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In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary is $38-$40 per

hour.

I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year experienced PT.

Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country? or is it in the

ball-park?

Hiten Dave' PT

New Grad Salaries

Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

currently?

Joe Ruzich, PT

Pueblo, CO

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In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary is $38-$40 per

hour.

I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year experienced PT.

Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country? or is it in the

ball-park?

Hiten Dave' PT

New Grad Salaries

Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

currently?

Joe Ruzich, PT

Pueblo, CO

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In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary is $38-$40 per

hour.

I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year experienced PT.

Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country? or is it in the

ball-park?

Hiten Dave' PT

New Grad Salaries

Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

currently?

Joe Ruzich, PT

Pueblo, CO

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Really? we start ours in the 26-28/ hour range. i need to move!!

Ruchin, PT, DPT

Atlanta Rehabilitation and Performance Center, Inc.

bruchin@...

www.atlantarehab.com <http://www.atlantarehab.com/>

Re: New Grad Salaries

In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary

is $38-$40 per hour.

I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year

experienced PT.

Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country?

or is it in the ball-park?

Hiten Dave' PT

New Grad Salaries

Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad

PT's

currently?

Joe Ruzich, PT

Pueblo, CO

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Really? we start ours in the 26-28/ hour range. i need to move!!

Ruchin, PT, DPT

Atlanta Rehabilitation and Performance Center, Inc.

bruchin@...

www.atlantarehab.com <http://www.atlantarehab.com/>

Re: New Grad Salaries

In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary

is $38-$40 per hour.

I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year

experienced PT.

Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country?

or is it in the ball-park?

Hiten Dave' PT

New Grad Salaries

Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad

PT's

currently?

Joe Ruzich, PT

Pueblo, CO

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Dave,

Is that on a contractor basis or as a full-time employee?

Geez, that's $80,000 as a full time employee in base pay alone without benefits,

continuing ed, etc.

Matt Capo, PT

Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

Re: New Grad Salaries

In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary is $38-$40 per

hour.

I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year experienced PT.

Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country? or is it in the

ball-park?

Hiten Dave' PT

New Grad Salaries

Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

currently?

Joe Ruzich, PT

Pueblo, CO

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Dave,

Is that on a contractor basis or as a full-time employee?

Geez, that's $80,000 as a full time employee in base pay alone without benefits,

continuing ed, etc.

Matt Capo, PT

Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

Re: New Grad Salaries

In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary is $38-$40 per

hour.

I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year experienced PT.

Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country? or is it in the

ball-park?

Hiten Dave' PT

New Grad Salaries

Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

currently?

Joe Ruzich, PT

Pueblo, CO

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Yes, that's full time employee. I would have a hard time paying for a full time

employee however, for vacation relief it's ok. Our other office has a PT who is

getting paid that amount, however, much more reponsibilities besides being a

good treating PT. Unfortunately, recruiters are always snatching away good PTs

to go work for POPT clinics. It's just a dog's world when comes to POPT as the

same physicians also try to steal my patients who just go for an evaluation. On

that note, why do PTs want to work with recruiters? Do PTs know that the

recruiter charge from 15% to 20% of the PT's salary. If a PT wants a job, all

he/she has to do is open up the yellow pages and call some of the PT offices to

see if they are hiring.

Hiten Dave' PT

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currently?

Joe Ruzich, PT

Pueblo, CO

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Dave- I resisted working with recruiters for many years based on principle, but

the market pot is constantly being stirred by contract agencies offering big

bucks, sign-on bonuses and creative incentives to provide staffing in hard to

place locations, that while I still am very hands-on in our hiring process, I

had to add a professional recruiter to supplement my recruiting efforts.

Sometimes a recruiter can find candidates who might not be actively looking for

a change, and the contract fees I have to pay while I'm looking are eating up

our budgets.

Surveys show that new grads in SNF and hospitals come in at $27-$30/hour in the

Chicago metropolitan region. MP

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Matt,

Do you realize/understand the cost of living in California? Especially in San

Francisco! I live in Dallas, TX. The cost of living in San Francisco, CA is

59.6% higher than in Dallas, TX. A PT would have to earn a base salary of

$111,698 to maintain a standard of living base salary of $70,000 comparable to

Dallas. What salary do you believe a new-grad should make?

You can't compare state-to-state salaries without taking into account the cost

of living between each state. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Cost of

living keeps going up - payments/reimbursements continue to go down. It doesn't

appear to be a supportable business model.

Terry Stegman, PT, MS

>

>

> Dave,

> Is that on a contractor basis or as a full-time employee?

> Geez, that's $80,000 as a full time employee in base pay alone without

benefits, continuing ed, etc.

>

> Matt Capo, PT

> Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

> Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: New Grad Salaries

>

>

>

>

>

> In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary is $38-$40 per

hour.

> I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year experienced PT.

> Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country? or is it in the

ball-park?

> Hiten Dave' PT

> New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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Matt,

Do you realize/understand the cost of living in California? Especially in San

Francisco! I live in Dallas, TX. The cost of living in San Francisco, CA is

59.6% higher than in Dallas, TX. A PT would have to earn a base salary of

$111,698 to maintain a standard of living base salary of $70,000 comparable to

Dallas. What salary do you believe a new-grad should make?

You can't compare state-to-state salaries without taking into account the cost

of living between each state. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Cost of

living keeps going up - payments/reimbursements continue to go down. It doesn't

appear to be a supportable business model.

Terry Stegman, PT, MS

>

>

> Dave,

> Is that on a contractor basis or as a full-time employee?

> Geez, that's $80,000 as a full time employee in base pay alone without

benefits, continuing ed, etc.

>

> Matt Capo, PT

> Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

> Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: New Grad Salaries

>

>

>

>

>

> In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary is $38-$40 per

hour.

> I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year experienced PT.

> Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country? or is it in the

ball-park?

> Hiten Dave' PT

> New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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Terry,

This begs the question then.....Are you reimbursed that much more in San

Fancisco then you are in Texas? The real question is....How do you pay those

kind of salaries, and still make a profit?

Matt Dvorak, PT

Yankton, SD

________________________________

From: PTManager on behalf of TSTEGMAN2

Sent: Tue 12/22/2009 11:21 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: New Grad Salaries

Matt,

Do you realize/understand the cost of living in California? Especially in San

Francisco! I live in Dallas, TX. The cost of living in San Francisco, CA is

59.6% higher than in Dallas, TX. A PT would have to earn a base salary of

$111,698 to maintain a standard of living base salary of $70,000 comparable to

Dallas. What salary do you believe a new-grad should make?

You can't compare state-to-state salaries without taking into account the cost

of living between each state. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Cost of

living keeps going up - payments/reimbursements continue to go down. It doesn't

appear to be a supportable business model.

Terry Stegman, PT, MS

>

>

> Dave,

> Is that on a contractor basis or as a full-time employee?

> Geez, that's $80,000 as a full time employee in base pay alone without

benefits, continuing ed, etc.

>

> Matt Capo, PT

> Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

> Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: New Grad Salaries

>

>

>

>

>

> In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary is $38-$40 per

hour.

> I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year experienced PT.

> Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country? or is it in the

ball-park?

> Hiten Dave' PT

> New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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Terry,

This begs the question then.....Are you reimbursed that much more in San

Fancisco then you are in Texas? The real question is....How do you pay those

kind of salaries, and still make a profit?

Matt Dvorak, PT

Yankton, SD

________________________________

From: PTManager on behalf of TSTEGMAN2

Sent: Tue 12/22/2009 11:21 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: New Grad Salaries

Matt,

Do you realize/understand the cost of living in California? Especially in San

Francisco! I live in Dallas, TX. The cost of living in San Francisco, CA is

59.6% higher than in Dallas, TX. A PT would have to earn a base salary of

$111,698 to maintain a standard of living base salary of $70,000 comparable to

Dallas. What salary do you believe a new-grad should make?

You can't compare state-to-state salaries without taking into account the cost

of living between each state. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Cost of

living keeps going up - payments/reimbursements continue to go down. It doesn't

appear to be a supportable business model.

Terry Stegman, PT, MS

>

>

> Dave,

> Is that on a contractor basis or as a full-time employee?

> Geez, that's $80,000 as a full time employee in base pay alone without

benefits, continuing ed, etc.

>

> Matt Capo, PT

> Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

> Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: New Grad Salaries

>

>

>

>

>

> In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary is $38-$40 per

hour.

> I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year experienced PT.

> Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country? or is it in the

ball-park?

> Hiten Dave' PT

> New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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I Think you will be seeing a lot of PTs moving to San Francisco!  I sure am

thinking about it really good salaries!

Barbara O'Shea PT

New Jersey

New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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I Think you will be seeing a lot of PTs moving to San Francisco!  I sure am

thinking about it really good salaries!

Barbara O'Shea PT

New Jersey

New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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I find that the wages that Dave mentioned are accurate for our area of the

country-Midwest/Kansas

le Bohl, PT

>

>

> Terry,

> This begs the question then.....Are you reimbursed that much more in San

> Fancisco then you are in Texas? The real question is....How do you pay those

> kind of salaries, and still make a profit?

> Matt Dvorak, PT

> Yankton, SD

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: PTManager <PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> on behalf of

> TSTEGMAN2

> Sent: Tue 12/22/2009 11:21 AM

> To: PTManager <PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: New Grad Salaries

>

> Matt,

>

> Do you realize/understand the cost of living in California? Especially in

> San Francisco! I live in Dallas, TX. The cost of living in San Francisco, CA

> is 59.6% higher than in Dallas, TX. A PT would have to earn a base salary of

> $111,698 to maintain a standard of living base salary of $70,000 comparable

> to Dallas. What salary do you believe a new-grad should make?

>

> You can't compare state-to-state salaries without taking into account the

> cost of living between each state. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

> Cost of living keeps going up - payments/reimbursements continue to go down.

> It doesn't appear to be a supportable business model.

>

> Terry Stegman, PT, MS

>

>

> >

> >

> > Dave,

> > Is that on a contractor basis or as a full-time employee?

> > Geez, that's $80,000 as a full time employee in base pay alone without

> benefits, continuing ed, etc.

> >

> > Matt Capo, PT

> > Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

> > Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: New Grad Salaries

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary is $38-$40

> per hour.

> > I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year experienced PT.

> > Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country? or is it

> in the ball-park?

> > Hiten Dave' PT

> > New Grad Salaries

> >

> > Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> > currently?

> >

> > Joe Ruzich, PT

> > Pueblo, CO

> >

> >

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le:

Really?!!! In what practice setting? Maybe as a director in a long-

term care facility. I could not make it as a practice owner paying

those wages. I would have to close the doors quickly.

Ric Baird, MS, PT, ATC

Interactive Physical Therapy & Fitness

4745 NW Hunters Ridge Circle

Suite D

Topeka, KS 66618

(785)246-2300 (P)

(785)246-2301 (F)

Interactive Physical Therapy

1709 SE 29th Street

Suite 300-400

Topeka, KS 66605

(785)266-4600 (P)

(785)266-4601 (F)

www.interactiveptandfitness.com

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On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:23 PM, le Bohl

wrote:

> I find that the wages that Dave mentioned are accurate for our area

> of the

> country-Midwest/Kansas

> le Bohl, PT

>

> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Matt Dvorak

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Terry,

> > This begs the question then.....Are you reimbursed that much more

> in San

> > Fancisco then you are in Texas? The real question is....How do you

> pay those

> > kind of salaries, and still make a profit?

> > Matt Dvorak, PT

> > Yankton, SD

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: PTManager <PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> on

> behalf of

> > TSTEGMAN2

> > Sent: Tue 12/22/2009 11:21 AM

> > To: PTManager <PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Re: New Grad Salaries

> >

> > Matt,

> >

> > Do you realize/understand the cost of living in California?

> Especially in

> > San Francisco! I live in Dallas, TX. The cost of living in San

> Francisco, CA

> > is 59.6% higher than in Dallas, TX. A PT would have to earn a base

> salary of

> > $111,698 to maintain a standard of living base salary of $70,000

> comparable

> > to Dallas. What salary do you believe a new-grad should make?

> >

> > You can't compare state-to-state salaries without taking into

> account the

> > cost of living between each state. It's like comparing apples to

> oranges.

> > Cost of living keeps going up - payments/reimbursements continue

> to go down.

> > It doesn't appear to be a supportable business model.

> >

> > Terry Stegman, PT, MS

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dave,

> > > Is that on a contractor basis or as a full-time employee?

> > > Geez, that's $80,000 as a full time employee in base pay alone

> without

> > benefits, continuing ed, etc.

> > >

> > > Matt Capo, PT

> > > Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

> > > Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: New Grad Salaries

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary

> is $38-$40

> > per hour.

> > > I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year

> experienced PT.

> > > Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country?

> or is it

> > in the ball-park?

> > > Hiten Dave' PT

> > > New Grad Salaries

> > >

> > > Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad

> PT's

> > > currently?

> > >

> > > Joe Ruzich, PT

> > > Pueblo, CO

> > >

> > >

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le:

Really?!!! In what practice setting? Maybe as a director in a long-

term care facility. I could not make it as a practice owner paying

those wages. I would have to close the doors quickly.

Ric Baird, MS, PT, ATC

Interactive Physical Therapy & Fitness

4745 NW Hunters Ridge Circle

Suite D

Topeka, KS 66618

(785)246-2300 (P)

(785)246-2301 (F)

Interactive Physical Therapy

1709 SE 29th Street

Suite 300-400

Topeka, KS 66605

(785)266-4600 (P)

(785)266-4601 (F)

www.interactiveptandfitness.com

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On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:23 PM, le Bohl

wrote:

> I find that the wages that Dave mentioned are accurate for our area

> of the

> country-Midwest/Kansas

> le Bohl, PT

>

> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Matt Dvorak

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Terry,

> > This begs the question then.....Are you reimbursed that much more

> in San

> > Fancisco then you are in Texas? The real question is....How do you

> pay those

> > kind of salaries, and still make a profit?

> > Matt Dvorak, PT

> > Yankton, SD

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: PTManager <PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> on

> behalf of

> > TSTEGMAN2

> > Sent: Tue 12/22/2009 11:21 AM

> > To: PTManager <PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Re: New Grad Salaries

> >

> > Matt,

> >

> > Do you realize/understand the cost of living in California?

> Especially in

> > San Francisco! I live in Dallas, TX. The cost of living in San

> Francisco, CA

> > is 59.6% higher than in Dallas, TX. A PT would have to earn a base

> salary of

> > $111,698 to maintain a standard of living base salary of $70,000

> comparable

> > to Dallas. What salary do you believe a new-grad should make?

> >

> > You can't compare state-to-state salaries without taking into

> account the

> > cost of living between each state. It's like comparing apples to

> oranges.

> > Cost of living keeps going up - payments/reimbursements continue

> to go down.

> > It doesn't appear to be a supportable business model.

> >

> > Terry Stegman, PT, MS

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dave,

> > > Is that on a contractor basis or as a full-time employee?

> > > Geez, that's $80,000 as a full time employee in base pay alone

> without

> > benefits, continuing ed, etc.

> > >

> > > Matt Capo, PT

> > > Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

> > > Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: New Grad Salaries

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary

> is $38-$40

> > per hour.

> > > I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year

> experienced PT.

> > > Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country?

> or is it

> > in the ball-park?

> > > Hiten Dave' PT

> > > New Grad Salaries

> > >

> > > Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad

> PT's

> > > currently?

> > >

> > > Joe Ruzich, PT

> > > Pueblo, CO

> > >

> > >

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le:

Really?!!! In what practice setting? Maybe as a director in a long-

term care facility. I could not make it as a practice owner paying

those wages. I would have to close the doors quickly.

Ric Baird, MS, PT, ATC

Interactive Physical Therapy & Fitness

4745 NW Hunters Ridge Circle

Suite D

Topeka, KS 66618

(785)246-2300 (P)

(785)246-2301 (F)

Interactive Physical Therapy

1709 SE 29th Street

Suite 300-400

Topeka, KS 66605

(785)266-4600 (P)

(785)266-4601 (F)

www.interactiveptandfitness.com

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On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:23 PM, le Bohl

wrote:

> I find that the wages that Dave mentioned are accurate for our area

> of the

> country-Midwest/Kansas

> le Bohl, PT

>

> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Matt Dvorak

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Terry,

> > This begs the question then.....Are you reimbursed that much more

> in San

> > Fancisco then you are in Texas? The real question is....How do you

> pay those

> > kind of salaries, and still make a profit?

> > Matt Dvorak, PT

> > Yankton, SD

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: PTManager <PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> on

> behalf of

> > TSTEGMAN2

> > Sent: Tue 12/22/2009 11:21 AM

> > To: PTManager <PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Re: New Grad Salaries

> >

> > Matt,

> >

> > Do you realize/understand the cost of living in California?

> Especially in

> > San Francisco! I live in Dallas, TX. The cost of living in San

> Francisco, CA

> > is 59.6% higher than in Dallas, TX. A PT would have to earn a base

> salary of

> > $111,698 to maintain a standard of living base salary of $70,000

> comparable

> > to Dallas. What salary do you believe a new-grad should make?

> >

> > You can't compare state-to-state salaries without taking into

> account the

> > cost of living between each state. It's like comparing apples to

> oranges.

> > Cost of living keeps going up - payments/reimbursements continue

> to go down.

> > It doesn't appear to be a supportable business model.

> >

> > Terry Stegman, PT, MS

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dave,

> > > Is that on a contractor basis or as a full-time employee?

> > > Geez, that's $80,000 as a full time employee in base pay alone

> without

> > benefits, continuing ed, etc.

> > >

> > > Matt Capo, PT

> > > Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

> > > Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: New Grad Salaries

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In San Francisco, Bay Area I have found that the asking salary

> is $38-$40

> > per hour.

> > > I have paid $50 per hour for vacation relief for 10 year

> experienced PT.

> > > Is this sounding too high compared to the rest of the country?

> or is it

> > in the ball-park?

> > > Hiten Dave' PT

> > > New Grad Salaries

> > >

> > > Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad

> PT's

> > > currently?

> > >

> > > Joe Ruzich, PT

> > > Pueblo, CO

> > >

> > >

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It all is supply and demand. We pay substantial higher salaries

in rural areas for therapist (in Iowa) than cities that are an hour or two away.

I was talking with a therapist in Omaha, Ne (TWO HOURS AWAY) a couple of weeks

ago and he could not believe what I was paying my staff therapists. Not only do

we pay higher salaries but also pay student loans off. We almost have to in

order to compete for therapist to look at us. Our cost of living is much lower

compared to bigger cities so it is not all about cost of living either. We are a

CAH in Iowa.

CRMCw-ColSm

Jeff Nolder, MSPT

Director of Physical Medicine and Rehab

Cherokee Regional Medical Center

(fax)

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

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Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: Re: New Grad Salaries

I Think you will be seeing a lot of PTs moving to San Francisco! I sure am

thinking about it really good salaries!

Barbara O'Shea PT

New Jersey

New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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It all is supply and demand. We pay substantial higher salaries

in rural areas for therapist (in Iowa) than cities that are an hour or two away.

I was talking with a therapist in Omaha, Ne (TWO HOURS AWAY) a couple of weeks

ago and he could not believe what I was paying my staff therapists. Not only do

we pay higher salaries but also pay student loans off. We almost have to in

order to compete for therapist to look at us. Our cost of living is much lower

compared to bigger cities so it is not all about cost of living either. We are a

CAH in Iowa.

CRMCw-ColSm

Jeff Nolder, MSPT

Director of Physical Medicine and Rehab

Cherokee Regional Medical Center

(fax)

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

sjoshea319@...

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:20 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: Re: New Grad Salaries

I Think you will be seeing a lot of PTs moving to San Francisco! I sure am

thinking about it really good salaries!

Barbara O'Shea PT

New Jersey

New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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I agree completely Jeff. New Grad Salaries are entirely based upon supply and

demand. They are also based upon what you are willing to pay to attract a new

grad! If you are willing to pay a new grad 100K then that is your priority. I

will say that it is impossible to compare salaries in rural Iowa to Dallas or to

San Diego as the economies are drastically different in each area. Recruiting a

new grad in San Diego or Dallas is a much easier task than in rural Iowa. There

is something to be said for needing to pay a higher salary in a rural area,

along with other fringe benefits like loan repayment, to entice therapists to

move to a rural area. New grad salaries in the Dallas-Fort Worth area,

depending on practice setting, are in the 50-60K range. It both surprises and

concerns me that entities in the country are offering new grads 100K+ when we

have practicing professionals in leadership roles that don't earn that level of

salary.

Mike Connors PT

UNTHSC

Fort Worth, TX

----- New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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I agree completely Jeff. New Grad Salaries are entirely based upon supply and

demand. They are also based upon what you are willing to pay to attract a new

grad! If you are willing to pay a new grad 100K then that is your priority. I

will say that it is impossible to compare salaries in rural Iowa to Dallas or to

San Diego as the economies are drastically different in each area. Recruiting a

new grad in San Diego or Dallas is a much easier task than in rural Iowa. There

is something to be said for needing to pay a higher salary in a rural area,

along with other fringe benefits like loan repayment, to entice therapists to

move to a rural area. New grad salaries in the Dallas-Fort Worth area,

depending on practice setting, are in the 50-60K range. It both surprises and

concerns me that entities in the country are offering new grads 100K+ when we

have practicing professionals in leadership roles that don't earn that level of

salary.

Mike Connors PT

UNTHSC

Fort Worth, TX

----- New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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I agree completely Jeff. New Grad Salaries are entirely based upon supply and

demand. They are also based upon what you are willing to pay to attract a new

grad! If you are willing to pay a new grad 100K then that is your priority. I

will say that it is impossible to compare salaries in rural Iowa to Dallas or to

San Diego as the economies are drastically different in each area. Recruiting a

new grad in San Diego or Dallas is a much easier task than in rural Iowa. There

is something to be said for needing to pay a higher salary in a rural area,

along with other fringe benefits like loan repayment, to entice therapists to

move to a rural area. New grad salaries in the Dallas-Fort Worth area,

depending on practice setting, are in the 50-60K range. It both surprises and

concerns me that entities in the country are offering new grads 100K+ when we

have practicing professionals in leadership roles that don't earn that level of

salary.

Mike Connors PT

UNTHSC

Fort Worth, TX

----- New Grad Salaries

>

> Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

> currently?

>

> Joe Ruzich, PT

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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The recruiters we have been approached by want the employer to pay the cost so

the 'staff PT' doesn't have any money out of pocket.

Matt Capo, PT

Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc.

Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi

Re: New Grad Salaries

Yes, that's full time employee. I would have a hard time paying for a full time

employee however, for vacation relief it's ok. Our other office has a PT who is

getting paid that amount, however, much more reponsibilities besides being a

good treating PT. Unfortunately, recruiters are always snatching away good PTs

to go work for POPT clinics. It's just a dog's world when comes to POPT as the

same physicians also try to steal my patients who just go for an evaluation. On

that note, why do PTs want to work with recruiters? Do PTs know that the

recruiter charge from 15% to 20% of the PT's salary. If a PT wants a job, all

he/she has to do is open up the yellow pages and call some of the PT offices to

see if they are hiring.

Hiten Dave' PT

New Grad Salaries

Would anyone be willing to share what they are offering new grad PT's

currently?

Joe Ruzich, PT

Pueblo, CO

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