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Dear Pat:

First, let me say congratulations. Second, let me say, WAIT FOR ME!!!! I was

hoping us two lone Okies could get a quantity discount on port holes by

traveling

together, but you have sped past me like the roadrunner. Beep-beep. I, Wylie

Coyote, am spinning in circles in the road so far. I am, of course, thrilled

for

you and by the way everything came together for you, there should be no doubt

that

it was meant to be. The good part is you will be able to give me the " ins and

outs " of traveling across the country for this thing - the only down-side that I

can see so far.

Best wishes and keep me posted. PS: Obviously, I finally got on Onelist.

Vicki Marton

Stillwater, Oklahoma

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>

> Bonnie, that is great!!!! Can't wait till I'll be reporting weight loss too.

> Only three weeks away and I'll join you on the other side :)

>

> Keep us posted!

>

> Pat Culp

> Oklahoma City

> SD - May 24

> 270 - BMI 45

>

> >

> >Reply-To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

> >To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

> >Subject: Re: Unusual question

> >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:04:09 -0400

> >

> >

> >

> >-

> >Let me know if you find a cure.... I did, as someone suggested, check

> >my sugar levels (I had gestational diabetes while pregnant and have a

> >blood tester here) and they were really great- even on the low side.

> >So- I think it is just from those antibiotics......

> >

> >On a good note- today is my 1 month aniversary and I have lost a grand

> >total of 31 pounds!!!!

> >

> >Bonnie

> >

> >--

> >Bonnie

> >mom to Josie and Marielle

> >TCS Awareness Page http://www.mindspring.com/~borchert/tcs.htm

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Dear Pat:

First, let me say congratulations. Second, let me say, WAIT FOR ME!!!! I was

hoping us two lone Okies could get a quantity discount on port holes by

traveling

together, but you have sped past me like the roadrunner. Beep-beep. I, Wylie

Coyote, am spinning in circles in the road so far. I am, of course, thrilled

for

you and by the way everything came together for you, there should be no doubt

that

it was meant to be. The good part is you will be able to give me the " ins and

outs " of traveling across the country for this thing - the only down-side that I

can see so far.

Best wishes and keep me posted. PS: Obviously, I finally got on Onelist.

Vicki Marton

Stillwater, Oklahoma

Pat Culp wrote:

>

>

> Bonnie, that is great!!!! Can't wait till I'll be reporting weight loss too.

> Only three weeks away and I'll join you on the other side :)

>

> Keep us posted!

>

> Pat Culp

> Oklahoma City

> SD - May 24

> 270 - BMI 45

>

> >

> >Reply-To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

> >To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

> >Subject: Re: Unusual question

> >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:04:09 -0400

> >

> >

> >

> >-

> >Let me know if you find a cure.... I did, as someone suggested, check

> >my sugar levels (I had gestational diabetes while pregnant and have a

> >blood tester here) and they were really great- even on the low side.

> >So- I think it is just from those antibiotics......

> >

> >On a good note- today is my 1 month aniversary and I have lost a grand

> >total of 31 pounds!!!!

> >

> >Bonnie

> >

> >--

> >Bonnie

> >mom to Josie and Marielle

> >TCS Awareness Page http://www.mindspring.com/~borchert/tcs.htm

> >Lipomylomeningocele Family Support Group

> >http://www.mindspring.com/~borchert/index.htm

> >******

> > " Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can

> >change

> >the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. "

> >- Margaret Mead

> >

> >

> >

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Yes, really! Plain, regular yogurt. I know it sounds goofy, but it

actually does help with mild cases. But, take heart, actually eating the

yogurt can help a lot too. Have you ever heard of people who get sick on

their stomach after taking antibiotics? Same reason. The good bacteria in

your stomach gets squashed by the antibiotic and the yeast has a field day.

You can also buy straight acidophilus from the nutrition store to help

regain balance. If you're trying a natural route, avoid sugar like the

plague, it feeds the yeast, and chow down on yogurt. But if it's a really

stubborn case (like it usually is!), only the good stuff will do...maybe

only a prescription cream, even. Most GYNs will give a regular patient a

script over the phone. I don't know which is worse...a yeast infection or a

bladder infection??? Both spell " ewwwwwwww " in my book!

Lydia Modert

27 yo/wife to Izzy/mother to /sister to Marie

pre-op w/Humana PPO/awaiting approval

BMI 49

Cary NC

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Yes, really! Plain, regular yogurt. I know it sounds goofy, but it

actually does help with mild cases. But, take heart, actually eating the

yogurt can help a lot too. Have you ever heard of people who get sick on

their stomach after taking antibiotics? Same reason. The good bacteria in

your stomach gets squashed by the antibiotic and the yeast has a field day.

You can also buy straight acidophilus from the nutrition store to help

regain balance. If you're trying a natural route, avoid sugar like the

plague, it feeds the yeast, and chow down on yogurt. But if it's a really

stubborn case (like it usually is!), only the good stuff will do...maybe

only a prescription cream, even. Most GYNs will give a regular patient a

script over the phone. I don't know which is worse...a yeast infection or a

bladder infection??? Both spell " ewwwwwwww " in my book!

Lydia Modert

27 yo/wife to Izzy/mother to /sister to Marie

pre-op w/Humana PPO/awaiting approval

BMI 49

Cary NC

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Wow the chair thing really hit home for me. Several of my friends have

pools. I am afraid to sit on their patio furniture!! (Let alone show up in

a bathing suit) Just wait until next summer (or hopefully by end of this

summer)!! I went to the Greater Greensboro Chrysler Classic last week. We

know a lot of people and had hospitality tent passes. Most of the tents had

those little plastic chairs. I stood for hours with swollen feet!!!! I was

afraid that the chair and I would stand up together. How embarrassing. As

tired as I was, I stood. Do you know how many excuses one person can make

for not sitting down.

Well, thought I'd add a comment to this great group of people. I have

submitted my patient info to Dr. R. He has submitted it to my ins. co. I

have a referral waiting at my PCP's office. I will pick it up on Monday and

make my first Sat. appointment with Dr. R. for the following Sat.

I hope I am approved very soon!!

Debra Hertlein--married 16 1/2 years 2 boys ages 12 and 15

Greensboro NC

330 pre-op

Waiting for approval

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Wow. Pam What a story. My emergency room stor isn't quite so special.

When I was younger and thinner(about 190)ages ago,i feel out the

garage(yes this is possible)I twisted my ankle and it immedialtely

turned blue. I was unmarried,but had a roomate who was still at work.

No one in my neighborhood was home so I crawled into the house and

called my friend to take me to the emergency room.

When I got to the emergeny room,unable to put any pressure on the

leg,the attendant wanted me to " jump " up onto the xray table that was at

least 5 feet off the ground. I asked for help but he said no,If he

dropped me he'd be in trouble and lose his job. So I tried to jump.

My first attempt at jumping moed the table(on wheel and I ended up on

the floor with the xray table on top of me.

He had no problem helping me on my second attempt.

I could here him grumbling about fat people in the hall to the Doctor

befor he came in the room.Just another story of humility.

Amy

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Wow. Pam What a story. My emergency room stor isn't quite so special.

When I was younger and thinner(about 190)ages ago,i feel out the

garage(yes this is possible)I twisted my ankle and it immedialtely

turned blue. I was unmarried,but had a roomate who was still at work.

No one in my neighborhood was home so I crawled into the house and

called my friend to take me to the emergency room.

When I got to the emergeny room,unable to put any pressure on the

leg,the attendant wanted me to " jump " up onto the xray table that was at

least 5 feet off the ground. I asked for help but he said no,If he

dropped me he'd be in trouble and lose his job. So I tried to jump.

My first attempt at jumping moed the table(on wheel and I ended up on

the floor with the xray table on top of me.

He had no problem helping me on my second attempt.

I could here him grumbling about fat people in the hall to the Doctor

befor he came in the room.Just another story of humility.

Amy

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Hi,

I have added a new section to the web page on " Candidiasis " The yeast that

causes the Thrush (bad taste, white patches on the tongue) and the vaginal

yeast infections.

Although these usually clear there are some good treatments for them if they

are bothersome to you.

Check out the web page at http://clos.net/candidiasis.htm

Call if you would like a prescription to treat either the Thrush or the

vaginal yeast infection.

The text of the web page is at the end of this message.

P.S. I am thinking of adding a prescription for Nystatin (Cheap) or

Fluconazole (Convenient) to the Discharge medicines and telling people not

to fill it unless it is needed. Any thoughts?

RR

Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S.

The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery

4301 Ben lin Blvd.

P. O. Box 15698

Durham, North Carolina 27704

Telephone #:

Fax #:

E mail: Dr_Rutledge@... (Note:

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Durham Regional Hospital #:

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>

> From: CmacyM@...

>

> Bonnie!

> Today has been just a complete revelation for me! I too got and

> still have a

> yeast infection from the antibiotics! I seriously thought I was

> the only one

> and wasn't about to say a word about it. Thank you for letting

> me know I'm

> not alone! I'm sure there are others out there that can benefit

> from knowing

> this too!

>

>

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Hi,

I have added a new section to the web page on " Candidiasis " The yeast that

causes the Thrush (bad taste, white patches on the tongue) and the vaginal

yeast infections.

Although these usually clear there are some good treatments for them if they

are bothersome to you.

Check out the web page at http://clos.net/candidiasis.htm

Call if you would like a prescription to treat either the Thrush or the

vaginal yeast infection.

The text of the web page is at the end of this message.

P.S. I am thinking of adding a prescription for Nystatin (Cheap) or

Fluconazole (Convenient) to the Discharge medicines and telling people not

to fill it unless it is needed. Any thoughts?

RR

Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S.

The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery

4301 Ben lin Blvd.

P. O. Box 15698

Durham, North Carolina 27704

Telephone #:

Fax #:

E mail: Dr_Rutledge@... (Note:

There is an “_” between the Dr and Rutledge:)

Web site: http://clos.net

Durham Regional Hospital #:

Also, Please consider joining the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List

at http://www.onelist.com

We have created a mailing list for people interested in the Mini-Gastric

Bypass.

It is hosted by " Onelist.com " in the Health Category.

Talk with lots of other pre and post op patients and friends.

Automatically keep up to date on the latest news.

> Re: Unusual question

>

>

> From: CmacyM@...

>

> Bonnie!

> Today has been just a complete revelation for me! I too got and

> still have a

> yeast infection from the antibiotics! I seriously thought I was

> the only one

> and wasn't about to say a word about it. Thank you for letting

> me know I'm

> not alone! I'm sure there are others out there that can benefit

> from knowing

> this too!

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Did you know that you can now set up a shared calendar to

> post events of interest to your community?

> http://www.onelist.com

> Check out our homepage for details.

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Hi,

I have added a new section to the web page on " Candidiasis " The yeast that

causes the Thrush (bad taste, white patches on the tongue) and the vaginal

yeast infections.

Although these usually clear there are some good treatments for them if they

are bothersome to you.

Check out the web page at http://clos.net/candidiasis.htm

Call if you would like a prescription to treat either the Thrush or the

vaginal yeast infection.

The text of the web page is at the end of this message.

P.S. I am thinking of adding a prescription for Nystatin (Cheap) or

Fluconazole (Convenient) to the Discharge medicines and telling people not

to fill it unless it is needed. Any thoughts?

RR

Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S.

The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery

4301 Ben lin Blvd.

P. O. Box 15698

Durham, North Carolina 27704

Telephone #:

Fax #:

E mail: Dr_Rutledge@... (Note:

There is an “_” between the Dr and Rutledge:)

Web site: http://clos.net

Durham Regional Hospital #:

Also, Please consider joining the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List

at http://www.onelist.com

We have created a mailing list for people interested in the Mini-Gastric

Bypass.

It is hosted by " Onelist.com " in the Health Category.

Talk with lots of other pre and post op patients and friends.

Automatically keep up to date on the latest news.

> Re: Unusual question

>

>

> From: CmacyM@...

>

> Bonnie!

> Today has been just a complete revelation for me! I too got and

> still have a

> yeast infection from the antibiotics! I seriously thought I was

> the only one

> and wasn't about to say a word about it. Thank you for letting

> me know I'm

> not alone! I'm sure there are others out there that can benefit

> from knowing

> this too!

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Did you know that you can now set up a shared calendar to

> post events of interest to your community?

> http://www.onelist.com

> Check out our homepage for details.

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Dr R

I think this would be a great idea. Most women at our age know when

these things are necessary and could fill the prescriptions ONLY IF they

need them. good idea and thanks for the web page info. I had heard

soooo much about the infection problem that yeast medicine was one of

the supplies I bought for the surgery (slong with vitamins, pill

crusher, etc...)

Kathy

Kaiser Permanente appealing again

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Dr R

I think this would be a great idea. Most women at our age know when

these things are necessary and could fill the prescriptions ONLY IF they

need them. good idea and thanks for the web page info. I had heard

soooo much about the infection problem that yeast medicine was one of

the supplies I bought for the surgery (slong with vitamins, pill

crusher, etc...)

Kathy

Kaiser Permanente appealing again

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Dr R

I think this would be a great idea. Most women at our age know when

these things are necessary and could fill the prescriptions ONLY IF they

need them. good idea and thanks for the web page info. I had heard

soooo much about the infection problem that yeast medicine was one of

the supplies I bought for the surgery (slong with vitamins, pill

crusher, etc...)

Kathy

Kaiser Permanente appealing again

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Kathy A

" small " demonstration of the emotions we feel due to our weight might

be in order for those insurance weenies. I am very wide and if not

careful of my choice of chairs to sit in, when I stand up so does the

chair. The embarassment is all the more if the room is full of people

looking at you. If this could happen at your meeting they might see how

we feel (or who knows one may even be gallant enough to pull the chair

off!). Diane in FL

BMI 48 3 dogs; 5

birds; 1 cat; CIGNA insurance

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Diane

you are soooo cute!!! My best friend (who is also obese) has a knack

for getting up with the chair attached!!! I don't usually chance it - I

will not sit anywhere that isn't big enough for 2 people - even if my

legs are exhausted. That is the reason I don't like to go to other

people's homes or ride in other people's cars - I am afraid I will break

their furniture......sooooooo depressing.

As a side note, have you guys read the book " DIARY OF A FAT HOUSEWIFE " ??

I am not sure if this is the exact name and I forget the authors' name

but it is a great book about the things we go through that normal size

people don't have to .....

Kathy

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Dr. R.,

I think the addition of the RX for the yeast tx would be a good thing. I was

just about to give up on mine resolving and give you a call. But, I decided

to give it a couple more days, and it was finally gone.

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Paam

When I was diagnosed with CHF by a cardiologist whose office was next

door to the hospital, they were going to wheel me over. WELLLLL

needless to say , the wheelchair could not bear my weight and the nurse

was no where near strong enough to push = soooo I had to walk about 2

blocks from the office to the hospital (keep in mind , that with CHF you

can't breathe!!!!!!) I was exhausted! and felt subhuman....overweight

people are the only group where their discrimination is condidered

politically correct.

Kathy

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Paam

When I was diagnosed with CHF by a cardiologist whose office was next

door to the hospital, they were going to wheel me over. WELLLLL

needless to say , the wheelchair could not bear my weight and the nurse

was no where near strong enough to push = soooo I had to walk about 2

blocks from the office to the hospital (keep in mind , that with CHF you

can't breathe!!!!!!) I was exhausted! and felt subhuman....overweight

people are the only group where their discrimination is condidered

politically correct.

Kathy

Kaiser Permanente appealing again

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Paam

When I was diagnosed with CHF by a cardiologist whose office was next

door to the hospital, they were going to wheel me over. WELLLLL

needless to say , the wheelchair could not bear my weight and the nurse

was no where near strong enough to push = soooo I had to walk about 2

blocks from the office to the hospital (keep in mind , that with CHF you

can't breathe!!!!!!) I was exhausted! and felt subhuman....overweight

people are the only group where their discrimination is condidered

politically correct.

Kathy

Kaiser Permanente appealing again

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Dr. Rutledge,

I think it would be a very good idea to add those meds to the current

discharge list. It would be much easier to have them readily available in

the event one should get either one of these wonderful things post-op! :)

My two cents,

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Dr. Rutledge,

I think it would be a very good idea to add those meds to the current

discharge list. It would be much easier to have them readily available in

the event one should get either one of these wonderful things post-op! :)

My two cents,

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I too get to have my ambulance story! I was a senior in high school and

probably weighed at least 200 lbs (maybe 225). Every year my HS had a craft

show and every year my step-mother ran it. So, inevitably I had to work it

every year. This particular year I was out helping one of the crafters bring

their stuff in and I toppled down three cement stairs. Keep this part in

mind...I lived in Chicago then, it was November, and I was laying on cement.

Hello! Can we say freezing our buns off...literally! My Dad, a fireman

trained in this area, left me laying there, but was nice enough to cover me

up so I wouldn't get too cold. About 10 minutes later (what seemed like

forever) he and one of the other guys helped me up and into the cafeteria to

sit on two folding chairs to wait for the ambulance. The ambulance didn't

come. An entire fire truck did! So I had five guys, three of which knew my

dad and had worked with him, standing around watching me. There was NOTHING

they could do without the ambulance. When it finally showed up it was two of

the most gorgeous paramedics I had ever seen! Hey! I was 18 of course I

noticed that! At any rate, I was excited that I got to ride with lights and

sirens to the hospital, but here's where the crappy part comes in. Once we

arrived at the hospital they were getting me out of the ambulance and the guy

by my head said something silly trying to make me more comfortable, but the

guy by my feet didn't follow suit. He came back with the comment, " Hey! At

least you're not on the bottom! " Meaning he was on the heavier end because

he had to hold all my weight while his partner got out. I was almost in

tears! That's not something an 18 year old wants to hear! That's not

something anyone wants to hear! I should've kicked him, but my

foot/ankle/leg already hurt TOO bad! It wasn't a happy moment, but looking

at some other stories it wasn't as bad as I made it seem. Life goes on! I'd

do anything to see that mean paramedic in six months! He wont know what hit

him!

3/25/99 -- 292 lbs

4/27/99 -- 254 lbs

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I too get to have my ambulance story! I was a senior in high school and

probably weighed at least 200 lbs (maybe 225). Every year my HS had a craft

show and every year my step-mother ran it. So, inevitably I had to work it

every year. This particular year I was out helping one of the crafters bring

their stuff in and I toppled down three cement stairs. Keep this part in

mind...I lived in Chicago then, it was November, and I was laying on cement.

Hello! Can we say freezing our buns off...literally! My Dad, a fireman

trained in this area, left me laying there, but was nice enough to cover me

up so I wouldn't get too cold. About 10 minutes later (what seemed like

forever) he and one of the other guys helped me up and into the cafeteria to

sit on two folding chairs to wait for the ambulance. The ambulance didn't

come. An entire fire truck did! So I had five guys, three of which knew my

dad and had worked with him, standing around watching me. There was NOTHING

they could do without the ambulance. When it finally showed up it was two of

the most gorgeous paramedics I had ever seen! Hey! I was 18 of course I

noticed that! At any rate, I was excited that I got to ride with lights and

sirens to the hospital, but here's where the crappy part comes in. Once we

arrived at the hospital they were getting me out of the ambulance and the guy

by my head said something silly trying to make me more comfortable, but the

guy by my feet didn't follow suit. He came back with the comment, " Hey! At

least you're not on the bottom! " Meaning he was on the heavier end because

he had to hold all my weight while his partner got out. I was almost in

tears! That's not something an 18 year old wants to hear! That's not

something anyone wants to hear! I should've kicked him, but my

foot/ankle/leg already hurt TOO bad! It wasn't a happy moment, but looking

at some other stories it wasn't as bad as I made it seem. Life goes on! I'd

do anything to see that mean paramedic in six months! He wont know what hit

him!

3/25/99 -- 292 lbs

4/27/99 -- 254 lbs

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