- Re: for Kate Thank you n for understanding. I am inpanic mode now, as I am awaiting CPS'sarrival at anytime within the next hour. Fortunately,I have a woman from my church coming to supportme...love you n, Kate for Kate> > To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > > occurring and you and your husband losing> > > all the children to foster care through Child> > > ren's Protective Services.> > > > > > You might start with counseling, although> > > you have to realize that any counselor of> > > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > > or danger of injury to another child to > > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > > who is threatening violence to have individual> > > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > > psychotherapist.> > > > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > > methods being employed. Our children were five> > > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > > > Love to you, Kate,> > > n> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I was just thinking about you Kate, how is it going? Any news? Remember the CPS people don't (usually) WANT to take kids away, they WANT to make families whole. HUGS   ~*~ Akiba~*~ ~*~Pragmatic Visionary~*~ The World revolves aroung the Sun My World revolves around My Son When I grow up I want to be a philanthropist Beautiful Salt lamps and Salt products: http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php -- RE: for Kate Oh, hon, I know how you feel (once Dear Daughter discovered CPS, she used it as a weapon until she was so old they laughed at her). Try and be open and cooperative, explain what you're doing to get help and keep everyone safe. Praying for you all.T in WY"You get a wonderful view from the point of no return..."http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.comhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancieshttp://practical-blackwork.tripod.com -----Original Message-----From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of katelloydkidzoptonline (DOT) netSent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:26 AMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: for KateThank you n for understanding. I am inpanic mode now, as I am awaiting CPS'sarrival at anytime within the next hour. Fortunately,I have a woman from my church coming to supportme...love you n, Kate for Kate> > To: MSersLife@yahoogrou ps.com> > > > > You do not want to take the risk of real injury> > > occurring and you and your husband losing> > > all the children to foster care through Child> > > ren's Protective Services.> > > > > > You might start with counseling, although> > > you have to realize that any counselor of> > > any kind is obliged to report actual injury> > > or danger of injury to another child to > > > your state's Children's Protective Service.> > > And, this does apply to school counselors,> > > Marriage and Family counselors, psychologists,> > > psychiatrists, the works.> > > > > > I would start with counselling, to include the> > > whole family, with the child who is violent or> > > who is threatening violence to have individual> > > counselling as well--perhaps with a separate > > > psychotherapist.> > > > > > We have dealt with this in our family when our> > > second daughter, at about age five, actually> > > tried to choke her younger sister! (They were> > > actually very close and still are.) It worked.> > > We belonged to an HMO, Kaiser, at the time> > > and there was no additional cost, which cer> > > tainly did help. The psychologist dealing with> > > the daughter who had attempted to choke her> > > younger sister (who knocked the attacker to > > > the floor--no weapons involved) assigned the> > > attacker no end of tasks to make life easier> > > for the younger sister, and our family therapist> > > assigned the younger one no end of tasks to> > > make like easier for the elder sibling.> > > > > > We were very fortunate and all worked out well.> > > However, had a weapon been involved, I think> > > that I would not have objected to more strenuous> > > methods being employed. Our children were five> > > and two and one-half when this occurred, and the> > > younger one knocked the elder one flat on the floor.> > > > > > Amazing how tough the youngest, and the shortest> > > was, and still is. To this day, the elder one would> > > do ANYthing for the younger one!> > > > > > Love to you, Kate,> > > n> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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