Re: Mini Speech Regressions

[Guest guest]

" so on the face of it his nutritional intake

should be much improved from when he was just eating wheat and dairy

2 months ago. "

Will has only been SCD for 4 weeks and he has seen lots of changes

these last 2 months. His body may still be adjusting to the new foods

and the supplementation after such a short time. The speech issues

seem to have been present a long time. Speech in some kids with

autism is something that needs constant attention, focus and

excercise. I assume you know all about it.

I wish I could give you a clue, but I can only tell you that my son

started asking questions (aka hitting an important milestone) after 4

months on SCD. He is 7 now, he was 6 at that time.

In a way I can relate, because when we started scd, I more or less

expected instant miracles. These do not happen, we 'only' see small

miracles. Still, without the right food, my son would never have made

the gains he did.

Give it time.

About the yoghurt, you need to elaborate a bit about his

sensitivities.

After about 3 months of 100% compliancy of SCD you can - very

cautiously - try the 24h goat's yoghurt.

A detailed description on how to make either goat's or nut yoghurt

can be found on www.pecanbread.com.

Marjan

Netherlands

Mom to Nick, asd, 7, SCD since jan 18 2003

, 9

Finn, 4

http://specificfoodsforspecificminds.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

> I wish I could give you a clue, but I can only tell you that my

son

> started asking questions (aka hitting an important milestone)

after 4

> months on SCD. He is 7 now, he was 6 at that time.

> In a way I can relate, because when we started scd, I more or less

> expected instant miracles. These do not happen, we 'only' see

small

> miracles.

Thanks, you're so right, it is a slow process but it's encouraging

to hear that developmental gains can still be made by staying the

nutruitional course.

> About the yoghurt, you need to elaborate a bit about his

> sensitivities.

> After about 3 months of 100% compliancy of SCD you can - very

> cautiously - try the 24h goat's yoghurt.

> A detailed description on how to make either goat's or nut yoghurt

> can be found on www.pecanbread.com.

Oops! I'm still having a hard time on the timing issue. I gave him

about 1 TBS of goat's yogurt last week and it didn't cause D (at the

start of the diet he instantly went from small hard pebbles to soft

formed BM's with just an occaisional unformed one when he eats too

many nut muffins) so I gave him another TBS earlier this week.

I was also successful with your nut yogurt recipe yesterday and gave

him 1 TBS of that this morning. Do you think I should back off of

all yogurt for a while?

AMK - mom to Will, 3.5yo, PDDNOS, and - just accepted into the

gifted program for 3rd grade! (Boy, the " spectrum " in our house!)

[Guest guest]

> I wish I could give you a clue, but I can only tell you that my

son

> started asking questions (aka hitting an important milestone)

after 4

> months on SCD. He is 7 now, he was 6 at that time.

> In a way I can relate, because when we started scd, I more or less

> expected instant miracles. These do not happen, we 'only' see

small

> miracles.

Thanks, you're so right, it is a slow process but it's encouraging

to hear that developmental gains can still be made by staying the

nutruitional course.

> About the yoghurt, you need to elaborate a bit about his

> sensitivities.

> After about 3 months of 100% compliancy of SCD you can - very

> cautiously - try the 24h goat's yoghurt.

> A detailed description on how to make either goat's or nut yoghurt

> can be found on www.pecanbread.com.

Oops! I'm still having a hard time on the timing issue. I gave him

about 1 TBS of goat's yogurt last week and it didn't cause D (at the

start of the diet he instantly went from small hard pebbles to soft

formed BM's with just an occaisional unformed one when he eats too

many nut muffins) so I gave him another TBS earlier this week.

I was also successful with your nut yogurt recipe yesterday and gave

him 1 TBS of that this morning. Do you think I should back off of

all yogurt for a while?

AMK - mom to Will, 3.5yo, PDDNOS, and - just accepted into the

gifted program for 3rd grade! (Boy, the " spectrum " in our house!)

[Guest guest]

" Do you think I should back off of

all yogurt for a while? "

No, if you see positive signs, do go on. Looks like you treat the

yoghurt very cautiously anyway. BUT how long have you been doing scd?

Marjan

[Guest guest]

When you've got a good handle on the SCD, I'd do mercury chelation. Of all

the therapies we did, and we did MANY, I think one of the biggest

contributing therapies was chelation therapy. We did it 3 or 4 years ago,

before the SCD information came out. It was amazing. His language improved

with every dose of chelation, and especially improved on challenge weekends.

They said at the most recent DAN that we should chelate again after doing

the SCD for a while.

Mini Speech Regressions

> Does anyone else see mini-speech regressions as a common phenomenon

> in their child? This used to be a major problem with my son until

> we started cod liver oil but it still doesn't seem to have gone away.

> At the worst, he would learn a new sound and lose all others at the

> same time, then lose the new one and the old would return. Now it's

> more subtle - he will continue make strides (sounding out words as

> you read to him) while at the same time refusing to use speech

> (where he had just a few days before) for communication and instead

> reverting to PECs, signs or gestures.

> I'm very puzzled and trying to piece together what combination of

> supplements / therapies might address this. I almost think it is a

> part of his developmental pattern that is weakened by some

> nutritional issue because the cod liver oil helped so much at one

> point - but I'm at a loss as to how to try to further strengthen his

> growth. The introduction of SCD has actually made this process more

> visible again. He just finished a course of Nystatin for yeast and

> we are waiting on the results, he's on probiotics and just started

> up with Super Nu Thera - so on the face of it his nutritional intake

> should be much improved from when he was just eating wheat and dairy

> 2 months ago. I'm puzzled!?!

> AMK - mom to Will, 3 yo, PDDNOS, SCD 4 weeks

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

When you've got a good handle on the SCD, I'd do mercury chelation. Of all

the therapies we did, and we did MANY, I think one of the biggest

contributing therapies was chelation therapy. We did it 3 or 4 years ago,

before the SCD information came out. It was amazing. His language improved

with every dose of chelation, and especially improved on challenge weekends.

They said at the most recent DAN that we should chelate again after doing

the SCD for a while.

Mini Speech Regressions

> Does anyone else see mini-speech regressions as a common phenomenon

> in their child? This used to be a major problem with my son until

> we started cod liver oil but it still doesn't seem to have gone away.

> At the worst, he would learn a new sound and lose all others at the

> same time, then lose the new one and the old would return. Now it's

> more subtle - he will continue make strides (sounding out words as

> you read to him) while at the same time refusing to use speech

> (where he had just a few days before) for communication and instead

> reverting to PECs, signs or gestures.

> I'm very puzzled and trying to piece together what combination of

> supplements / therapies might address this. I almost think it is a

> part of his developmental pattern that is weakened by some

> nutritional issue because the cod liver oil helped so much at one

> point - but I'm at a loss as to how to try to further strengthen his

> growth. The introduction of SCD has actually made this process more

> visible again. He just finished a course of Nystatin for yeast and

> we are waiting on the results, he's on probiotics and just started

> up with Super Nu Thera - so on the face of it his nutritional intake

> should be much improved from when he was just eating wheat and dairy

> 2 months ago. I'm puzzled!?!

> AMK - mom to Will, 3 yo, PDDNOS, SCD 4 weeks

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I got my answer yesterday afternoon about the nut yogurt - big

time D! So either it was the yogurt or drinking from the kiddie

pool in the backyard (impossible to stop him - he thinks he's

blowing bubbles!). I'll wait another month and try again.

AMK - SCD 4.5 weeks

> " Do you think I should back off of

> all yogurt for a while? "

>

> No, if you see positive signs, do go on. Looks like you treat the

> yoghurt very cautiously anyway. BUT how long have you been doing

scd?

>

> Marjan

[Guest guest]

Well, I got my answer yesterday afternoon about the nut yogurt - big

time D! So either it was the yogurt or drinking from the kiddie

pool in the backyard (impossible to stop him - he thinks he's

blowing bubbles!). I'll wait another month and try again.

AMK - SCD 4.5 weeks

> " Do you think I should back off of

> all yogurt for a while? "

>

> No, if you see positive signs, do go on. Looks like you treat the

> yoghurt very cautiously anyway. BUT how long have you been doing

scd?

>

> Marjan

[Guest guest]

> Well, I got my answer yesterday afternoon about the nut yogurt -

big

> time D! So either it was the yogurt or drinking from the kiddie

> pool in the backyard (impossible to stop him - he thinks he's

> blowing bubbles!). I'll wait another month and try again.

> AMK - SCD 4.5 weeks

Just another possibility... Explosive D after the yogurt could be

some major die-off - not neccessarily a bad thing. How much did he

eat? How is he today? Are you seeing any kind of improvement in

behavior, awareness, speech, hyperactivity, etc.?

If this is a possibility, you might want to just try a much smaller

amount (1/4 teaspoon if that isn't what you already gave him) and

see if you can get the die-off to move more slowly, but still

forward. If you think that's it, you could give activated charcoal

to help with the die-off and/or epsom salt baths.

I don't know, for me, I do like to see die-off, but not so big that

it really is painful or horrible. That's why we do the yogurt so

gradually.

Of course, I could be totally off-track...

Take care,

son - 5yo ASD, SCD 14 months